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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Fuzball said:
Kinda. They've replaced live instruments with midi during late production stages.

Funny enough, the 1978 recording was already fully fleshed out - it has full vocals & orchestra.
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When Janet made those comments about Michael writing classical music as early as the late 70s maybe she meant the likes of Little Susie?
 
Fuzball said:
She's reportedly mentioned a song called "Iowa" in an interview with Q magazine.

Btw, does any of you scans of that magazine? Should be issue 81 from 1993.
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Don't know if these are quotes from the article itself. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Jackson Rules said:
Yes, the song is "Iowa", wrote in 1977 just before "The Wiz".
It was on a interview for the "Q" magazine in 1993.
She said: "He put all the songs he had written onto tape in the studio in our parents' house... These are the things he's written for orchestras, that are classical music-- like something from Bach or Beethoven."
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OnirMJ said:
IOWA
Piece of classical music written by Michael, as confirmed by his sister Janet, in an interview with Q
magazine in 1993 – remains unreleased.
‘He (Michael) has a song called Iowa, that he wrote – people will never hear that song,’ said Janet. ‘Just before he left to film The Wiz, he put all the songs he had written on to tape in the studio in our parents’ house. Not one of them has been heard and those were songs to cry for. These are the things that he’s written for orchestras, that are classical music – like something by Bach or Beethoven.’
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Mister_Jay_Tee said:
So far we've gotten about 4 songs released twice in 20 years... The Way You Love Me, This Is It, Best of Joy, and Behind The Mask. Maybe there's others.
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When & where was ‚This Is It’ released twice?

If you think of the two different Mixes, they came on the same release.
If that counts as two different releases, then how often for example ‚In The Closet‘ was released.

I agree with your other examples though!
 
I still find it interesting that Michasl thought the 1988 version of Streetwalkee was superior because it isn’t at all. The 1988 one is great domt get me wrong, but the vibe of the 87 feels so much more fitting to what Streetwalker is about, plus it doesn’t feel like an aggressive cousin to TWYMMF
 
threepea11 said:
I still find it interesting that Michasl thought the 1988 version of Streetwalkee was superior because it isn’t at all. The 1988 one is great domt get me wrong, but the vibe of the 87 feels so much more fitting to what Streetwalker is about, plus it doesn’t feel like an aggressive cousin to TWYMMF
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Well Someone put your head out DEMO might be superior as well compared to the progressed version.
 
Depends what you're looking for. I think the final version is better but the uptempo feel of the earlier is nice.
MJ5 said:
Well Someone put your head out DEMO might be superior as well compared to the progressed version.
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Streetwalker is uptempo both ways, one's just groovier. Ones more cowboy.
 
... I think sometime he worked just too long on certain Song ideas.

I mean how good was the simple piano/vocal demo of LNFSG compared to later released heavily produced songs. The pure Michael strikes through mainly from OTW to Bad in my opinion. The Little Susie Demo would be so interesting to hear. Maybe another example.
 
threepea11 said:
I still find it interesting that Michasl thought the 1988 version of Streetwalkee was superior because it isn’t at all.
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There was also "Streetwalker" a true orphan, I made that track while MJ was on tour for Bad. Holed up at Smoketree for a couple weeks, played all the stuff, and my friend Jasun Martz came and played the blues harp solo, when I sent it in Michael said, "Billy that harmonica is ignorant!" (and not in a good way) I wrote the whole thing off until noticing a week ago that they released it! As is.
 
xrisx said:
Anyway on to the good stuff. Again I don't remember what was shared in the other seminars so I'm sure a lot of it will be similar. Here is a list of demos he played:
-I can't help it
-Scared of the moon (at least a different sounding version)
-Streetwalker (2 different versions from the one we know)
-Black or white (almost the same as the one released but without the rap in place)
-Monkey business
-If you don't love me
-Who is it
-Give in to me ( Really special to hear, you basically heard a jam session for like 10 min. and you could hear the song evolve in to what we know now, it sounded totally different at first!)
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Wait, there's a Westlake version of Scared of the Moon???
 
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