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The Brad Sunberg Seminar Leak/Theft of 2023

ChanceToDance said:
Just by the way that we got GYWOOM and C1945 alone makes it a pretty insane year for leaks. Only way a leak like that can be surpassed is if someone hacks into the Sony servers again and leaks Buffalo Bill or something lol.
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Or dates Will I Am and leak the songs from his phone
 
DanGerouS- said:
leaks are the only way to go. the estate won't put out anything we want.

leaks > estate.
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Pure greed. Be happy with what you get, despite we all obviously want more.

Michael might not even wanted his unfinished songs to be released anyway.

Let alone people stealing or even robbing HIS personal material (yes his demos) to leak it to the public.
 
can someone explain to me why the HDs weren't encrypted? how could you not encrypt critical data like this?
 
I hope Rodney Jerkins would hear the full writer’s demo of You Don’t Love Me and You rock my world that was sung by the late Lashawn daniels
 
MJImpeccable said:
Pure greed. Be happy with what you get, despite we all obviously want more.

Michael might not even wanted his unfinished songs to be released anyway.
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If I remember well, I think it was in the making documentary of the Michael album (or it may be another document). It say that Michael had left a legacy for future releases... I don't remember the precise words, hearing that it was almost as if he had left a map and keys...
I think that the Estate (according to articles) had said that there would be enough to release every like 1 album every year or so.

Then, why did the speech over this change transform into something like "nothing should be released"?
 
Maxym said:
If I remember well, I think it was in the making documentary of the Michael album (or it may be another document). It say that Michael had left a legacy for future releases... I don't remember the precise words, hearing that it was almost as if he had left a map and keys...
I think that the Estate (according to articles) had said that there would be enough to release every like 1 album every year or so.

Then, why did the speech over this change transform into something like "nothing should be released"?
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The contradictions on how much is left in the vault is such a mistery, some claim enough for 1 album every year, while others say there is nothing left..

The same for what Michael wanted himself with the unreleased material, Some say Michael was a perfectionist and wanted nobody to hear it, others say he left songs for his kids to earn more money.

Does anyone know what the future plans for the estate are on who runs it? Branca is getting older and would Prince be interested to run it? (In terms of planning projects and releases etc.)
 
Maxym said:
If I remember well, I think it was in the making documentary of the Michael album (or it may be another document). It say that Michael had left a legacy for future releases... I don't remember the precise words, hearing that it was almost as if he had left a map and keys...
I think that the Estate (according to articles) had said that there would be enough to release every like 1 album every year or so.

Then, why did the speech over this change transform into something like "nothing should be released"?
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I think a big problem after Michael's passing was thesuccess of TII coming so soon. TII was a necessary release and it had to be out before 2010 to help understand what happened. But consequently it caused a problem of "okay what's the next thing?"

I think people at Sony/the record label took Mike at his word when he'd say he'd "record 50 or 60 songs for each album", I think once he said he wrote over a 100. They were just parroting that, rather than checking what they had to hand to release or what they could find.

With hindsight the Estate would have been better served, taking their time, cataloguing everything they could, reaching out to collaborators and getting a better picture of what's left, instead of rushing out anything.

I do think the Tax situation and the impending court case, has somewhat forced them into retreat and perhaps made them a bit more frugal with unreleased material.
Thankfully we've been extremely lucky with leaks in the last 18 months
 
HARD DRIVES CONTAINING new Michael Jackson songs and unreleased cuts from his ’80s peak were removed from the King of Pop’s estate by sister LaToya after the singer’s death on June 25th, Rolling Stone reports in our new issue, in an in-depth look at the battle between will co-executors and the Jackson family over Michael’s estate. Jackson’s manager Frank DiLeo told RS that there are over 100 songs that remain unreleased, but the hard drives removed from Jackson’s Los Angeles home feature songs Jackson worked on with Akon, Will.i.am and Ne-Yo.

While DiLeo says some of the material was “not up to [Jackson’s] standards,” there were six songs from recent sessions that were potential hits. “I said, ‘Produce them,’ ” DiLeo told Jackson. “And he said, ‘Naw, I’m not ready for you to listen to them.’ ” In the weeks following Jackson’s death, DiLeo says every day brings a new discovery into the singer’s unheard musical vault. “There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational,” DiLeo adds.
- Rolling Stone, 2009



Mottola, who has described himself as the “shepherd and gatekeeper” of Jackson’s catalog and is familiar with it better than anyone, said that for every album Jackson made — including classics like 1979’s “Off the Wall” and 1982’s “Thriller” — he recorded several tracks that didn’t make it onto the records.

“There are dozens and dozens of songs that did not end up on his albums,” said Tommy Mottola, who from 1998 to 2003 was chairman and CEO of Sony Music, which owns the distribution rights to Jackson’s music. “People will be hearing a lot of that unreleased material for the first time ever. There’s just some genius and brilliance in there.”

Steve Gordon, an entertainment lawyer and author of “The Future of the Music Business,” worked at Sony Music during the 1990s. He said he was at Sony when Jackson’s last contract was negotiated, though he acknowledged it could have recently been updated.
Gordon said Jackson owns some of his master recordings, while others are owned in partnership with Sony. Regardless, he said, Sony retains exclusive distribution rights for anything Jackson produced during the term of their contract.
Gordon said he expects Sony’s Legacy Recordings division to do something similar to what it did with Elvis and create a division purely for Jackson’s catalog.
- Billboard, 2009



McClain found some 60 songs in various forms that have never been released, according to people familiar with the songs, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Even if only half were commercially viable, that would be enough for two or three albums. And some songs also could be packaged with already-heard material, which likely wouldn’t detract from a new album’s value.
-Pioneer Press, 2010
 
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Fuzball said:
HARD DRIVES CONTAINING new Michael Jackson songs and unreleased cuts from his ’80s peak were removed from the King of Pop’s estate by sister LaToya after the singer’s death on June 25th, Rolling Stone reports in our new issue, in an in-depth look at the battle between will co-executors and the Jackson family over Michael’s estate. Jackson’s manager Frank DiLeo told RS that there are over 100 songs that remain unreleased, but the hard drives removed from Jackson’s Los Angeles home feature songs Jackson worked on with Akon, Will.i.am and Ne-Yo.

While DiLeo says some of the material was “not up to [Jackson’s] standards,” there were six songs from recent sessions that were potential hits. “I said, ‘Produce them,’ ” DiLeo told Jackson. “And he said, ‘Naw, I’m not ready for you to listen to them.’ ” In the weeks following Jackson’s death, DiLeo says every day brings a new discovery into the singer’s unheard musical vault. “There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational,” DiLeo adds.
- Rolling Stone, 2009



Mottola, who has described himself as the “shepherd and gatekeeper” of Jackson’s catalog and is familiar with it better than anyone, said that for every album Jackson made — including classics like 1979’s “Off the Wall” and 1982’s “Thriller” — he recorded several tracks that didn’t make it onto the records.

“There are dozens and dozens of songs that did not end up on his albums,” said Tommy Mottola, who from 1998 to 2003 was chairman and CEO of Sony Music, which owns the distribution rights to Jackson’s music. “People will be hearing a lot of that unreleased material for the first time ever. There’s just some genius and brilliance in there.”

Steve Gordon, an entertainment lawyer and author of “The Future of the Music Business,” worked at Sony Music during the 1990s. He said he was at Sony when Jackson’s last contract was negotiated, though he acknowledged it could have recently been updated.
Gordon said Jackson owns some of his master recordings, while others are owned in partnership with Sony. Regardless, he said, Sony retains exclusive distribution rights for anything Jackson produced during the term of their contract.
Gordon said he expects Sony’s Legacy Recordings division to do something similar to what it did with Elvis and create a division purely for Jackson’s catalog.
- Billboard, 2009



McClain found some 60 songs in various forms that have never been released, according to people familiar with the songs, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Even if only half were commercially viable, that would be enough for two or three albums. And some songs also could be packaged with already-heard material, which likely wouldn’t detract from a new album’s value.
-Pioneer Press, 2010
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apologies but i had to edit your post's colours for readability, im on dark mode and couldnt read a thing :ROFLMAO:
 
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