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Is the chance of any postumous album now over or tour release gone due to this new court case

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It is always the case isnt it . Some sort of anniversary comes around , and another court battle erupts. How on earth can they show this new movie now
with this yet another attack on him and his so called "estate " has not exactly been useful .
 
I think the court case definitely delayed some projects the estate had planned; last year we heard from people who attended seminars and from Teddy Riley himself that they were negotiating with producers for a new album, then earlier this year John Branca says they have no plans to release new music anytime soon so something must've happened for them to shift gears so suddenly.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I think the court case definitely delayed some projects the estate had planned; last year we heard from people who attended seminars and from Teddy Riley himself that they were negotiating with producers for a new album, then earlier this year John Branca says they have no plans to release new music anytime soon so something must've happened for them to shift gears so suddenly.
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They are so silly... They have so many songs to release (even if we don't count Will.I.am and porcaro songs, that are fully finished but can't be released).... TYLA, GYWOOM... These precious songs deserve to be relesed
 
Richard76 said:
They are so silly... They have so many songs to release (even if we don't count Will.I.am and porcaro songs, that are fully finished but can't be released).... TYLA, GYWOOM... These precious songs deserve to be relesed
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Not the first time an album got cancelled because of LN though lol, in 2018 they were working on remixes for single releases but it got canned after LN came out. MJ fans can't have nice things.
 
Hot_Street said:
I can't forget what they did on the Michael album.
Jason Malachi and 50 Cent on a MJ song.
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That was entirely Cascio's fault. He lied to everyone! I don't really like estate, but in Cascio's case there only one man to be blamed on
 
Hot_Street said:
I hope they don't put Eminem on TYLA. With this estate the worst nightmare is possible.
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I don't think they'd do that. Bieber tried passing his own duet version of Slave To The Rhythm off and got shut down by the estate and Sony.

As far as Eminem, I don't want him anywhere near an MJ song. If their going to add a rapper/hip hop artist to a song of his, I'd rather see Biggie sampled again, or maybe Snoop Dog.
 
Prince Of Pop said:
I don't think they'd do that. Bieber tried passing his own duet version of Slave To The Rhythm off and got shut down by the estate and Sony.

As far as Eminem, I don't want him anywhere near an MJ song. If their going to add a rapper/hip hop artist to a song of his, I'd rather see Biggie sampled again, or maybe Snoop Dog.
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What's wrong with Eminem? Actually they were in pretty good relationship with Michael
 
ChanceToDance said:
Not the first time an album got cancelled because of LN though lol, in 2018 they were working on remixes for single releases but it got canned after LN came out. MJ fans can't have nice things.
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It is said that history 25 was planned, it was canceled because of LN or covid19?
 
Hot_Street said:
I can't forget what they did on the Michael album.
Jason Malachi and 50 Cent on a MJ song.
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MJ and 50 Cent wanted to work together. The flaw was hiring Curtis to work on a fake song. But Monster even as a song is the exact opposite of Throwing Your Life Away, it's like saying they wanted to put Eminem on Love Never Felt So Good. Or 50 Cent on Behind The Mask or Best of Joy or something.

If they wanted Eminem on a much harder song thatd be a different debate.
 
I don't want an album, I think it's pointless really...
I prefer a single here and there anytime of the day.
And even that, Idk, I think my opinion has changed throughout the last couple of years. I don't think they should try to give MJ new chart-toppers, it's kinda weird tbh. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear unheard and unreleased stuff, but I don't think releasing them as "new MJ music" is worth it, just couple them to anniversary release or market them as what they are, demos MJ left behind. He did it, he had his career, and I'm all here for keeping his legacy alive, but I don't think prolonging this career artificially is the way to go... Ethical-wise, economic-wise or otherwise-wise
 
ssj said:
I don't want an album, I think it's pointless really...
I prefer a single here and there anytime of the day.
And even that, Idk, I think my opinion has changed throughout the last couple of years. I don't think they should try to give MJ new chart-toppers, it's kinda weird tbh. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear unheard and unreleased stuff, but I don't think releasing them as "new MJ music" is worth it, just couple them to anniversary release or market them as what they are, demos MJ left behind. He did it, he had his career, and I'm all here for keeping his legacy alive, but I don't think prolonging this career artificially is the way to go... Ethical-wise, economic-wise or otherwise-wise
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I can not disagree. But I did like Xscape. And the sensation of enjoying that "new" is exciting for a while.
 
ssj said:
He did it, he had his career, and I'm all here for keeping his legacy alive, but I don't think prolonging this career artificially is the way to go... Ethical-wise, economic-wise or otherwise-wise
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With so many great songs left in the vault I guess it's safe to say he'll have some hits in the future, that will keep his legacy alive.
 
Hot_Street said:
I hope they don't put Eminem on TYLA. With this estate the worst nightmare is possible.
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Is this grounded in reality somehow? Having Eminem on there would be disrespectful, not least because of that disgusting music video he made. And furthermore, there is no need for celebrity features on Throwing Your Life Away – the song is bloody brilliant as is!
 
ssj said:
I don't want an album, I think it's pointless really...
I prefer a single here and there anytime of the day.
And even that, Idk, I think my opinion has changed throughout the last couple of years. I don't think they should try to give MJ new chart-toppers, it's kinda weird tbh. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear unheard and unreleased stuff, but I don't think releasing them as "new MJ music" is worth it, just couple them to anniversary release or market them as what they are, demos MJ left behind. He did it, he had his career, and I'm all here for keeping his legacy alive, but I don't think prolonging this career artificially is the way to go... Ethical-wise, economic-wise or otherwise-wise
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All of this.

Maybe it's a subtle distinction but I agree that there is a difference between keeping his legacy alive - which is lovely - and trying to prolong his career which does feel strangely artificial. That said, this is an interesting point and I want to think about it some more.
 
At the end of the day, I rather it just chart than leak onto YouTube and be copyright struck a few days later.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I think the court case definitely delayed some projects the estate had planned; last year we heard from people who attended seminars and from Teddy Riley himself that they were negotiating with producers for a new album, then earlier this year John Branca says they have no plans to release new music anytime soon so something must've happened for them to shift gears so suddenly.
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Could all be smoke and mirrors, the estate may not be ready to talk about a new album.
Richard76 said:
What's wrong with Eminem? Actually they were in pretty good relationship with Michael
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Eminem was a Michael Jackson fan and was on the record for saying so,. even in 2001 he said Invincible was underrated. Eminem stirred everyone. EVERYONE. If you'e gonna take it personally you're falling for his trap. Eminem is his own kind of icon and while I wouldn't say he's on Michael Jackson's level by any stretch, he has the longevity and runs on the board to arguably be the biggest star in the world since.

Andymachine said:
It is always the case isnt it . Some sort of anniversary comes around , and another court battle erupts. How on earth can they show this new movie now
with this yet another attack on him and his so called "estate " has not exactly been useful .
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It's going to depend what happens with any court case. It could very well just crumble to pieces. I think there will be a new album the question is just when. It most certainly wont be before the biopic.
ssj said:
I don't want an album, I think it's pointless really...
I prefer a single here and there anytime of the day.
And even that, Idk, I think my opinion has changed throughout the last couple of years. I don't think they should try to give MJ new chart-toppers, it's kinda weird tbh. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear unheard and unreleased stuff, but I don't think releasing them as "new MJ music" is worth it, just couple them to anniversary release or market them as what they are, demos MJ left behind. He did it, he had his career, and I'm all here for keeping his legacy alive, but I don't think prolonging this career artificially is the way to go... Ethical-wise, economic-wise or otherwise-wise
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I am not sure I agree with this. If a new MJ song can be a hit, it should be given the chance. We're yet to see an artist sustain much posthumous success on the charts but I don't see why Michael Jackson can't be that guy. I can only think of Elvis and Little Less Conversation, Bob Marley with Sun is Shining. I think albums have a feeling of being slapped together and maybe the music shouldn't be released as "an album" as such, or with the veneer of being an album because it can't be a cohesive experience. But I am for them releasing reworked music, provided it is good.

And to those who want TYLA so much, I am now on board with you. Love that track. Hopefully there is a clear vocal recording of it. The beat itself needs very little done to it, maybe a quick spruce up but the jist of the thing is still perfect. You could release that today with the right mixing and have a dancefloor banger I firmly believe.

So far the best posthumous tracks for mine -

Behind the Mask
Place with no name
Loving you
Chicago (kind of, I feel like its got potential but isn't quite there).

Behind the Mask in my opinion should have been marketed harder. That song is classic MJ
 
Hurley509 said:
a new MJ song can be a hit, it should be given the chance. We're yet to see an artist sustain much posthumous success on the charts but I don't see why Michael Jackson can't be that guy.
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That's exactly where my problem lies, morally. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it. We already got some chart successes out of MJ's posthumous career and I just feel it's kinda wrong to artificially prolong that path. It would be another thing if an artist had actually planned to release certain songs and albums after his lifetime, trying to prolong their chart success, but otherwise, idk man, feels kinda weird.
 
I hope it doesn't mess anything up, I'm looking forward to the biopic and hoping that there'll be a new album soon.

Personally, if a new album came out, I would like a few songs from each era. And the originals too!
 
It wouldn’t hurt if they would just drop one new single. Smfh I will never understand this Estate strategy. I get it that there is a lawsuit but there is always a lawsuit. Release something, it’s Michael f$@king Jackson.
 
Prince Of Pop said:
I don't think they'd do that. Bieber tried passing his own duet version of Slave To The Rhythm off and got shut down by the estate and Sony.

As far as Eminem, I don't want him anywhere near an MJ song. If their going to add a rapper/hip hop artist to a song of his, I'd rather see Biggie sampled again, or maybe Snoop Dog.
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Bieber's STTR was official haha
 
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