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Was mj a sad person

I would say that around Off the Wall/Thriller time he definitely seems to be much happier.

Just watch the videos to DSTYGE/Rock With You, you can't fake that kind of exuberance. People who were around him at the time seem to indicate that breaking out as a solo star, getting away from his father/brothers, working with Quincy and finally managing to shake the "child star" image definitely made him happy.

The problem is with childhood trauma (from experience) is that it never really goes away. You'll have periods where you feel happy, but if something triggers those memories, then you're back to square one.
 
Sadly yep i think that is what happened with michael unfortnaely :( breaks my heart he could not break away from it and find a way to deal with it and let it go
 
How could he be happy really?

Fame became a prison and the media an enemy. - He could not walk around freely or do anything really.

And then obviously the allegations destroyed him, how could any innocent man handle to be accused for the most vicious crime twice?? It always amazes me how MJ even found the strength just to get out of bed...

Of course his children made him happy - I think actually from 1993 and to he died the only really happy times he had was with his children - when he had fun and was able to just shortly forget all the crap he had to deal with.

I would never wish to live the life MJ did. - I like being able to go to the bakery sunday morning looking like crap with hangovers and buy some bread and a paper and then walk home to my girlfriend and child and have a good time. - MJ could never do that... I can not imagine not being able to go out. To shops, to a cafe, go to a restaurant etc. etc. - not something I value normally, but imagine not being able to... sad really
 
He was.

I mean, the guy was famous (he still is) but despite the fame and fortune, opportunities to meet powerful people, millions of fans and travel around the world, have the people's eyes and ears on him, there was something missing, and that "missing" thing made him the sad person that he became. That "missing" thing was unfortunately what he wanted. Badly.

I guess he just sought that work-life "balance" in his life--make music on one end (work), but have a life "out of it" on another. But he (somehow) did not get the latter, because when he tried to do so the work always followed and chased him.

MJ sought for the simple joys in life, which he somehow (or did not at all) was not able to experience. Go out of the house, say hi and smile to random people without getting mobbed, sit on a park bench and observe people, talk to and learn about the "normal" surroundings, etc. The guy has a lifetime of singing, awards and public attention, I guess he just wanted that opposite of those for a change.
 
I Believe he was very sad, I think a lot of that sadness was bought on by loneliness. It's amazing to be a big star but he knew nothing other than that kind of life from being a child which resulted in him not actually having a childhood. I used to moan about going to school when all I wanted to do was play outside with my friends but Michael never got the chance to do any of the things that normal kids got to do. He couldnt go out without being mobbed by paparazzi and fans. I know he loved his fans dearly but I'm sure that he would have loved to just be able to go to the local shop without being pestered. I agree that when you look at michael his eyes tell you the sadness that he felt. I have seen a few videos of him smiling and laughing (it's infectious) and those are mainly when he's just playing with family and friends, having water fights and stuff in neverland. He just wanted to be loved and have people around him but the older he got the less friends he had as they had their own lives. I really wish that things could have been different for him, it's awful to think that such a wonderful man was so unhappy in the world. Imagine just being able to him a big hug and tell him everything would be ok
 
MJTruth said:
I know that if I was in MJ's position in '93 and '03 I would have been incredibly stressed, depressed, and much more. then throw in the medical issues and the negativity in the press about his skin colour etc.
Actually it must have been hard even at other times because the allegations haunted him for life. Wherever he went there people who thought he was guilty, and although there were fans there too he would have been hounded by the negativity. Just watch the Monaco World Music Awards from '96. There are quite clearly a couple of lads there who are aggressively shouting abuse at MJ during his performance. That must have been upsetting.
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Sorry to dig up this conversation but I need more explanations...

Were there really some people who insult him during his performance?!!
 
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I think his busy schedulling and work ethos saved him from becoming too depressed.
Distraction and purpose are not the 'cure' for anxiety and depression but they sure help tremendously
 
What really angers me about some people, is when I hear comments like "He was so loved and successful; how could he possibly be sad?" They're conveniently ignoring the fundamental fact that Michael was human, just like the rest of us. He had some happy times, to be sure...but because of various circumstances (very few consciously chosen), his personal life was one step away from the phrase "a living hell". He was robbed very early on of his innocence, denied a proper childhood, and ridiculously restrained by the cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses (and yes, they are a cult; do your own research on the subject). After he left that group behind, he was more free career-wise, but he still had many inner demons to fight. His chronic insomnia, continued pain from the burns he suffered during the infamous Pepsi video shoot, and undergoing multiple surgeries, some of which never fully healed...quite frankly, I'm surprised he lived to 50. Throw in the vitiligo and lupus, plus fools around the world claiming that Prince and Paris weren't really his kids...I still love his music, but I'm selfishly glad I never had to experience his life.
 
I am sure he was happy during Thriller/ Bad era, maybe even upto Dangerous. He had success he dreamed of, he bought Neverland and converted it into his dream house. His autobiography at that time seems happy. Though in later years, are a different story.
 
mysterygirl7 said:
No he wasnt... he laughed a lot, and had that true joy. But I guess he was lonely, since he always said that himself.
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Laughing a lot does not always mean that you are a truly happy person, because for example your laughing can be a result of drugs/substances.
Hiker said:
I am sure he was happy during Thriller/ Bad era, maybe even upto Dangerous. He had success he dreamed of, he bought Neverland and converted it into his dream house. His autobiography at that time seems happy. Though in later years, are a different story.
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According to sources close to him, Michael Jackson exhibited signs not only of sadness but also of depression during the Victory Tour.

For example, his voice while he was speaking to his mother on the telephone at that time was a voice of a man being in anguish, despair and despondency.
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What really angers me about some people, is when I hear comments like "He was so loved and successful; how could he possibly be sad?" They're conveniently ignoring the fundamental fact that Michael was human, just like the rest of us. He had some happy times, to be sure...but because of various circumstances (very few consciously chosen), his personal life was one step away from the phrase "a living hell". He was robbed very early on of his innocence, denied a proper childhood, and ridiculously restrained by the cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses (and yes, they are a cult; do your own research on the subject). After he left that group behind, he was more free career-wise, but he still had many inner demons to fight. His chronic insomnia, continued pain from the burns he suffered during the infamous Pepsi video shoot, and undergoing multiple surgeries, some of which never fully healed...quite frankly, I'm surprised he lived to 50. Throw in the vitiligo and lupus, plus fools around the world claiming that Prince and Paris weren't really his kids...I still love his music, but I'm selfishly glad I never had to experience his life.
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There was also his Body Dysmorphic Disorder (i.e., his excessive concern with a perceived, minor physical irregularity).

You can never be truly happy if you suffer from such a disorder because it causes you (for extended periods each day) severe emotional distress to the point that it even disrupts your daily functioning/activities.
 
I think he had a lot of reasons to be sad.
some of the earliest indications of his sadness:
Jack still cries day and night
Jack's not happy with his life
He wanna do this, he wanna do that
He wanna be kind but ends up flat
For love
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But you can't take my blues away
No matter what you say, hey
You can't take my blues away
No matter what you say
What you say, hey, babe
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Moviefan2k4 said:
What really angers me about some people, is when I hear comments like "He was so loved and successful; how could he possibly be sad?" They're conveniently ignoring the fundamental fact that Michael was human, just like the rest of us. He had some happy times, to be sure...but because of various circumstances (very few consciously chosen), his personal life was one step away from the phrase "a living hell". He was robbed very early on of his innocence, denied a proper childhood, and ridiculously restrained by the cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses (and yes, they are a cult; do your own research on the subject). After he left that group behind, he was more free career-wise, but he still had many inner demons to fight. His chronic insomnia, continued pain from the burns he suffered during the infamous Pepsi video shoot, and undergoing multiple surgeries, some of which never fully healed...quite frankly, I'm surprised he lived to 50. Throw in the vitiligo and lupus, plus fools around the world claiming that Prince and Paris weren't really his kids...I still love his music, but I'm selfishly glad I never had to experience his life.
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Yeah I would say so.
The "Glenda Tapes" revealed how much he was sad not finding a right woman.
He had probably a happier time being with Lisa Marie.
 
I think he suffered from depression and loneliness, I mean the amount of trauma he faced, the betrayals he faced, people leeching off him and using him. The media constantly hounding him, the mental and health issues, not to mention the financial issues. He definitely had a lot to be sad about. He said he wanted to find love and be loved but he wasn't able to find it in the end.

He didn't really have anyone in his circle looking out for his best interest. Nearly everyone used him for their own needs or stabbed him in the back. I honestly think had it not been for his kids (and mother) he would've been way worse off
 
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