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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

ToMi said:
Apparently GOAL already appeared on Skylark's website as early as 2017: https://web.archive.org/web/2017080...iweb/skylark.me___Ghost_Of_Another_Lover.html

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EDIT: I was able to find Skylark and the song's publishing entity (Sputnik Adventure Music Publishers) on ASCAP. Sadly, GOAL is not registered at all. https://www.ascap.com/repertory#/ace/works/publisher/456224/SPUTNIK ADVENTURE MUSIC PUBLISHERS
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This is just baffling to me. Nobody knew MJ worked with this guy, and suddenly he’s co-writer of one of the community’s most sought-after unreleased songs? Insane.
 
SRT99 said:
Speaking of Skylark... https://www.skylark.me/ghost-of-another-lover
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Relistening to the recording of the song that leaked the "hoo!" adlib during the instrumental break is that edited in does anyone know? I think it stands out so strangely in the mix and sounds too high quality sounds like it was taken from STTR. Also i dont think anyone posted it yet but this site has confirmed the year of the track as 1989 at least the initial version.
 
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BlackAnon said:
He could've been working on the melody but on the early song list, Michael did note to "get lyrics from writer"
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Yes could be.. It's weird though, the demo sounds like he either sort of knows the lyrics already or is making them up himself..right?
 
Clay7 said:
Relistening to the recording of the song that leaked the "hoo!" adlib during the instrumental break is that edited in does anyone know? I think it stands out so strangely in the mix and sounds too high quality sounds like it was taken from STTR. Also i dont think anyone posted it yet but this site has confirmed the year of the track as 1989 at least the initial version.
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If I had to guess I'd say the adlib was edited in. The circulated Kingvention recording is severely altered (intro cut and "changed" ending).
 
Clay7 said:
Relistening to the recording of the song that leaked the "hoo!" adlib during the instrumental break is that edited in does anyone know? I think it stands out so strangely in the mix and sounds too high quality sounds like it was taken from STTR. Also i dont think anyone posted it yet but this site has confirmed the year of the track as 1989 at least the initial version.
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I remember some fan posting a while back that that was actually their phone alert going off (which they'd set to 'hoo') or something like that.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Is there a source for “Edgar Allan Poe” existing?
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Not sure if the song exists but Michael expressed how excited he was to film "The Nightmares of Edgar Allan Poe". The movie was to revolve around the characters from Poe's works that would come back to haunt him in his last days. The project was scheduled to film in Spring of 2000 but abandoned due to Sony pressuring Michael to finish Invincible.
 
BlackAnon said:
Not sure if the song exists but Michael expressed how excited he was to film "The Nightmares of Edgar Allan Poe". The movie was to revolve around the characters from Poe's works that would come back to haunt him in his last days. The project was scheduled to film in Spring of 2000 but abandoned due to Sony pressuring Michael to finish Invincible.
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It was abandoned because MJ couldn’t secure financing for it.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
That's a tough question my friend.

Probably leaning more towards Abortion Papers, I really like the song and I love the way Mike bites into the hook "signing your name against the word of God" if Mike had released the song I think he'd have called it "Signing Your Name" or something similar.

I really like Turning Me Off though, I love the unusual way he sings "Turning me OFF" it sounds so strange in a good way. It reminds of the Smooth Criminal demo were he's singing "Annie are you okay" a bit weirdly because he's experimenting with it

I keep singing "Turning Me Off, Badly" my girlfriend isn't happy, but it's stuck in my head
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I agree with your mate! I especially think it was very bold of Michael to tackle that subject matter in Abortion Paper.

Turning me on the other hand, thrives on its “weirdness”, in a lack of better words. The chorus is definitely a highlight. The bridge also sticks out to me because it’s very reminiscent of Queen and Freddie hehe.
 
Clay7 said:
Relistening to the recording of the song that leaked the "hoo!" adlib during the instrumental break is that edited in does anyone know? I think it stands out so strangely in the mix and sounds too high quality sounds like it was taken from STTR. Also i dont think anyone posted it yet but this site has confirmed the year of the track as 1989 at least the initial version.
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It was edited in, to track whoever sent his version.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
This is just that 2006 Interview Music Looped. Not what became "Fly Girl" but a different sample played.
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TBH Fly Girl is also basically the instrumental played in the interview looped. So I don't expect"Still The King" to be any different.
Also I'm pretty sure that's not the correct title.
 
Soldier of Love said:
The Jacksons Victory and the Dynamite album were both being recorded simultaneously at Can-Am and Soundcastle with the same team of engineers. The same is true for Janet's song Don't Stand Another Chance from Dream Street. All of the Jackson brothers (except Randy) sang background vocals on the track. I think DSAC was actually John Barnes' first collaboration with the Jackson family. I also wondered if some of the songs on Dynamite were considered for Victory, and vice versa. But then again, Jermaine's involvement in the Victory album didn't occur until late during the process. In fact, Torture is his only contribution to Victory, and that song was originally meant to be a duet with Michael and Jackie. Jermaine didn't record his vocals until at least March 1984 (according to a newspaper or magazine clipping). By that time, he was practically finished with the Dynamite album, so I think it's pretty unlikely that Dynamite had any Victory outtakes.

On a side note, Jermaine also produced a song called All We Have is Love that was supposed to be a duet with Janet. Record label interference caused it to be scrapped, and it was given to Howard Johnson (without his knowledge). The song almost ended up on Dream Street, as Janet mentioned in a magazine interview. I'd love to hear the version with Janet. I wonder if Bill has a mix of the song with Janet and Jermaine's vocals, and if he has the session dates for DSAC.

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Incidentally, Jimmy Jam and Lewis were working with Howard in this period. They were executive producers on Johnson's album The Vision, which included this song, produced by Jermaine.
 
Soldier of Love said:
The Jacksons Victory and the Dynamite album were both being recorded simultaneously at Can-Am and Soundcastle with the same team of engineers. The same is true for Janet's song Don't Stand Another Chance from Dream Street. All of the Jackson brothers (except Randy) sang background vocals on the track. I think DSAC was actually John Barnes' first collaboration with the Jackson family. I also wondered if some of the songs on Dynamite were considered for Victory, and vice versa. But then again, Jermaine's involvement in the Victory album didn't occur until late during the process. In fact, Torture is his only contribution to Victory, and that song was originally meant to be a duet with Michael and Jackie. Jermaine didn't record his vocals until at least March 1984 (according to a newspaper or magazine clipping). By that time, he was practically finished with the Dynamite album, so I think it's pretty unlikely that Dynamite had any Victory outtakes.

On a side note, Jermaine also produced a song called All We Have is Love that was supposed to be a duet with Janet. Record label interference caused it to be scrapped, and it was given to Howard Johnson (without his knowledge). The song almost ended up on Dream Street, as Janet mentioned in a magazine interview. I'd love to hear the version with Janet. I wonder if Bill has a mix of the song with Janet and Jermaine's vocals, and if he has the session dates for DSAC.

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Jermaine also backround vocal for Wait, One More Chance. Also background vocal and co-produced in The Hurt.

It's unlikely that any of the songs on Jermaine's album were planned for Victory. Each album had its own set of producers, and both albums were produced by different labels (Epic / Arista).
 
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