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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

kai said:
yep, i agree that me putting AI on a real thing made the confusion worse. But at the same time i wanted to prevent this file from leaking. So the idea was to let everyone think it's fake so no one is interested anymore. That's all i'm guilty of..
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I suspected this might be the case when the snippets leaked. I was confused why everyone claimed it was fake. To me, it just sounded tampered with.
 
I don't care about Man In Black leaking but my focus is entirely on that Westlake mix of Streetwalker

Actually surreal that it leaked in HQ, I thought that distorted ass leak from 2013 would be the only way we'd ever get to hear that version. Overall Streetwalker has never been an outtake that impressed me much but this version is still a step-up from the version MJ ended up releasing—the horns on that version simply ruins the song for me. I wish MJ had worked on finishing this mix instead of having Bill Bottrell make a whole mix from the ground-up, there are still parts here that sound dull but it has potential.

And those new ad-libs near the end of the song is just 👌
 
Gluepix said:
You’re very much scummy for that.
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totally.. the amount of damage is immense.
AdeZ said:
Only if it was the real deal you’d have a valid point
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thanks for the confirmation.
btw. dunno what deleting discord has to do with anything. I am just tired of discord. But ok, if it fits the narrative its fine for me.
 
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AdeZ said:
Only if it was the real deal you’d have a valid point, it’s not and I refuse to change my stance on it. Don’t know where you (and only you) hear these things from when I rarely talk to people from the community. Also the fact you deleted the account you messaged me on is hilarious.


I’ve been coming across AI hackjobs the last few months, not my first time. People recreating stuff + using isolations from LQ recordings and passing them through models to synthesize MJ’s voice. Then proceeding to pass it off as the real deal. I came across a poorly done one of an unleaked track which I actually do have. Although poorly done, it had some accuracies which I found quite jarring because how would they know what the track actually sounded like when it isn’t even leaked (yet)? This MIB is much better than what I came across though.

I’ve given my two cents on this all, I think I’m done.
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You're talking about Rocker, right?
 
robotchicken14 said:
Swear nothing at all happens here for months on end and then there’s a 12-hour period of pure madness out of nowhere
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For real. I hadn't checked this forum for 2 days and then suddenly there are 10 new pages on this thread, just what the hell happened lol. Did Lotfi come back and start pissing everyone off again?
 
threepea11 said:
So, after analyzing Streetwalker ‘87, the “ooo ooo” part in the beginning and end of Streetwalker ‘88 is still there, but it’s very faint towards the end. There are indeed extra ad-libs not heard before plus some grunts MJ makes after the first chorus that aren’t in the ‘88 mix
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I think the background vocals are also different takes than the '88 mix
 
Hollywood_Tonight said:
I remember several years back you made a song called Angel Love and then claimed it was a real track from the Invincible sessions written by Dr. Freeze.
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I knew that it would be some " a few years back" story. How often do you wanna bring this up.. I exposed this myself before anyone else and it was a canceled project for my old youtube channel. I even posted screenshots of my 2018 convo with Blake (RIP) how we plan to make a "social experiment".

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kai said:
I knew that it would be some " a few years back" story. How often do you wanna bring this up.. I exposed this myself before anyone else and it was a canceled project for my old youtube channel. I even posted screenshots of my 2018 convo with Blake (RIP) how we plan to make a "social experiment".

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So ****** what? It proves my point that this isn’t the first time that you’ve deliberately mislead the community, one way or another.
 
Gluepix said:
So ****** what? It helps prove my point
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And your point is… what exactly? So because I faked a song seven (!) years ago—not just to fool people but to reveal it later—that automatically makes me a scammer? By that logic, every YouTuber who’s ever pulled a prank or done a social experiment is a scammer too. That doesn’t really add up, does it?

Isn’t it weird how you and your friends always recycle the same tired stories to make a point? No one actually cares about the Angel story because I was the one who exposed it in the first place—years ago. It proves absolutely nothing.

Edit: So your point is… it’s not the first time? Yeah, okay—but we're talking about two completely different contexts. But sure, if that’s all you’ve got, lol.
 
Gluepix said:
So ****** what? It proves my point that this isn’t the first time that you’ve deliberately mislead the community, one way or another.
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And nope: it hardly matters that you eventually exposed yourself for having made it; the damage was already done. That song circulated in the community for months, and fooled many into believing it was a legitimate unreleased MJ song. To this very day, there are fans that still believe it’s real. Hell, it was even on the damn Wikipedia page dedicated to compiling MJ’s unreleased songs until I scrubbed it off of there.
 
Gluepix said:
And nope: it hardly matters that you eventually exposed yourself for having made it; the damage was already done. That song circulated in the community for months, and fooled many into believing it was a legitimate unreleased MJ song. To this very day, there are fans that still believe it’s real. Hell, it was even on the damn Wikipedia page dedicated to compiling MJ’s unreleased songs until I scrubbed it off of there.
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Ok if you say so.
 
kai said:
And your point is… what exactly? So because I faked a song seven (!) years ago—not just to fool people but to reveal it later—that automatically makes me a scammer? By that logic, every YouTuber who’s ever pulled a prank or done a social experiment is a scammer too. That doesn’t really add up, does it?

Isn’t it weird how you and your friends always recycle the same tired stories to make a point? No one actually cares about the Angel story because I was the one who exposed it in the first place—years ago. It proves absolutely nothing.

Edit: So your point is… it’s not the first time? Yeah, okay—but we're talking about two completely different contexts. But sure, if that’s all you’ve got, lol.
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If you’re going to reply to me, make sure to at least quote my full comment, you damn Kraut.
 
Gluepix said:
If you’re going to reply to me, make sure to at least quote my full comment, you damn Kraut.
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when i wrote my answer you had not yet edited your post with the full comment, you damn Kraut.
 
One of my favorite moments in this fan community’s history is when the seminar recording of “Men in Black” leaked after decades of it being one of the most sought-after unreleased tracks, and the collective response was, “Mid as hell honestly.”
 
AlwaysThere said:
One of my favorite moments in this fan community’s history is when the seminar recording of “Men in Black” leaked after decades of it being one of the most sought-after unreleased tracks, and the collective response was, “Mid as hell honestly.”
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That’s the vast majority of leaked MJ songs so far, if we’re being completely honest.
 
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