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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Saka21 said:
It's funny how this thread is called "Let's End the Confusion Behind MJ's Unreleased Tracks," yet people are still lying, spreading misinformation, or just adding to the confusion. Even users who are usually credible and seen as trustworthy have differing opinions on these leaks. How do you guys expect to end the confusion like this? I don't even know what to believe anymore lol.
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Agreed, it would be really cool if we could interact respectfully and without a lot of confusion here. Nothing against a joke here and there but it's getting really cluttered and therefore annoying 🙃
 
kai said:
Since the songs have leaked now…


This whole fiasco has once again proven that the majority of these so-called "leak kids" believe anything they hear—and that they have no real clue.


Remember when the Lovely Way to Go snippet leaked? Everyone instantly dismissed it as fake and pointed fingers at the guy who leaked it.


Funny how so many people blindly believed me when I said, "it's AI," instead of trusting their own ears. Even those who attended multiple seminars—who had heard the song several times—preferred to believe it was artificial.


Lord Jackson is by far the funniest of them all. Dude attended almost every seminar, yet he was out there loudly spreading nonsense about me and my so-called "fakery." The irony is absolutely hilarious.


When someone leaked a snippet of Men in Black, a source asked me to upload a second AI-generated snippet to divert attention from it. The exact same strategy our beloved Admin (@Beano Wild ) used a year ago with GYWOOM—except he was just a kid and therefor a whole different human-being back then, so I guess that makes it okay.


Both of these songs come from DAT tapes. Yes, the Streetwalker drums sound similar to BJ—I noticed that myself when I first heard the files—but it’s not some fan mix. It's just a natural similarity. Anyone with real experience in this fandom, or at least a decent ear, can recognize the authenticity of the track. Meanwhile, kids are out here saying it "sounds like a 30-minute FL Studio mix." You have something completely real right in front of you, but you can't see it because you have no clue.


And now, let's talk credibility. When I sent short snippets to @AdeZ , I was warned beforehand that he’d claim they were fake and just hoard the clips. And guess what? That’s exactly what happened. Bro had the real deal right in front of him, but instead of acknowledging it, he went, "Umm, no, it's fake... you're a scammer." If that’s not scummy, I don’t know what is. But hey, these people can always hide behind their usernames.


Strange how the people I supposedly scammed never seem to have anything to say. Maybe—just maybe—you should start using your brains.

And now enjoy the leaks folks.
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You and everyone else who takes part in this shit are absolute clowns, don't try to lecture people about not knowing whether something is real when you guys are the reason that the fan community is in this state.
 
Imma just, post this hear lol. I pitched the audio up 0.25 to match Streetwalker ‘88 for hearing pleasure lol. I’m definitely not gonna be able to sleep now lol

 
innuendo141 said:
TBH fans have created this issue, specifically the ones that create and upload shit. We were all up in arms about the fake tracks on Michael, and now we can't even enjoy when something new leaks because we can't tell if it's real or not because of AI.

AI isnt the issue, it's the attention seeking clowns that have used it for their own ego and benefit that have now ruined hearing a new MJ leak. Clowns.

Edit: spelling
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I agree. When a fan manipulates and alters a real track, it creates confusion among everyone. Remember that MIB snippet that leaked last week? It had AI vocals mixed in with the original track, which only adds to the confusion.
 
threepea11 said:
Imma just, post this hear lol. I pitched the audio up 0.25 to match Streetwalker ‘88 for hearing pleasure lol. I’m definitely not gonna be able to sleep now lol

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It's truly amazing that we can finally hear this, it's a gem! I honestly thought this would never be leaked in high quality. I always found Bill Botrell’s mix to be too punchy and loud, while the demo felt too incomplete for my taste. So, this really is the perfect mix for me to enjoy.
 
Hollywood_Tonight said:
It's truly amazing that we can finally hear this, it's a gem! I honestly thought this would never be leaked in high quality. I always found Bill Botrell’s mix to be too punchy and loud, while the demo felt too incomplete for my taste. So, this really is the perfect mix for me to enjoy.
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Bottrell’s has some good in it though, probably because it’s fully complete. The ‘87 version wasn’t fully mixed by Quincy yet, it was basically a Swedien mix
 
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
 
kai said:
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
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I don’t blame you for that. You probably paid a lot for this, or traded a lot for it, so naturally ofc you wanted to. Well, atleast it got out, idk how it did, but it did lol, along with MIB
 
kai said:
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
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I can't follow the logic here at all. Don't pass stuff off as real, it's as simple as that. Ever.
 
kai said:
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
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Absolutely nobody cares that you wanted to keep stuff to yourself (y)
 
It’s strange that the demo is simultaneously less and more complete than this 1987 mix. Where have the strings gone? Is the demo in fact the Quincy and Bruce version, and this mix, along with the official version, the Hayvenhurst recording?
 
kai said:
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
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I suspected this might be the case when the snippets leaked. I was confused why everyone claimed it was fake. To me, it just sounded tampered with.
 
I don't care about Man In Black leaking but my focus is entirely on that Westlake mix of Streetwalker

Actually surreal that it leaked in HQ, I thought that distorted ass leak from 2013 would be the only way we'd ever get to hear that version. Overall Streetwalker has never been an outtake that impressed me much but this version is still a step-up from the version MJ ended up releasing—the horns on that version simply ruins the song for me. I wish MJ had worked on finishing this mix instead of having Bill Bottrell make a whole mix from the ground-up, there are still parts here that sound dull but it has potential.

And those new ad-libs near the end of the song is just 👌
 
Gluepix said:
You’re very much scummy for that.
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totally.. the amount of damage is immense.
AdeZ said:
Only if it was the real deal you’d have a valid point
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thanks for the confirmation.
btw. dunno what deleting discord has to do with anything. I am just tired of discord. But ok, if it fits the narrative its fine for me.
 
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AdeZ said:
Only if it was the real deal you’d have a valid point, it’s not and I refuse to change my stance on it. Don’t know where you (and only you) hear these things from when I rarely talk to people from the community. Also the fact you deleted the account you messaged me on is hilarious.


I’ve been coming across AI hackjobs the last few months, not my first time. People recreating stuff + using isolations from LQ recordings and passing them through models to synthesize MJ’s voice. Then proceeding to pass it off as the real deal. I came across a poorly done one of an unleaked track which I actually do have. Although poorly done, it had some accuracies which I found quite jarring because how would they know what the track actually sounded like when it isn’t even leaked (yet)? This MIB is much better than what I came across though.

I’ve given my two cents on this all, I think I’m done.
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You're talking about Rocker, right?
 
robotchicken14 said:
Swear nothing at all happens here for months on end and then there’s a 12-hour period of pure madness out of nowhere
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For real. I hadn't checked this forum for 2 days and then suddenly there are 10 new pages on this thread, just what the hell happened lol. Did Lotfi come back and start pissing everyone off again?
 
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