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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

BlackAnon said:
I don't think he recorded it as the song was used in previous California Raisin commercials but he did sneak in a "whoooo!" without Pepsi knowing.

Happy Birthday, Lisa was written by him so it's safe to assume he would record a version.
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Maybe he did do guide vocals for the voice impersonator since he also did some guide dancing for the Raisins, right..?
 
I'm very sure he recorded his own version. That's the same guy from the jacksons (adult mj voice) & the Simpsons non talking voice (also lisa is your birthday) never knew mj had recorded his own version until it 1st leaked. I forgot the guys name kipp something. But I'm sure mj has a grapevine version of his own somewhere! I doubt he was mouthing an impersonators voice here!
 
Will Vinton worked extensively with reference footage, so I wouldn’t be surprised if MJ was filmed for the entire Raisin project, including this spoof interview:


If it was first recorded by MJ, this interview would have been dubbed over by Kipp Lennon after the fact, like the commercial
 
wonderouzmj said:
I'm very sure he recorded his own version. That's the same guy from the jacksons (adult mj voice) & the Simpsons non talking voice (also lisa is your birthday) never knew mj had recorded his own version until it 1st leaked. I forgot the guys name kipp something. But I'm sure mj has a grapevine version of his own somewhere! I doubt he was mouthing an impersonators voice here!
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There's a Michael version of Lisa because he wrote and produced the song for the episode.

Not saying there's not a Michael version of Grapevine but the song was used in earlier commercials so it's not hard to get an impersonator to sing those lyrics. The audio hasn't leaked from Michael's rehearsal footage so we don't know what version he was lipping to or he could've been singing it on the spot for facial movements for the claymation
 
BlackAnon said:
There's a Michael version of Lisa because he wrote and produced the song for the episode.

Not saying there's not a Michael version of Grapevine but the song was used in earlier commercials so it's not hard to get an impersonator to sing those lyrics. The audio hasn't leaked from Michael's rehearsal footage so we don't know what version he was lipping to or he could've been singing it on the spot for facial movements for the claymation
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That's what I was thinking. I just still don't see mj mouthing to someone else for this. He probably didn't know at the time he wasn't legally allowed to use his own voice which was so stupid because I've never seen another artist not use thier own voice for their own representation...
 
wonderouzmj said:
That's what I was thinking. I just still don't see mj mouthing to someone else for this. He probably didn't know at the time he wasn't legally allowed to use his own voice which was so stupid because I've never seen another artist not use thier own voice for their own representation...
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He was in contract with Pepsi at the time and wasn't allowed to use his singing voice on anything unrelated to the company
 
Fuzball said:
That's correct, yet it would be great to know what songs exactly made it to Westlake.
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There's the 11 that made it in, Streetwalker, Groove Of Midnight, and according to Bruce Najar's book, Quincy actually started work on a Westlake version of Chicago 1945 that got abandoned not long after it got started.

Bill, Matt, and John also showed off Don't Be Messin' 'Round, the Pepsi version of Price Of Fame, and Crack Kills at Westlake.
 
SeriousFX said:
There's the 11 that made it in, Streetwalker, Groove Of Midnight, and according to Bruce Najar's book, Quincy actually started work on a Westlake version of Chicago 1945 that got abandoned not long after it got started.

Bill, Matt, and John also showed off Don't Be Messin' 'Round, the Pepsi version of Price Of Fame, and Crack Kills at Westlake.
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can you please see the dm I sent you
 
MJ played a couple songs to Rod Temperton in 2008. Best of Joy for example. Do we know if these alternate lyrics were written by / with Rod Temperton? Maybe thats the reason why they choose to not include those in the 2010 version?!

https://imgur.com/a/2VsjGjd
 
mjfan_93 said:
MJ played a couple songs to Rod Temperton in 2008. Best of Joy for example. Do we know if these alternate lyrics were written by / with Rod Temperton? Maybe thats the reason why they choose to not include those in the 2010 version?!

https://imgur.com/a/2VsjGjd
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I'm pretty sure they were not by Rod. But the vocal quality of these alternate lyrics were significantly different to the overall recording.
 
SeriousFX said:
There's the 11 that made it in, Streetwalker, Groove Of Midnight, and according to Bruce Najar's book, Quincy actually started work on a Westlake version of Chicago 1945 that got abandoned not long after it got started.

Bill, Matt, and John also showed off Don't Be Messin' 'Round, the Pepsi version of Price Of Fame, and Crack Kills at Westlake.
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Where did Brice Najar get that from for his book?? About Quincy doing a version of Chicago 1945?
I thought that was purely a Steve Porcaro & MJ collaboration that was at least vocally finished.

Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round was worked on very early during Westlake by Bruce Swedien and Quincy… Hence he mentioned that track upon Michael’s passing in 2009. But obviously it didn’t develop far.
 
mjfan_93 said:
MJ played a couple songs to Rod Temperton in 2008. Best of Joy for example. Do we know if these alternate lyrics were written by / with Rod Temperton? Maybe thats the reason why they choose to not include those in the 2010 version?!

https://imgur.com/a/2VsjGjd
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Rod was coming up with a new chorus, using MJ’s as a pre-chorus. No clue how far it got, but MJ never recorded it.
 
mjfan_93 said:
MJ played a couple songs to Rod Temperton in 2008. Best of Joy for example. Do we know if these alternate lyrics were written by / with Rod Temperton? Maybe thats the reason why they choose to not include those in the 2010 version?!

https://imgur.com/a/2VsjGjd
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Not sure but I remember Michael Prince saying Rod had a CD of the song that he put it in his computer, made a splice between the first chorus and the 2nd verse and was experimenting with a new chorus, using MJ chorus as a pre-chorus
 
BlackAnon said:
Not sure but I remember Michael Prince saying Rod had a CD of the song that he put it in his computer, made a splice between the first chorus and the 2nd verse and was experimenting with a new chorus, using MJ chorus as a pre-chorus
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What’s the source on that, interview, seminar or other?
 
Can someone ask @SeriousFX if he blocked me or something for some reason? I sent him a DM days ago and he hasn’t responded and idk if he blocked me for some reason
 
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