Latest on MJJC

Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Anna said:
Giving clicks to these articles is crucial. Making them popular is why we are seeing the media continuing to report on the lies. And by making these articles popular more people are being exposed to the facts.
Click to expand...

Sorry but I prefer to share and support untwisted pure factual youtube videos from people who really care about to find out and spread the truth since the sunfance airing before any tabloid articles.

Big Apple NYC said:
YEP!!!!

Greedy Reed is trying to put out ALL of the fires, the Liars have created, but Greedy Reed has run out of hands. LOL.

The Master Of Deception and Greedy are probably on the phone, mad as hell, ready to throw James Under The Bus!!!

"OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE, WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE!!!!!!!!"
Click to expand...

It turnes out that the expension of James complaint to tell new Neverland abuse storys outside from MJs bedroom were reeds or wades bad idea which did now take its revange.

Big Apple NYC said:
I'm not sure about that, in my opinion, Dan Reed would throw BOTH OF THEM under the bus, in order to "save" his crappy reputation.

Reed: They lied to me!!!!!
Click to expand...

All three are hieredand paied from some powerful (us-)mogules for this remittance work and are forced to stay this and not to crack.
 
Last edited:
Why the Estate didn't plan a press conference ?
It's time no ?
 
terrell said:
Don't this fool know that Wade Mother was caught in lies a few weeks ago?
Click to expand...

I think there are just too many lies for them to keep track off.

Typical of the media not reporting all these inaccuracies, most people probably aren't even aware of it.
 
1nn5 said:
Why the Estate didn't plan a press conference ?
It's time no ?
Click to expand...

Time will tell. I think it would nice to see Paris post it, even about James mother lying about dancing when MJ died 2009 yet James claim he did not know about abuse until 201,on her twitter since the media eat up anything she post.
 
I really believe most people that have not spoken yet is intentional... They may speak publically as the trian picks up steam and they are ready to rebuttle.. commenting pre maturally only gets people forgetting to 'stay tuned' if something else is not fallowed up by it..

Announce, release product/statment , fallow up... home run

Like a steamroller! pick up traction and go...
 
KOPV;4253084 said:
Dan's defense of these things are just makes him easier to dismiss.. people are not going to buy his fake idea of simply mistaking the year.. It speaks against the entire narrative. If you want to accept he was just 'wrong' with the timeframe than you have to rethink the entire story line.. It does not stand with credibility.
Click to expand...
Thank you.
Adding more years just literally ruined the narrative of Michael only liking young boys.
Also with adding more years he just ruined his timeline even more because Michael has an alibi and accidentally confirmed that the whole thing was a lie and may have possibly ruined James’s chance at an appeal.
All Dan had to do was just be quiet, but he thought he was on top of the world and just crashed his little movie.
Now Piers is on it and I can now see it spreading.
All we need is for the US media to pick up on it and the fans to spread it and it’s the small beginning to end.
 
What ever happened to Randy Taraborrelli. Didn't he do a couple of biographies on MJ in the past and covered the 2005 trial. I would have expected him to say something about LN.
 
ksat9;4253146 said:
Thank you.
Adding more years just literally ruined the narrative of Michael only liking young boys.
Also with adding more years he just ruined his timeline even more because Michael has an alibi and accidentally confirmed that the whole thing was a lie and may have possibly ruined James’s chance at an appeal.
All Dan had to do was just be quiet, but he thought he was on top of the world and just crashed his little movie.
Now Piers is on it and I can now see it spreading.
All we need is for the US media to pick up on it and the fans to spread it and it’s the small beginning to end.
Click to expand...

There are no need to hurry up with anything. Lets focus to debunk the movie more and more cause there are still muuuuch work to do to clearly vidicate MJ from this horrible accusations.
I would not cound on the us for help.
They did the most promotion for LN and are most involved in this conspiricy.
They will never turn on Oprah and others.
 
Last edited:
I am trying to time stamp where Michael was in Feb. 1989, Michael received award Feb. 13th at the British Record Industry Awards and accepted in via satellite.. I am wondering if their is any actual footage so we can tell if possibly this was filmed at Neverland..

Right now between Feb 7th - March 5th (1989) there are things he did in the Los Angeles area with no record of him being in NY around the grammys in the later portion of February.

Feb. 7th: Visitied Clevland Elementary School in Stockton CA
Feb 13th: Received awards via satellite (8th Britnish Record Industry Awards) - location of acceptance unknown
March 5th: Takes 200 children to Circus Vargas in Santa Barbara CA
March 11th: Receives an award at the Black Radio Exclusive Humanitarian Awards in Universal City, CA

Every recorded move Michael made within that time was in CA... The Grammy's were on Feb 22nd!


ALSO: How sure are we that it was James in that Zales footage? Because Police stated Michael was with a 12 year old boy, James would have been 11. ​
 
Last edited:
You guys saw the teaser of the upcoming doc by Lavelle Smith Jr right? Man behind the dance I believe it's called. I'm wondering if we could look forward to see rare footage perhaps? It be nice to get new footage from a actual normal source this time around.
 
Louis really is a total ****ing dickhead isn't he? His tweet to John Ziegler

"
I just read your article. There is nothing in it that sheds any light on the MJ case or does anything to undermine the idea that he was a paedophile."
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Louis really is a total ****ing dickhead isn't he? His tweet to John Ziegler

"
I just read your article. There is nothing in it that sheds any light on the MJ case or does anything to undermine the idea that he was a paedophile."
Click to expand...

Yeah.... but why it didn't undermine the idea for him that these two accusers are greedy liars?

It is not possible to proove a neagtive.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
You guys saw the teaser of the upcoming doc by Lavelle Smith Jr right? Man behind the dance I believe it's called. I'm wondering if we could look forward to see rare footage perhaps? It be nice to get new footage from a actual normal source this time around.
Click to expand...

Lavelle made it ?
I thought it's a fanmade.
 
Last edited:
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Louis really is a total ****ing dickhead isn't he? His tweet to John Ziegler

"
I just read your article. There is nothing in it that sheds any light on the MJ case or does anything to undermine the idea that he was a paedophile."
Click to expand...
People are grilling him about it though:

I just read your tweet. There is nothing in it that sheds any light on your credibility as a journalist but it does undermine the idea that you're intelligent.

That's funny cause it just so happens that there is nothing in the documentary that shows any evidence or does anything to undermine the fact that he was innocent.

So now we are labeling people based on an "idea" and not based on evidence? Do you realize who has the burden of proof? Not @Zigmanfreud or those who think MJ is innocent.

You are asking to prove a negative...and disprove an IDEA of someone.

BTW isn't his timing suspicious or am I being paranoid?
 
I really love this interview of Brandy Jackson. It is my favorite interview from her so far!
But with this very good supportive Anslysis of Giovanny M. who did very good body language analysis of MJ and the accusers it gets even better:


 
ozemouze said:
People are grilling him about it though:

I just read your tweet. There is nothing in it that sheds any light on your credibility as a journalist but it does undermine the idea that you're intelligent.

That's funny cause it just so happens that there is nothing in the documentary that shows any evidence or does anything to undermine the fact that he was innocent.

So now we are labeling people based on an "idea" and not based on evidence? Do you realize who has the burden of proof? Not @Zigmanfreud or those who think MJ is innocent.

You are asking to prove a negative...and disprove an IDEA of someone.

BTW isn't his timing suspicious or am I being paranoid?
Click to expand...

Louis's timing sure is suspicious yeah. It seems like he wants this negative stream to keep going, especially now that bad news for Reed is coming out.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Niiiice! Yeah I haven't been on any of the sub areas in MJJC, except in this thread. :)

I definitely think there's a good chance he will have unique footage in that.
Click to expand...

The thread is in this section, you just have to scroll down a bit. There was a different trailer originally on the website and it mentioned all the footage they used was from YouTube.
 
Greed liked his tweet but quickly unliked it. They have orders to promote paedophilia.
 
P.S. I just left a Dunkin Donut in Newark, New Jersey AND THEY ARE BLASTING MICHAEL JACKSON MUSIC!!!!! That definitely put a big ole smile on my face. Mute Who???

Okay, back to the topic at hand.
 
Just read Ziegler's answer to Piers Morgan's question ("Hmmmm. What other facts did you get wrong @danreed1000?")
To answer your excellent question, Piers... lots and lots.

In fact, too much to possibly fit in a tweet. It is pathetic that, at least over here, the news media, thanks mostly to fear of Oprah, simply will not revisit this clearly fraudulent movie.
Click to expand...
I'm from Europe so I never get this whole "Oprah phenomenon" (I first saw her in The Color Purple, where she was great BTW, and then in her interview with MJ where I found her to be fake and sort of unconcerned, so she didn't give me a good impression at all, and that's it), but is she really that influential?
 
Are we sure that all the other rooms in the guest units where James newly claim in LN he was abused all really were built til the end of 1992?
Who is a true spring to ask this?
 
Probably not suspicious, but does anyone else find it weird how the simpsons creators publicly attack MJ and remove his episode from airing just before Disney buys them out as part of the FOX deal? Probably just a coincidence but I cant help but find that strange.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
Probably not suspicious, but does anyone else find it weird how the simpsons creators publicly attack MJ and remove his episode from airing just before Disney buys them out as part of the FOX deal? Probably just a coincidence but I cant help but find that strange.
Click to expand...

Oh .... do you think Disney where MJ has a special favor for and were always supportive to MJ will bring the episode back as soon as possible after they have bought fox?
 
Update on the 2 Document...

I am 95% completed, I am currently collecting the source links and so on.. Currently I have:


1. "Wade & James Files" which goes over the details in the documentary and court, calling out the lies and inconsistencies.
2. "Accounts and Narratives" which goes into detail various stories and narratives that are irrational, does not make sense, and discussing the parallels between James story and Victor G.s book..

My question is to you, should I create I combined it all in one 10 page Doc (excluding sources pages)? Or have them separate! I am also considering a 'Title Page' if I combine both with a joint title that both docs will be a part of..

thoughts/opinions?
 
KOPV said:
Update on the 2 Document...

I am 95% completed, I am currently collecting the source links and so on.. Currently I have:


1. "Wade & James Files" which goes over the details in the documentary and court, calling out the lies and inconsistencies.
2. "Accounts and Narratives" which goes into detail various stories and narratives that are irrational, does not make sense, and discussing the parallels between James story and Victor G.s book..

My question is to you, should I create I combined it all in one 10 page Doc (excluding sources pages)? Or have them separate! I am also considering a 'Title Page' if I combine both with a joint title that both docs will be a part of..

thoughts/opinions?
Click to expand...
I'll go with the combined one, as they are related, but it could be made into two chapters perhaps. Title page and even table of contents might be a good idea too.

And thanks a lot for your hard work! :flowers:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top