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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

NetflexKing said:
That shows how new of a fan he is. I remember the calm era of 2015-2018, with the only thing close to a leak being that video of Brad talking over "Family Thing" snippet.
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I wonder when this obsession really started? In 2013-2014 not many people seemed to care that much about unreleased tracks. There was some mild hype over the 1-second snippet of GYWOOM, DIG, POTW and IAAL.

I'd say this craze started just before the full Seeing Voices leak, around 8 years ago. It got worse when Sergie Sainz leaked tons of multitrack sessions and Ghost Of Another Lover. The era of trading on that certain Brazilian forum was terrible, lmao.
 
Saka21 said:
I wonder when this obsession really started? In 2013-2014 not many people seemed to care that much about unreleased tracks. There was some mild hype over the 1-second snippet of GYWOOM, DIG, POTW and IAAL.

I'd say this craze started just before the full Seeing Voices leak, around 8 years ago. It got worse when Sergie Sainz leaked tons of multitrack sessions and Ghost Of Another Lover. The era of trading on that certain Brazilian forum was terrible, lmao.
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Saka21 said:
I wonder when this obsession really started? In 2013-2014 not many people seemed to care that much about unreleased tracks. There was some mild hype over the 1-second snippet of GYWOOM, DIG, POTW and IAAL.

I'd say this craze started just before the full Seeing Voices leak, around 8 years ago. It got worse when Sergie Sainz leaked tons of multitrack sessions and Ghost Of Another Lover. The era of trading on that certain Brazilian forum was terrible, lmao.
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I’d say the seminar leaks have definitely pushed the interest of unreleased songs into popularity. It’s also probably because as time passes since MJ died, there’s sort of an interest in terms of preserving what he worked on in his life. I don’t know, I think any kind of thing MJ had a hand in is fairly interesting, especially during post invincible when he wasn’t out in the public as much.
 
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I heard that boots groove played before in Seminar I want to know if have vocals
 
SMJJ777 said:
www.billboard.com

Michael Jackson Estate Lawyers Get ‘Stolen’ Studio Tapes Pulled From Auction

Michael Jackson estate lawyers got "stolen" tapes of music studio recordings pulled from an auction website.
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Some news regarding the tapes that got pulled from the auction site, apparently they were illegally stolen and the estate sent them a restraining order and a cease and desist order.
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I like this. Not because of their tone but it does kinda highlight how significant MJ songs are
 
SMJJ777 said:
www.billboard.com

Michael Jackson Estate Lawyers Get ‘Stolen’ Studio Tapes Pulled From Auction

Michael Jackson estate lawyers got "stolen" tapes of music studio recordings pulled from an auction website.
www.billboard.com www.billboard.com

Some news regarding the tapes that got pulled from the auction site, apparently they were illegally stolen and the estate sent them a restraining order and a cease and desist order.
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So are these real MJ songs with vocals? Or just writers demos and instrumentals?
 
Best part:
Less than two hours later on Tuesday, the company’s attorney responded to Spiro with an email: “There is no contact information on your email. What is the best phone number to reach you?”
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
What does that have to do with what I said? I'm talking about Michael Jackson's reputation in the public being as big a deal as can be.
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Oh, ok. I thought you meant that it is important to them, basically insinuating that the tapes might contain his vocals. My bad!
 
Has the Estate done anything like that before to any of the collectors? For example when Korgnex tried to sell the "Golden CD".
 
NetflexKing said:
Has the Estate done anything like that before to any of the collectors? For example when Korgnex tried to sell the "Golden CD".
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Not that I've heard about. I know they went after a few people who leaked things online I believe, but never any auctioned items I don't think.
 
I think there might be some (perhaps still unknown to us) fully fleshed out demos made for Thriller that were productionwise on par with TGIM demo


John van Nest in 2009:

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.

Over the next year or two, I hosted the Jacksons many times, recording various tracks, claps (we had a jacuzzi room which they loved to use for the massive white-noise claps that people liked back then). I got to know all the brothers.
 
Fuzball said:
I think there might be some (perhaps still unknown to us) fully fleshed out demos made for Thriller that were productionwise on par with TGIM demo


John van Nest in 2009:

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.

Over the next year or two, I hosted the Jacksons many times, recording various tracks, claps (we had a jacuzzi room which they loved to use for the massive white-noise claps that people liked back then). I got to know all the brothers.
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Good find but no mention about the particular tracks and if they made the album. For all we know, this could be related to WBSS, Beat It, Billie Jean, etc.
 
A lot of the confusion with these unreleased tracks could easily be solved if we just had access to ask people like Greg Phillinganes, Matt Forger, Bill Bottrell, The Jacksons, etc. These people still seem to have very good memories. If it were just that simple..
 
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