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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

someplace_else said:
Well, the whole wardrobe looks kinda cheap, the fabric of the clothes is way too thin etc. - that's a fact and something they could have done better. It always depends on what's important to you in movies, so the complaint is justified.

Will it annoy me? Yes. But... I still think the movie will be great.
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yeah i think overall it'll just be fine but i wanted more for Michael but as I say above - its for the fans and they can and should enjoy it regardless of what i or others think x
 
Galactus123 said:
I really hope the movie makes them release other stuff. There wouldn't be better time to release a Victory Tour concert.
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It always seemed to me that anything involving the brothers get the least amount of attention from the record label, radio (unless you count the Christmas album at the end of the year), media, & the general public.
 
applešŸŽ said:
It kinda does because if it flops they're definitely not releasing part 2.
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I hate to be the one to tell you this, but... they don't want to acknowledge the allegations. They're too afraid. They don't want to release "part 2", that's just something they made up to make you be quiet.

applešŸŽ said:
On the other hand, you're right that we shouldn't be concerned about it
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Well, if it flops because it's too one-sided, and doesn't generate enough money, then again, that's their fault, not ours. They should have made a movie for grown-ups to begin with.

Markus-MJ said:
Of course it is important to all fans that the biopic becomes successful
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Don't put words in my mouth.

The success of this movie is only important to the people who made it. I'm not getting paid a cut of the profits, therefore there's no reason to care.

Markus-MJ said:
who says something else lies it's about the legacy
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Nope. I want for it to be a good movie. If it's not, then it doesn't deserve to be successful.
 
DuranDuran said:
It always seemed to me that anything involving the brothers get the least amount of attention from the record label, radio (unless you count the Christmas album at the end of the year), media, & the general public.
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Maybe if we start calling it the Thriller tour, they'll release it.

R1chard said:
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but... they don't want to acknowledge the allegations. They're too afraid. They don't want to release "part 2", that's just something they made up to make you be quiet.
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We're not asking them to "acknowledge" the allegations... we're asking them to squash them by simply putting the truth out there.
 
About the allegations in the movie: I hope they will show that and tell the whole true story.

The only thing I am afraid of is that there are so many open files on that, but people still fail to simply google it, and even when film fill show that truth it can be viewed by some as ā€œokay itā€™s just a movie why it supposed to be trueā€.
 
etoile 37 said:
Maybe if we start calling it the Thriller tour, they'll release it.
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It's still The Jacksons, no matter what it's called. Maybe they don't want to split the money with the brothers, and there's the Jermaine solo part, so that might be extra for him.

If you go to Youtube, other than a few exceptions, the group songs don't get anywhere where near the same amount of views as Mike solo (post-Motown), not even a Mick Jagger collabo. Which would likely be the same case with a Jacksons home video release. Mike himself ignored the J5 era stuff, other than that medley with the same 4 songs.
 
etoile 37 said:
We're not asking them to "acknowledge" the allegations... we're asking them to squash them by simply putting the truth out there.
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That's the point.

What makes for a good biopic?

Intriguing personality? Check.
Unorthodox life? Check.
Unusual life choices that people want to know more about? Check.
Reclusive, with unanswered questions? Check.
Controversial elements? Check.

On the face if it, MJ is exactly the sort of person that would make for an excellent biopic. All they have to do is grasp the nettle and take on the important questions, and they can't lose.

But they won't do that, because they don't understand what a biopic is. They think it's a 2-hour opportunity to advertise another greatest hits compilation album. Doh.

If somebody brings up the allegations in 2029, we're supposed to be able to say "go away and watch the movie, it will answer all your questions and tell you what you need to know".

If the movie doesn't become the authority on all aspects of MJs life, then there's no point.

Saying "wait to see if we decide to make a sequel" is gonna be awkward and embarrassing as hell.
 
This year would be the best opportunity to publish some because of the biopic hope not the Number ones vinyl will be the only one
 
R1chard said:
Saying "wait to see if we decide to make a sequel" is gonna be awkward and embarrassing as hell.
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Absolutely! They need to announce the second movie by the time the first movie is released and they need to end the first movie in a way that makes it clear there's a second part, or else the reviews will be terrible.

R1chard said:
If somebody brings up the allegations in 2029, we're supposed to be able to say "go away and watch the movie, it will answer all your questions and tell you what you need to know".

If the movie doesn't become the authority on all aspects of MJs life, then there's no point.
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I agree, and that's what I'm really hoping for. Otherwise, what's the point if they don't use this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to finally correct the false narrative that the media has freely created during all those years? They've got one chance to be heard louder than the media now, they'd better not miss it!

R1chard said:
But they won't do that, because they don't understand what a biopic is. They think it's a 2-hour opportunity to advertise another greatest hits compilation album. Doh.
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It's too early to say whether they understand what a biopic is or not, we haven't even seen the biopic yet. Everything seems to indicate that the first version of the script included the 1993 allegations. I hope they will still find some way to include 1993, but if they can't, then there's really no reason to think they won't cover the 2005 trial. It would just look ridiculous to make a movie on half of his life and still leave us with no proper biopic for the whole story.
 
I want the biopic to be successful but of course, a movie that doesn't touch on the Elephant in the Room (the allegations) is just a disservice on Michael, aimed at putting him in a worse position with the general public opinion than before.

I understand that Lionsgate and Universal are interested in their own profits first, but a biopic on Michael Jackson that doesn't go past the "shiny" era (80s) is a recipe for disaster and i'm sure they are aware of that. teasing a second movie without delivering only give more ammonition to press and critics with anti MJ bias to tear the movie, and his image, apart all over again. and if LN3 or any other guilters bullshit product tries to exploit the attention the biopic gets it will position itself as the thing to truly watch to get real answers on MJ. I know the estate doesn't see Michael as anything but a cash cow but i'm sure at least them understand how *that* approach damages the cash cow and all its future projects.
 
Zizzistar said:
I want the biopic to be successful but of course, a movie that doesn't touch on the Elephant in the Room (the allegations) is just a disservice on Michael, aimed at putting him in a worse position with the general public opinion than before.
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The allegations need to be in the movie they need to prove his innocence once and for all
 
SmoothCriminal1984 said:
The allegations need to be in the movie they need to prove his innocence once and for all
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as I said once, i don't believe the rumored rewriting had anything to do with Chandlers. more with the Cascios and the blackmailing they have been doing on the estate. they are currently in litigation to lift the arbitration rule and go public with allegations. so you have to add that to the already troublesome scenario that prospects for this biopic
 
Zizzistar said:
as I said once, i don't believe the rumored rewriting had anything to do with Chandlers. more with the Cascios and the blackmailing they have been doing on the estate. they are currently in litigation to lift the arbitration rule and go public with allegations. so you have to add that to the already troublesome scenario that prospects for this biopic
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But are the estate gonna fight them in court??
 
SmoothCriminal1984 said:
What does that mean?
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the estate is aiming for the judge to arbitrate in favor of reinforcing the settlement the estate did with the cascio, their life story rights in exchange of the payments the cascio received since 2020 before the decided to threaten to go public with allegations after the last payment in 2024.

my guess is that they wanted to go public so to join Safecheck and Robbbson allegations, that as we know, are aiming for 400M$.
 
Zizzistar said:
I know the estate doesn't see Michael as anything but a cash cow but i'm sure at least them understand how *that* approach damages the cash cow and all its future projects.
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now that I think about it, the estate couldn't even bother to say anything and clear the air about those misleading Epstein photos. and was back on social media posting the usual low effort stuff the day after like nothing happened. so yeah, maybe i'm putting too much trust into them
 
Zizzistar said:
now that I think about it, the estate couldn't even bother to say anything and clear the air about those misleading Epstein photos. and was back on social media posting the usual low effort stuff the day after like nothing happened. so yeah, maybe i'm putting too much trust into them
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The estate don't care bout Mike period
 
Zizzistar said:
as I said once, i don't believe the rumored rewriting had anything to do with Chandlers. more with the Cascios and the blackmailing they have been doing on the estate. they are currently in litigation to lift the arbitration rule and go public with allegations. so you have to add that to the already troublesome scenario that prospects for this biopic
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That should actually give them even more reason to tackle the allegations, not remove them.
 
Zizzistar said:
the estate is aiming for the judge to arbitrate in favor of reinforcing the settlement the estate did with the cascio, their life story rights in exchange of the payments the cascio received since 2020 before the decided to threaten to go public with allegations after the last payment in 2024.

my guess is that they wanted to go public so to join Safecheck and Robbbson allegations, that as we know, are aiming for 400M$.
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I'm sorry to go off tracks, but where in the process are we with Safecheck and Robbson with their claims? Is that thing still open??

It would be absolutely disastrous if the Cascios went public at the time when the biopic is about to rock the screens.
Damn, I am still bothered by the Cascios... I can't even find words...
 
Billie Jean 78 said:
I'm sorry to go off tracks, but where in the process are we with Safecheck and Robbson with their claims? Is that thing still open??

It would be absolutely disastrous if the Cascios went public at the time when the biopic is about to rock the screens.
Damn, I am still bothered by the Cascios... I can't even find words...
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i mean, we should have expected that honestly. the LN team was actively going around recruiting potential new accusers remember? they tried with many men who knew Michael as kids and we literally have proof of that.
 
Billie Jean 78 said:
I'm sorry to go off tracks, but where in the process are we with Safecheck and Robbson with their claims? Is that thing still open?? [...]
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Haven't been following this for a while so I don't know if it's been finalised but the last thing I saw was this


@andjustice4some

"In the joint filing for the Robson/Safechuck case, the proposed trial date is October 11, 2027."
https://twitter.com/x/status/1976081631229477329
 
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