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Best Human Nature live performance?

Who do think there was a Michael White humanly, artistically or in period of the time doesn't know what it says.
MJ has always been an artist based in mainstream sonority from OTW to Invincible (no, I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all) and his collaborators in terms of production were mostly black.
I never heard, for example that other projects of Teddy Riley are "white", then I don't understand why the new jack swing on Dangerous is considered "white" for some solely because of the appearance of MJ.
The same reasoning applies to "BAD", "HIStory", etc.

I really don't see importance, but had to say it that I'm very proud that Michael was "colorblind" as he once said (or supposedly he said). his influences and collaborations were people of all ethnicities, his artistic work is for everyone.
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felipe, I know right now you can not answer, but maybe read it
out it about "showboat" that makes no sense. you admit that MJ was based on hip hop so MJ was based on something created and disseminated mostly by black people so he can become "white"? lol
your statements are contradictory and meaningless. sorry.

you probably dislike the music and presentations post-thriller, you probably think they are weak this I can understand even not agreeing in some cases, but classify them as "white" is ridiculous.
but let's pretend that there was a white Michael (TWYMMF, Liberian Girl, Remember The Time, Who Is it, TDCAU, Superfly Sister, YRMW etc) ...
he would not have done less black music that his white collaborators as Rod Temperton (Rock with you), Glen Ballard (Man In The Mirror) among others or would it be right to say that these songs are not what is called black music because they are made by people with white skin? -_-
 
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Let's try not to dwell on the negative posts that have already been addressed here and get back to discussing the topic.
" Best Human Nature Live performance "
 
It's a hard question for me to answer because Human Nature is one of my all time fav songs and performances by Michael. I also think it was Michael's fav as well. because he put a lot of effort in how he would sing emote the lyrics even changed up the choreography quite a bit to make it very meaningful, like it was personal to him.

I like the Bad performances because I like his original recording of the beginning of the song and the energy he has, when performing it, especially when he does the mime , thats mind blowing. His Dangerous perfomances when he sings live, the beginning always sounds like he is out of breath and cant emote the lyrics. but once he gets past that part I like the way he sings it and the dance and performance is much more refined and so graceful, even erotic. It's almost like he is making love to his audience. It so beautiful, I'm mesmerized when watching him perform it. I even have a YT channel dedicated to it. Ill have to go watch again to see if I can pics a fav. This is a task Ill certainly enjoy.
 
The performances of the Bad Tour 1987 and This Is It, because they are the closest to as sings on the album. ;)
 
TII's Human Nature- it made me fall in love with his voice and artistry with his voice so beautiful and his moves so fiercely graceful... 'nough said really.
 
Something i've always wondered is why does Michael sound so out of breath singing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour? Human Nature was the 3rd song in the setlist and it was the 2nd song to be sung live. So it's not like Michael was singing and dancing to a ton of songs before Human Nature and on the Bad Tour Human Nature was the 9th song on the setlist and Michael was singing and dancing a lot before that and yet Human Nature was sung perfectly on that tour.

Also after Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour Michael's live vocals sound perfect and not out of breath at all. So it makes me wonder if Michael was performing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour with out of breath vocals on purpose.
 
I may have been only the 3rd song, but the first 2 were Jam and Wanna Be Startin Something, two pretty fast relatively long songs heavily reliant on aggressive dancing so of course he would be a bit out of breath.

Human Natures soft dance moves and gentle singing would allow Michael the time to regain his energy for the next song.
 
analogue said:
Something i've always wondered is why does Michael sound so out of breath singing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour? Human Nature was the 3rd song in the setlist and it was the 2nd song to be sung live. So it's not like Michael was singing and dancing to a ton of songs before Human Nature and on the Bad Tour Human Nature was the 9th song on the setlist and Michael was singing and dancing a lot before that and yet Human Nature was sung perfectly on that tour.

Also after Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour Michael's live vocals sound perfect and not out of breath at all. So it makes me wonder if Michael was performing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour with out of breath vocals on purpose.
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Michael doesn't sound that good with headset mic
 
analogue said:
Something i've always wondered is why does Michael sound so out of breath singing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour? Human Nature was the 3rd song in the setlist and it was the 2nd song to be sung live. So it's not like Michael was singing and dancing to a ton of songs before Human Nature and on the Bad Tour Human Nature was the 9th song on the setlist and Michael was singing and dancing a lot before that and yet Human Nature was sung perfectly on that tour.

Also after Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour Michael's live vocals sound perfect and not out of breath at all. So it makes me wonder if Michael was performing Human Nature on the Dangerous Tour with out of breath vocals on purpose.
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This is exactly what i think. I mean just listen to his " Oh whyyy's" Why weren't they outta breath and messy? They were too flawless and the contrast between his voice on the why's and the rest of the song was to stark, to the point that it really sounded as if he was singing the song that way on purpose to maybe give the song a diffrent (edgy?) feeling. That's my two cents.
 
Does anyone like the Tokyo 88' Human Nature? Even if he forgot the lyrics? Michael would never want that released haha but nevertheless vocal wise I like the victory tour. Vocal + dance = Bad Tour (both legs) Dance = Dangerous Tour
 
Overall probably Dangerous tour. In my opinion the best visuals of the song.
 
Dangerous Tour, because his voice was more soothing and mature during that tour then it had ever been.
 
Tel aviv is best one. I hope that the reissue and live dvd :ph34r:
 
Glad this thread got back on topic.

I'm enjoying reading all of your opinions and insights on the performance. I have to agree with all of you.

qbee said:
It's a hard question for me to answer because Human Nature is one of my all time fav songs and performances by Michael. I also think it was Michael's fav as well. because he put a lot of effort in how he would sing emote the lyrics even changed up the choreography quite a bit to make it very meaningful, like it was personal to him.

I like the Bad performances because I like his original recording of the beginning of the song and the energy he has, when performing it, especially when he does the mime , thats mind blowing. His Dangerous perfomances when he sings live, the beginning always sounds like he is out of breath and cant emote the lyrics. but once he gets past that part I like the way he sings it and the dance and performance is much more refined and so graceful, even erotic. It's almost like he is making love to his audience. It so beautiful, I'm mesmerized when watching him perform it. I even have a YT channel dedicated to it. Ill have to go watch again to see if I can pics a fav. This is a task Ill certainly enjoy.
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I completely agree. I'm torn between Bad and Dangerous. I love the dancing bit he does with it and I really enjoy what he does in Dangerous. You couldn't have said it any better: mind blowing. I really feel him actually "becoming" the song, rather than just performing it. That's what I love most about his performance of Human Nature. He IS the song and it's so beautiful. That's why I think it is the perfect performance to show a non-fan. It shows everything there is to love about him.
 
felipemj said:
I can only stand the Victory Tour ones. He did moves that actually fitted the song and sang, instead of whispering. And the band didn't decharacterize the arrangement also. In the subsequent tours the song sadly became an excuse to showboat.
The fans need to have something in mind: if you want any chance of new admiration, bring in black Michael
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Michael was always black *facepalm*
 
What's up with all the bumping of many years old threads lately?

We call that necrobumping and it ain't cool
 
qbee said:
but once he gets past that part I like the way he sings it and the dance and performance is much more refined and so graceful, even erotic. It's almost like he is making love to his audience. It so beautiful, I'm mesmerized when watching him perform it. I even have a YT channel dedicated to it. Ill have to go watch again to see if I can pics a fav. This is a task Ill certainly enjoy.
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Good, I am not the only one who think that. for me, Dangerous Human Nature for the dancing, no questions asked. Though the mime thing is great in Bad tours, but the shoulder isolation and movements towards the end are more refined during Dangerous.
I don't think that YT channel exists anymore, but I like the idea of creating it !
 
Pentum said:
What's up with all the bumping of many years old threads lately?

We call that necrobumping and it ain't cool
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Well, not all of it is coming from me but some of it is and I think it's cooler than cool. I just learnt that DD was recorded in a 7 minute version with a 2 minute guitar solo from Stevie Stevens. Maybe you already knew that but I didn't. I've also learnt really cool stuff from Bill Schnee who engineered stuff for the Jacksons.

I've been on the board for 3 months and there's a lot of stuff about Michael I don't know. Why on earth wouldn't I dig into the archives? Plus, if you check Gaz's comments on this, seems to me he's encouraging people to check the archives before they start a thread.

The best one I've bumped is the one about BWT 1987 which has now got me deeply immersed in those shows. If I hadn't found that thread I wouldn't be where I am now with BWT.

If you don't like the look of a thread, ignore it.
 
Pentum said:
What's up with all the bumping of many years old threads lately?

We call that necrobumping and it ain't cool
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Sorry you feel that way, but for folks who are new to the forum the old threads are source of information and a way to restart some of the conversations that resonate. I would rather resurrect the old threads to keep history than create new duplicate conversations on same topics.

SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah I've noticed this as well. Kinda annoying.
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Not sure why it would be annoying :unsure:
 
@zinniabooklover and @Hiker

I am also totally guilty of bumping mega old threads and it never even occurred to me that it would be annoying to anyone! LOL

I am also a new member, since January, and I absolutely love this forum. It's by far my favorite fan space that I've found. Having threads going back 15+ years is amazing and an absolute treasure trove of information! When I joined I also took it seriously that I should check previous threads before creating a new one, which accounts for a lot of my own bumping. However, honestly, I think the coolest thing about it is getting to see what fans were saying years ago before I was a fan.

I am so new to this fandom and sometimes I just marvel at how much I've missed out on all these years. Like, it blows my mind that people were posting about stuff ten years ago that I just learned about this week! It makes me sad that I didn't become a fan of Michael sooner. But it also makes me feel like I'm a part of something great when I see how consistent his fan base has been.

Anyway, it sucks that it's annoying to fans who have been around longer. But I hope the passion and excitement we all have for Michael is recognized!
 
Huh how is this annoying? I love it! I think @zinniabooklover, @Hiker, @staywild23 and others are reviving this old forum by participating a lot with posts. I look forward everyday to read new posts Thumbs up to them!
Also the few people who frequent the chat like @Lovely4ever and again Hiker, thumbs up for you too. I don't spend much time there any longer because for some reason it says "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action".
Also a shout out to the likes of @AlwaysThere , @Nite Line, @wonderouzmj, @Themidwestcowboy and more
These people are what a forum needs especially a forum of a sadly deceased artist, we need to keep MJ alive!
 
filmandmusic said:
don't spend much time there any longer because for some reason it says "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action".
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Oh no! We miss you on chat. Let me send you a PM to see if that works. We have to fix this immediately.

Sorry, we are getting off topic here. If someone wants to discuss more about appropriateness of bumping old threads, perhaps that discussion demands a new thread (šŸ¤£)
 
Yokohama 1987. That performance is absolutely flawless, it's one of my all time favourite live performances from Mike. A master at work.

I love Human Nature live it's always one of my most anticipated songs from his live shows, I never tire of it

Shout out to This Is It, it was immensely reassuring to watch that on opening night and know my hero still had it. The final note of that performance is exquisite
 
filmandmusic said:
Huh how is this annoying? I love it! I think @zinniabooklover, @Hiker, @staywild23 and other are reviving this old forum by participating a lot with posts. I look forward everyday to read new posts Thumbs up to them!
Also the few people who frequent the chat like @Lovely4ever and again Hiker, thumbs up for you too. I don't spend much time there any longer because for some reason it says "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action".
Also a shout out to the likes of @AlwaysThere , @Nite Line, @wonderouzmj, @Themidwestcowboy and more
These people are what a forum needs especially a forum of a sadly deceased artist, we need to keep MJ alive!
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Necro bumping has been frowned upon in literally every forum I've been on, so it's not an odd thing to be annoyed about. Not really sure why some people seem to be taking it as a personal attack :unsure:.
 
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