The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[ChanceToDance]

We could request buffalo bill (same thing with Tomboy) to be played in a seminar so that someone can record it and leak it. Since they don't care about song leaking from seminars, that shouldn't be a problem.

The only seminar they allowed visitors to choose what song to play was the Making HIStory with MJ seminar with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince. I don't think it'll happen again though.

 

[PanterA90]

Lord J., is this you?

Nope, notice how I said record the song and leak, not steal a laptop

 

[Lotfi11k]

Tomboy have vocals is complete is finished Matt Forger have the song it was in a Seminar a couple of years ago Roger Tourtman helped Michael finished this song

Damien shieleds said tomboy have no vocals

 

[PanterA90]

Damien shieleds said tomboy have no vocals

That means he didn't heard the same version of the song. That means the version on the seminar is the one with vocals and the one in the US Copyright Office is instrumental

 

[Scared of the Moon]

@TheJacksonUnreleased can you backup your claims that you heard Tomboy at the seminar?

 

[Lotfi11k]

That means he didn't heard the same version of the song. That means the version on the seminar is the one with vocals and the one in the US Copyright Office is instrumental

But who told u that there was seminar they played tomboy in no one say that

 

[Lotfi11k]

@TheJacksonUnreleased can you backup your claims that you heard Tomboy at the seminar?

He said he heard it in seminar and that never happened

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Is Victory an actual song or just a slamming toilet lid?

 

[AlwaysThere]

Is Victory an actual song or just a slamming toilet lid?

Someone somewhere attended a recent Queen fan event and asked about that song. Apparently it’s basically MJ and Freddie ad-libbing over some guitar work. I wish I could find the source; I remember clearly reading it.

 

[Fuzball]

wdk whether the Jackson have recorded it (w/o F.M.) for the Victory album or not

 

[Lotfi11k]

wdk whether the Jackson have recorded it (w/o F.M.) for the Victory album or not

There is songs with Jacksons brothers for victory not released yet like slipped away .somewhere in time. And even buffalo bill

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Someone somewhere attended a recent Queen fan event and asked about that song. Apparently it’s basically MJ and Freddie ad-libbing over some guitar work. I wish I could find the source; I remember clearly reading it.

Well that's better than nothing I guess.

 

[Pollonio]

I don't think Damian Shields has all the informations about all unreleased songs. It looks like for some of them, he only has the informations he was allowed to by producers, musicians.
For instance, few weeks ago, we talk about From the bottom of my heart ; Damian Shields said it was only an instrumental. But, there were lots of reports, in sept-dec 2005 and in articles about unreleased stuff in mid 2009, which mentions this song and its state of development. 2005 articles mention 2 versions of the song, the all stars and a second version produced by R Kelly. So, only instrumental ? It's non sense... i just think nobody let Damian listen the instrumental + vocals of the song.

 

[FlyAway0086]

I don't think Damian Shields has all the informations about all unreleased songs. It looks like for some of them, he only has the informations he was allowed to by producers, musicians.
For instance, few weeks ago, we talk about From the bottom of my heart ; Damian Shields said it was only an instrumental. But, there were lots of reports, in sept-dec 2005 and in articles about unreleased stuff in mid 2009, which mentions this song and its state of development. 2005 articles mention 2 versions of the song, the all stars and a second version produced by R Kelly. So, only instrumental ? It's non sense... i just think nobody let Damian listen the instrumental + vocals of the song.

The All-Stars are on "I Have This Dream". It seems as though the media used that title and "Bottom Of My Heart" interchangeably, although they are two distinct titles.

"I Have This Dream" has a usable demo vocal, according to John Barnes.

Sure, perhaps Damien didn't hear the most complete version of every track, but he's a better authority with deeper connections than any of us, I'd say.

 

[Screamin]

more to life than unreleased material MJ didnt give a ISH about!

 

[FlyAway0086]

more to life than unreleased material MJ didnt give a ISH about!

To be fair, it is the subject of the thread.

 

[foralltimerishi]

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[foralltimerishi]

BRAD BUXER and MJ titles,
Things to notice:
Copyrighted in 2010, may be in complete condition...

I recently interview

Brad said his favourite songs includes Days in Gloucestershire, Adore You...

Copyrighted material is in Electronic File! This simply means they copyrighted the exact audio of the songs (might be a complete or instrumental)

 

[FlyAway0086]

BRAD BUXER and MJ titles
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These are from the United States Copyright Office.

 

[foralltimerishi]

These are from the United States Copyright Office.

Yeah! These are copyrighted titles... These might be in complete conditions... As in 2010 they registered them for copyright...

 

[FlyAway0086]

Yeah! These are copyrighted titles... These might be in complete conditions... As in 2010 they registered them for copyright...

Author Damien Shields actually did a detailed breakdown of most of these on Twitter.

Here's a recap, courtesy of @AlwaysThere : https://www.mjjcommunity.com/thread...js-unreleased-tracks-here.144361/post-4554968

 

[foralltimerishi]

Author Damien Shields actually did a detailed breakdown of most of these on Twitter.

Here's a recap, courtesy of @AlwaysThere : https://www.mjjcommunity.com/thread...js-unreleased-tracks-here.144361/post-4554968

Thanks!

 

[NetflexKingGR]

BRAD BUXER and MJ titles,
Things to notice:
Copyrighted in 2010, may be in complete condition...

I recently interview Brad said his favourite songs includes Days in Gloucestershire, Adore You...

Copyrighted material is in Electronic File! This simply means they copyrighted the exact audio of the songs (might be a complete or instrumental)

Is the interview Available anywhere? I'm really interested.

 

[RDamage]

Dream Away is included in Brad's files?

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Dream Away is included in Brad's files?

Nope

 

[foralltimerishi]

Is the interview Available anywhere? I'm really interested.

you can watch it here:

 

[foralltimerishi]

Is the interview Available anywhere? I'm really interested.

You can watch it here:

 

[foralltimerishi]

Steve Porcaro, 2022, copyrighted songs...
This copyright is filed in 2022, contains 4 titles, including leaked Chicago 1945, and other never heard before demos maybe, copyright claim is owned by MJ and Steve...

 

[Scared of the Moon]

Steve Porcaro, 2022, copyrighted songs...
This copyright is filed in 2022, contains 4 titles, including leaked Chicago 1945, and other never heard before demos maybe, copyright claim is owned by MJ and Steve...

the other songs aren't affiliated with mj

https://imgur.com/a/F4giikE

 

[NetflexKingGR]

You can watch it here:

I just want to point out that BB put "Adore You" in the same category of greatness with Beautiful Girl, Stranger In Moscow, In The Back and Days in Gloucestershire. I refuse to believe that "Adore You" has no vocals. You can't put a song that has never been recorded as an example of "The greatest songs you composed".