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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Since TYLA fiasco i am not talking too much here just want to let everyone know that it make everything good to know that when you get so damm naive well you get punched in the guts form now own i will not talking too much just be here for time to time
 
Jacksonunreleased said:
Since TYLA fiasco i am not talking too much here just want to let everyone know that it make everything good to know that when you get so damm naive well you get punched in the guts form now own i will not talking too much just be here for time to time
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Good.Nobody cares.

So guys do you think McKellar is an upbeat song or something like Susie? Something tells me that even though it has a dark theme, the song itself is up tempo
 
Are we able to pinpoint exactly the year (or at least the timeframe) "Adore You" was created? Brad Buxer mentioned on an interview that the song along with a few others (a good number of them having actually come from previous years) were made in 2004
But then Mike Smallcombe mentioned 2 times in his "Making Michael" book that it actually originated from Invincible
"...Together they simply created music, and continued to tinker with 'Adore You' 'Hollywood Tonight' 'Shut Up And Dance', all of which came from the Invincible sessions. Pg. 428
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"...'The Way You Love Me', 'Hollywood Tonight', 'Shut Up And Dance', 'Beautiful Girl' and 'Adore You', songs Michael began recording with Brad Buxer and Prince during the Invincible sessions," Pg. 451
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Then I've read somewhere that sometime in 2007/2008 the backing choir was recorded but I couldn't find a source to that. So which is it? I'm not too convinced Brad Buxer himself is 100% reliable when he's shown on multiple occasions to have fuzzy memory when it came to certain songs.
 
NetflexKing said:
Good.Nobody cares.

So guys do you think McKellar is an upbeat song or something like Susie? Something tells me that even though it has a dark theme, the song itself is up tempo
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So good nobody care so guys let's talk about the song

California Grass
 
NetflexKing said:
Good.Nobody cares.

So guys do you think McKellar is an upbeat song or something like Susie? Something tells me that even though it has a dark theme, the song itself is up tempo
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From the lyrics view, it could be as slow as Susie or as fast as We've Had Enough
 
wonderouzmj said:
Yeah..... this is definitely one person 🤣🤣
Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles' eyes combined together can see this is the same person. Smh way too much time on 1 person's hand for sure!
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That's false btw, i can prove it by talking on discord if you'd like.
 
Guys there is song called colorblind and craze can we get info about it
 
ChanceToDance said:
Are we able to pinpoint exactly the year (or at least the timeframe) "Adore You" was created? Brad Buxer mentioned on an interview that the song along with a few others (a good number of them having actually come from previous years) were made in 2004
But then Mike Smallcombe mentioned 2 times in his "Making Michael" book that it actually originated from Invincible


Then I've read somewhere that sometime in 2007/2008 the backing choir was recorded but I couldn't find a source to that. So which is it? I'm not too convinced Brad Buxer himself is 100% reliable when he's shown on multiple occasions to have fuzzy memory when it came to certain songs.
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Yeah I agree he’s said in multiple interviews that the “last songs were the best” in 2004 like in the back, beautiful girl and adore you. This is confusing because in the back was made in 1994 and beautiful girl in 1998. I assume adore you was done for invincible. Also, Buxer’s “last” songs would be from 2007/early 2008. I don’t give much credibility for his memory of dates, that’s why I wish someone would go through their hard drives and record exactly when songs were made, vocals recorded and any other information.
 
NetflexKing said:
Good.Nobody cares.

So guys do you think McKellar is an upbeat song or something like Susie? Something tells me that even though it has a dark theme, the song itself is up tempo
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I was convinced “Innocent Man” was going to be slow and brooding and I was so wrong. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if “Michael McKellar” was a new Jack swing song at this point.
 
Inthestudiowithmj said:
Yeah I agree he’s said in multiple interviews that the “last songs were the best” in 2004 like in the back, beautiful girl and adore you. This is confusing because in the back was made in 1994 and beautiful girl in 1998. I assume adore you was done for invincible. Also, Buxer’s “last” songs would be from 2007/early 2008. I don’t give much credibility for his memory of dates, that’s why I wish someone would go through their hard drives and record exactly when songs were made, vocals recorded and any other information.
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omg brad sandwich im ur biggest fan!!11
 
I've been convinced ever since it was all just rumours in writing that, post-Invincible and once he was feeling better enough after the trial, Michael was working on some of the best music of his career. Some of the most forward-thinking, sonically rich and interesting ideas that he ever came up with.

The more snippets we hear (and I know they are just snippets) the more I am convinced that was the case. I really do think his next LP was going to be an absolute monster, full of very modern hits and new ideas that nobody else was trying in equal measure. I think it'd have been the first major album to properly exploit the Internet age, too. YouTube records would have been set by his new short films... I can only imagine!

This era of his life has been my favourite for years now since it was surrounded in mystery, so negative on the surface, with shining beacons of hope bursting through from the underground.

The material he was working on both excites and upsets me in equal measure, because he was back, but we will never hear it finished. He was the greatest artist to ever live and I don't believe he ever lost even a drop of his songwriting ability. In fact, it might have even got sharper and deeper as he aged. Blows my mind and inspires me to keep going in my life and with my own art.

Really hope we get to hear some full tracks soon.
 
Xeones said:
I've been convinced ever since it was all just rumours in writing that, post-Invincible and once he was feeling better enough after the trial, Michael was working on some of the best music of his career. Some of the most forward-thinking, sonically rich and interesting ideas that he ever came up with.

The more snippets we hear (and I know they are just snippets) the more I am convinced that was the case. I really do think his next LP was going to be an absolute monster, full of very modern hits and new ideas that nobody else was trying in equal measure. I think it'd have been the first major album to properly exploit the Internet age, too. YouTube records would have been set by his new short films... I can only imagine!

This era of his life has been my favourite for years now since it was surrounded in mystery, so negative on the surface, with shining beacons of hope bursting through from the underground.

The material he was working on both excites and upsets me in equal measure, because he was back, but we will never hear it finished. He was the greatest artist to ever live and I don't believe he ever lost even a drop of his songwriting ability. In fact, it might have even got sharper and deeper as he aged. Blows my mind and inspires me to keep going in my life and with my own art.

Really hope we get to hear some full tracks soon.
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That's just wishful thinking, I think. None of that was ever going to happen. Some of us are still falling for MJ's "the best is yet to come" quip 25 years later.
 
Xeones said:
I've been convinced ever since it was all just rumours in writing that, post-Invincible and once he was feeling better enough after the trial, Michael was working on some of the best music of his career. Some of the most forward-thinking, sonically rich and interesting ideas that he ever came up with.

The more snippets we hear (and I know they are just snippets) the more I am convinced that was the case. I really do think his next LP was going to be an absolute monster, full of very modern hits and new ideas that nobody else was trying in equal measure. I think it'd have been the first major album to properly exploit the Internet age, too. YouTube records would have been set by his new short films... I can only imagine!

This era of his life has been my favourite for years now since it was surrounded in mystery, so negative on the surface, with shining beacons of hope bursting through from the underground.

The material he was working on both excites and upsets me in equal measure, because he was back, but we will never hear it finished. He was the greatest artist to ever live and I don't believe he ever lost even a drop of his songwriting ability. In fact, it might have even got sharper and deeper as he aged. Blows my mind and inspires me to keep going in my life and with my own art.

Really hope we get to hear some full tracks soon.
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I have to disagree. I’m yet to hear a single track written or recorded during 2002-2009 that hits the same level of his peak 80s/90s material. The only one that is even remotely close is Beautiful Girl, and that was recorded 1998. All the rest are either mid or just okay. There are a couple good songs like HMH, HT. Just my take.
 
Inthestudiowithmj said:
I have to disagree. I’m yet to hear a single track written or recorded during 2002-2009 that hits the same level of his peak 80s/90s material. The only one that is even remotely close is Beautiful Girl, and that was recorded 1998. All the rest are either mid or just okay. There are a couple good songs like HMH, HT. Just my take.
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"Hold My Hand" was booty
 
I’m of the opinion that Invincible was always going to be MJ’s final album, and that what came after would be nothing more than the occasional single, if that.

He was aware that the songs he wrote himself were no longer commercial enough to warrant being on an album by the ‘King of Pop’, hence Invincible’s reliance on outside material. Stuff like Beautiful Girl and In the Back didn’t make the album for a reason, and was put on TUC in an incomplete state for the same reason. Something like Adore You would likely have suffered the same fate

It’s been said many times but MJ didn’t seem to think that his own, less commercial works warranted much attention, but that getting Will.I.am or RedOne to write him a hit single did. HIStory seemed to get the balance pretty spot on between hit singles and artistic merit, but obviously something had changed by the time Invincible came around, and I personally don’t think anything would have changed if he had lived
 
I do love this thread. I think it's wonderful how we can all hear the same snippets and listen to the same podcasts and draw entirely different conclusions. "This album would have been great" "No it would have been bad / not good enough" "There wasn't gonna be an album" and everything else. It's great to see that Michael's work, even in its most incomplete forms, is still inspiring such deep conversations and a real sense of mystery and excitement.

Whatever you think of literally any unreleased song, rumoured song, potential album, I'm glad we all have each other in these discussions and the pieces of art that inspire them.
 
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