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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Hollywood_Tonight said:
I do, it’s a nice track. I think the best Bryan Loren tracks tend to have a more scarce/simplistic production (Don’t Believe It, She Got It, Superfly, Family Thing, DITN), which allows the vocal to shine.

I agree with most that the Bryan Loren tracks are some of the weakest in the catalog, but most of these tracks have strong vocals and there are enjoyable moments in almost all of them.
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That’s an interesting point. I feel like MJ’s vocals were much stronger in those early Dangerous sessions than the later Dangerous Sessions.
 
I feel like Dangerous 25 didn't happen just because it would force engagement with Bryan Loren and they'd rather do anything than that.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I feel like Dangerous 25 didn't happen just because it would force engagement with Bryan Loren and they'd rather do anything than that.
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The real reason was Loren asking too much money for his tracks to be used and being a prick to work with, causing the estate to cut ties with him saying that his tracks will NEVER be released.
 
Beano Wild said:
The real reason was Loren asking too much money for his tracks to be used and being a prick to work with, causing the estate to cut ties with him saying that his tracks will NEVER be released.
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Imagine asking for too much money when all you've made is mid.

Besides, every vocally-complete song he's ever done with MJ is out there. What new tracks would Dangerous 25 include, anyway? The rumored vocal version of Men In Black? If that's the only new thing we could've gotten, then I guess nothing of value was lost after all.
 
Beano Wild said:
The real reason was Loren asking too much money for his tracks to be used and being a prick to work with, causing the estate to cut ties with him saying that his tracks will NEVER be released.
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Ehh. When he dies finally I'm sure that'll be a good time to scoop em Up.
 
I don’t understand how people are justifying producers and writers etc not getting well paid for their work when distributed to potentially billions of people, regardless the “output quality”. We know the estate want to make the biggest profit for the least possible cost. It’s sad how that’s made us miss out on some proper complete releases. The estate can well afford it and still “reap” a huge profit compared to everyone else…

If we were Loren/Temperton/Quincy we’d probably behave as they do.
The industry is just unethical.
 
Sensual visionary said:
I don’t understand how people are justifying producers and writers etc not getting well paid for their work when distributed to potentially billions of people, regardless the “output quality”. We know the estate want to make the biggest profit for the least possible cost. It’s sad how that’s made us miss out on some proper complete releases. The estate can well afford it and still “reap” a huge profit compared to everyone else…

If we were Loren/Temperton/Quincy we’d probably behave as they do.
The industry is just unethical.
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Loren was exceptionally out of line even for an embittered song writer.
 
Theresafire said:
Who owns a copy of Seven Digits? Any leakers? The guy who does the seminars? Aside from the estate ofc
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There were a good amount of BL tracks along with Seven Digits that were played at a Paris seminar in 2016, and seeing how the Man In Black leak was sourced from that seminar it's most definitely that there are people who own the recording of all the other songs.

Weird how it's been almost 10 years since that seminar and not one snippet of those songs leaked though lol.
 
Maybe the Estates idea now is one big posthumous album every decade, with just an anniversary album or two besides that. And then mostly other projects to diversify the Estates output in other fields, like the Circus, Broadway, and Cinema.
 
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