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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Fuzball said:
I was reading through the tax court memo. Could it be, that the songs w/ full vocals that are according to Doelp not in a releasable state, the very ones John Barnes had talked about? Barnes said some of his work wasn't transfered entirely on to tape.



The fact we begin with is that Jackson’s vault held 7,000 to 10,000 pieces of tape. The Estate called an entirely credible witness, John Doelp, whose job was to go through these snippets and figure out what was there. Doelp was a longtime employee with Sony and has worked in several capacities including marketing, finance, and artist-and-repertoire (finding talent).

While he was running the marketing-and-sales department, he had himself worked with Jackson. Yet Doelp found only 2 completed songs in nearly finished form that could be released, and another 25-30 with full vocals (some of which couldn’t be released).

Since Jackson’s death, the Estate has released 21 songs and confirmed the
existence of 62 other songs that have not been released and that won’t be because they are not of commercial quality.

We also find that, apart from the two songs that were in nearly finished form, the remainder needed considerable work to bring them up to commercial quality. We suspect that if the Estate had pressed the point, their unfinished character would have meant an allocation of some of their value to the Estate’s own efforts instead of their value as of the date of
Jackson’s death.

Though the songs were scattered among 7,000-10,000 pieces of tape, the
songs were there. There were at least 83 of them, because the Estate released
after Jackson’s death and confirmed another.​
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My curiosity is the 2 songs, and whether or not we already know them.
 
Two new snippets are floating around: an HQ snippet of an untitled Thriller era demo (allegedly titled “Tonight”) and what sounds like a seminar recording of “Crack Kills.”

Both sound pretty legit to my ears.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Two new snippets are floating around: an HQ snippet of an untitled Thriller era demo (allegedly titled “Tonight”) and what sounds like a seminar recording of “Crack Kills.”

Both sound pretty legit to my ears.
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Any link? Not finding anything on YT. I've never heard about a demo called Tonight.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Two new snippets are floating around: an HQ snippet of an untitled Thriller era demo (allegedly titled “Tonight”) and what sounds like a seminar recording of “Crack Kills.”

Both sound pretty legit to my ears.
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Did they play Crack Kills in any seminar?
 
AlwaysThere said:
Two new snippets are floating around: an HQ snippet of an untitled Thriller era demo (allegedly titled “Tonight”) and what sounds like a seminar recording of “Crack Kills.”

Both sound pretty legit to my ears.
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Are you able to tell us the length of both snippets? That's big if true.

Hopefully they're really legit and not just well-made A.Is. It's a scary time we live in that those are becoming harder and harder to distinguish.
 
I genuinely don’t know the rules about sharing stuff like this anymore, so if this goes against anything I apologize! Also for the record, I didn’t leak these—they’re public on another site.

“Crack Kills” sounds legit and even partially matches the handwritten lyrics we’ve had for years (“It’s such a loser!”). “Tonight” could be really good AI, it’s hard to tell.

 
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AlwaysThere said:
I genuinely don’t know the rules about sharing stuff like this anymore, so if this goes against anything I apologize! Also for the record, I didn’t leak these—they’re public on another site.

“Crack Kills” sounds legit and even partially matches the handwritten lyrics we’ve had for years (“It’s such a loser!”). “Tonight” could be really good AI, it’s hard to tell.

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They both super short but the Crack Kills snippet definitely sounds legit. Thanks for sharing!
 
AlwaysThere said:
I genuinely don’t know the rules about sharing stuff like this anymore, so if this goes against anything I apologize! Also for the record, I didn’t leak these—they’re public on another site.

“Crack Kills” sounds legit and even partially matches the handwritten lyrics we’ve had for years (“It’s such a loser!”). “Tonight” could be really good AI, it’s hard to tell.

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Thanks for sharing mate. I think you're right, although the snippets are short, they sound legit to me too. Great find man
 
AlwaysThere said:
I genuinely don’t know the rules about sharing stuff like this anymore, so if this goes against anything I apologize! Also for the record, I didn’t leak these—they’re public on another site.

“Crack Kills” sounds legit and even partially matches the handwritten lyrics we’ve had for years (“It’s such a loser!”). “Tonight” could be really good AI, it’s hard to tell.

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Thanks for sharing those! Fingers crossed that more of those will surface...
 
smoothvillain said:
Not enough Michael vocals on this tape to justify that price. We shall see.
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There were no takers for this auction or for the album Thriller and mittens from Bad. Extended by 14 days..
Damn those gloves, I would wear them myself 😄 I loved Michael's stylish ones 😍
 
AlwaysThere said:
I genuinely don’t know the rules about sharing stuff like this anymore, so if this goes against anything I apologize! Also for the record, I didn’t leak these—they’re public on another site.

“Crack Kills” sounds legit and even partially matches the handwritten lyrics we’ve had for years (“It’s such a loser!”). “Tonight” could be really good AI, it’s hard to tell.

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Thanks for sharing.

We've never heard of any song title called "Tonight", so I'm really not sure what to think of that snippet.

Crack Kills might be legit. Sounds like it could have great potential. But both snippets are too short. Where are these coming from?
 
I’m not gonna lie, that Crack Kills snippet sounds quite legit, the vocals don’t sound AI in the slightest and it sounds so, SO good
 
The links aren't loading for me either. Whoever uploads those snippets on Youtube or Vocaroo it'll be much appreciated.
 
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