The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

I’m usually against harassing MJ collaborators on social media, but his political posts just make me so sad. We gotta get back to asking him questions.
Indeed, it is kind of pathetic that it’s full of political stuff. That’s why I barely check his account these days… but always love those nuggets of info he reveals on MJ
 
Bills life doesn't exactly revolve around Michael so I wouldn't expect to see postings about him daily unless a question is asked but I hope he follows through with the book or a section on his website discussing the recording dates
 
Bills life doesn't exactly revolve around Michael so I wouldn't expect to see postings about him daily unless a question is asked but I hope he follows through with the book or a section on his website discussing the recording dates
Let's hope it'll be more than just recording dates. I wanna know everything on his uncredited contribution to the Bad era songs.
 
Why do you think so?
The guitar on Who Do You Know sounds too modern to me. I just don't think it would've been on the original recording from 1980 or 81. That's just the sense I get when I hear it.

If I am wrong, well then the song was ahead of its time.
 
Also they could've very well created a new mix from the multitracks. Most of them, when mixed direct from the source, sound as new as the day they were recorded.

Believe me, I've mixed a track that's available on Youtube in mid-tier quality. You wouldn't believe how much clarity it had while I was mixing it.
 
The Michael Jackson Estate is indeed very inconsistant about the mixes put onto their albums. For example, the original versions on the Xscape album use earlier (DYKWYCA/BG etc) or later versions (APWNN etc) without noting which was used and care more about the date of the vocal take recording.

Regarding Who Do You Know, I don‘t have a definite or confirmed answer to what mix was used but I have seen a date from around Late 1981. The mention that it was considered for inclusion on Victory doesn‘t mean that it was even slightly worked on, just that Michael noted the title down for considerations.
 
Regarding Who Do You Know, I don‘t have a definite or confirmed answer to what mix was used but I have seen a date from around Late 1981. The mention that it was considered for inclusion on Victory doesn‘t mean that it was even slightly worked on, just that Michael noted the title down for considerations.
Agreed. Victory was already 15 songs deep by March 1983 and while WDYK was probably a thought during the very beginning of Victory, I don't think any work was done on it since it literally sounds nothing like what's on the album. That song would've stuck out like a sore thumb
 
That song would've stuck out like a sore thumb
This is gonna be such a random tangent but I literally just got this phrase just now lol. I literally had a sore thumb once. Jammed it backwards on vacation, it swelled like a puffer fish. Had to be wrapped and everything.

That was literally the same week as MJ's funeral...
 
Also they could've very well created a new mix from the multitracks. Most of them, when mixed direct from the source, sound as new as the day they were recorded.

Believe me, I've mixed a track that's available on Youtube in mid-tier quality. You wouldn't believe how much clarity it had while I was mixing it.
Which song? if you don’t mind me asking.
 
Agreed. Victory was already 15 songs deep by March 1983 and while WDYK was probably a thought during the very beginning of Victory, I don't think any work was done on it since it literally sounds nothing like what's on the album. That song would've stuck out like a sore thumb
Rather curious how you found out they had 15 songs by March ‘83? Surely recording didn’t properly start until November?

State of Shock being an exception of course to that Nov ‘83 date, using the original demo tracks replacing Freddie’s and MJ’s vocal tracks.
 
Rather curious how you found out they had 15 songs by March ‘83? Surely recording didn’t properly start until November?

State of Shock being an exception of course to that Nov ‘83 date, using the original demo tracks replacing Freddie’s and MJ’s tracks.
At 4:20, they mention having 15 songs selected for Victory with the tour starting that summer. This is from 1983 after the Motown 25 performance.


State of Shocks original recording is in 1982 since it was originally for Thriller but later re-recorded for Victory
 
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