The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Serious Effect and Superfly Sister are my favorites from the Loren sessions. His production doesn't feel fresh
 
So somebody posted this snippet on discord


Is it real?

They say this is from 2:56 of the song

I think it is real but it could be a very good fake
 
“Superfly Sister” and “Serious Effect” are fantastic, in my opinion. Not groundbreaking, but the funk grooves and melodies are top-tier. Everything else is pretty middling.
To Satisfy You is the only Loren track that is good to me. 9/10. With or without Michael, i like it. The production is nice asf.
 
So somebody posted this snippet on discord


Is it real?

They say this is from 2:56 of the song

I think it is real but it could be a very good fake
Did they say what the alleged differences are between this version and the released one? I can’t quite tell what “1985 mix” is supposed to mean.
 
I'm sorry for what about to ask but how the heck do you sell a song on eBay??? How do you sell a song in general?
On ebay, it's people selling a cassette or CD that has a recording of a song. They're not selling the rights to the composition or the record, just the support that has the song on it.
 
So somebody posted this snippet on discord


Is it real?

They say this is from 2:56 of the song

I think it is real but it could be a very good fake
Could possibly be real. I don’t hear any strings, but could be AI filtered out.
 
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It's an improvement. Too bad it still sounds filtered and LQ to me.. I always could hear much potential in this song. Vocal energy and musical counterpoints are great. Looking forward to the year 2101 when Branca's grandchildren finally yield and it's released on holoCD™ :p
I also approve of MJ's use of several "hee-hee's" on the song, the absence of said "hee-hee's" on most Invincible songs being reason #75 why I dislike that album so much.
 
Does anyone still listen to Deep in the Night? Did it develop further?
I do, it’s a nice track. I think the best Bryan Loren tracks tend to have a more scarce/simplistic production (Don’t Believe It, She Got It, Superfly, Family Thing, DITN), which allows the vocal to shine.

I agree with most that the Bryan Loren tracks are some of the weakest in the catalog, but most of these tracks have strong vocals and there are enjoyable moments in almost all of them.
 
I think an album containing Bryan Loren's unreleased material would be superb, it's a beautiful dream.
Don't Believe It, Man in Black, Seven Digits, are titles for example from the very early 1990s, Very Michael finally.
I find myself more in certain productions of Bryan Loren than of Teddy Riley, this is just my personal opinion. The choice of instruments and the notes have an effect on me.
 
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I think an album containing Bryan Loren's unreleased material would be superb, it's a beautiful dream.
Don't Believe It, Man in Black, Seven Digits, are titles for example from the very early 1990s, Very Michael finally.
I find myself more in certain productions of Bryan Loren than of Teddy Riley, this is just my personal opinion. The choice of instruments and the notes have an effect on me.
Who owns a copy of Seven Digits? Any leakers? The guy who does the seminars? Aside from the estate ofc
 
Yep I love the vibe of it to be honest mate, it reminds me of Don't Be Messin' Round a little bit

Yeah I love the demo of Deep In The Night! I really wonder how the lead vocals would (have) sounded though; maybe something like 'Liberian Girl'? Hard to imagine lead vocals on that beat tbh

Same with 'Don't Be Messin' Round'; it's a bit bossanova but also reminds me of Leave Me Alone, Streetwalker and Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. I wonder if it was supposed to be more of a hard hitting track like 'The Way You Make Me Feel' or 'Streetwalker'.. Will we ever know?
 
On a different note: Do you guys think Mick Jagger did more music with Michael than 'State of Shock'? The story goes that Jagger became obsessed with MJ after Thriller's succes..
 
So here are the Bryan Loren sounds we'd like to hear :

- Man In Black (6:35)
- Seven Digits (2:56)
- Don't Believe It (5:46)
- Truth About You (5:02) (LL Cool J performs what Michael should have sung. LL Cool J wrote the lyrics and Michael worked on the track)
- All The Truth (5:02) (Bryan sings and Michael does backing vocals)
- Serious Moonlight (4:42) (Only voice of Bryan, Michael didn't want to sing on it)
- Deep In The Night (Full Vocal) maybe doesn't exist
- House Groove (Instrumental Track not accepted by Michael)
- She Got It (7:20 version)
- Work That Body (7:04 version)

- Call It Off
- Garbage
- Homeless Bound
- Bubbles
- It
- The Choice
- Fever
- Stay
- Pressure
- The Verdict
- Son of Thriller (3:06) It's a remix, but... i want hear :D

I’m certainly forgetting some !
 
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