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Cardiff 1992 seems to be quite unique

An audio recording of this show has been available for a few years now.
 
MJbr2 said:
An audio recording of this show has been available for a few years now.
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Yes, but it is cut exactly at the point where the band supposedly performed the two songs. I’d say it is not unlikely that they were performed.
 
WolfMJJ said:
been waiting all my life to see that bro. Surely on the lead up to the Biopic the estate releases some never seen before footage?
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I honestly doubt that. Also we are not sure if it did happen. He did reharse RTT for the Dangerous Tour but it was never added to the setlist. Unless it was added eventually for some concerts, which is weird since Michael was a perfectionist and wouldn't perform something without the attention to details.
 
dam2040 said:
Yeah, I'm almost certain this is fake.

The blue TWYMMF shirt is a different material on the tour:

He's wearing the usual tour attire here from Cardiff:

The J5 medley would be next after that photo was taken.

I think this is an edit of a genuine Cardiff photo using AI [and not just to enhance the quality as this person claims].
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Maybe its not TWYMMF shirt. He is still wearing pants from the leotard outfit. Like at Super Bowl. Could be fake though.
 
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dam2040 said:
He's wearing the usual tour attire here from Cardiff:

The J5 medley would be next after that photo was taken.
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The point is that right after She’s Out Of My Life, there was a break, due to the heavy rain. So, that is the moment where, according to someone on Reddit (yes, could very well be BS for all we know), the band performed RTT and ITC.

And it could be the moment where Michael went backstage and changed into this shirt. Why he would change? No idea. But I’m just saying it would make sense in terms of timeline.
 
One of MJ’s dancers insists they performed “Remember the Time” at least once, if I’m recalling correctly. That said, I find it extremely convenient that the recording we have cuts off right as those two songs were performed.

I could buy that the band maybe played them as interlude pieces, but if MJ ever took the stage and sang them, we’d know about it for sure.
 
I mean to be fair, if this photograph of Michael performing the J5 Medley in a different outfit, ends up being real, the chance of RTT being performed on tour is a bit higher. It shows that there are things we have never seen before, even 33 years later.

However, even if Eddie Garcia said they did it once on the tour, in front of an audience, I still find it hard to believe that no fan would ever mention it. The only way it would make sense would be if they performed it in Cardiff during that interlude when it was raining.

Since we know that they did a sound check for RTT in Bucharest, and Kevin Dorsey has said that Michael would randomly add the song to the set list at different stages in the tour, I think it’s fair to say that it is possible that they did perform it that night. The same way they did ITC in Toulouse.
 
I don't think its out of the question for that photo to be real and from the J5 Medley. I mean we've had multiple instances of Michael pulling out different outfits in the middle of shows (the Black Jacket in Chile '93, the red jacket in certain '84 shows), so why not here? And as people have pointed out, there was a break right before the medley which could be the perfect excuse to change outfits.

I guess we'll never know unless some other photos or footage surface. That image would imply that there's a performance of "Thriller" with a white shirt on instead of the golden leotard.
 
That could be I'll Be There tho, remember that he wore the black Michael Bush jacket after Darryll part in Bucharest, same thing happened in Glasgow.
 
wonderouzmj said:
"Yes, I do. But I'm not sure if Michael Jackson wanted me to tell you all.
I'll try to talk to him in my dreams and, one day, if he says "yes, tell 'em", I'll do it."

tf man....its been 8 years. WHAT WAS THE REASON!!!???
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This article mentions about the concert what is was like 30 years when he was there and which songs he performed. No mention about RTT or ITC. But an interesting detail about Thriller being in low key and a shorter version than in Wembley the week before:
www.walesonline.co.uk

What Cardiff looked like when Michael Jackson played here 30 years ago

It is hard to believe that it was 30 years ago that Michael Jackson graced the Cardiff Arms Park stage as part of his Dangerous world tour
www.walesonline.co.uk www.walesonline.co.uk
 
john13th said:
This article mentions about the concert what is was like 30 years when he was there and which songs he performed. No mention about RTT or ITC. But an interesting detail about Thriller being in low key and a shorter version than in Wembley the week before:
www.walesonline.co.uk

What Cardiff looked like when Michael Jackson played here 30 years ago

It is hard to believe that it was 30 years ago that Michael Jackson graced the Cardiff Arms Park stage as part of his Dangerous world tour
www.walesonline.co.uk www.walesonline.co.uk
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More “lowkey”…likely the way it was in Bremen a couple of days later, without the coffin and the magic trick and everything.
 
Coming back to this because it's been bugging me lol. There's a strong chance this is AI - other similar pages are also posting "exclusive" tour shots. They've been incredibly accurate but these recent shots are quite clearly AI generated:

Revisiting this Cardiff photo, there's a few oddities - there's a break due to heavy rain but no umbrellas in the crowd? MJs face also looks typical of AI generated versions.
 
dam2040 said:
Coming back to this because it's been bugging me lol. There's a strong chance this is AI - other similar pages are also posting "exclusive" tour shots. They've been incredibly accurate but these recent shots are quite clearly AI generated:

Revisiting this Cardiff photo, there's a few oddities - there's a break due to heavy rain but no umbrellas in the crowd? MJs face also looks typical of AI generated versions.
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Honestly, I was thinking the same thing. Where do all of these new and never-before-seen pictures come from all of a sudden? It struck me as odd.
If AI, some are incredibly well made however. Like the Munich rehearsal ones.
 
dethorro said:
Honestly, I was thinking the same thing. Where do all of these new and never-before-seen pictures come from all of a sudden? It struck me as odd.
If AI, some are incredibly well made however. Like the Munich rehearsal ones.
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Yes. All of a sudden a slew of never before seen photos have appeared and no one can point to the source. I don’t trust anything these days.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
Yes. All of a sudden a slew of never before seen photos have appeared and no one can point to the source. I don’t trust anything these days.
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Honestly, these accounts need to be called out directly, because what @dam2040 is saying makes sense. Some, if not all images appear to be AI generated, yet no one on Instagram seems to realize. Dangerous times honestly.

They are extremely well made though, and besides the São Paulo picture shared above, in which you can clearly tell that Michael’s hair is completely different and unnatural looking in the first picture compared to the others following it, one can’t really tell that the photographs are fake.
 
dethorro said:
Honestly, these accounts need to be called out directly, because what @dam2040 is saying makes sense. Some, if not all images appear to be AI generated, yet no one on Instagram seems to realize. Dangerous times honestly.

They are extremely well made though, and besides the São Paulo picture shared above, in which you can clearly tell that Michael’s hair is completely different and unnatural looking in the first picture compared to the others following it, one can’t really tell that the photographs are fake.
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A dead give away is the crowd on all of these “never before seen” pictures. I wish I could upload my analysis but in all of those pictures the crowd is always blurred out, like some kind of blurry effect. In real pictures taken from the same angles, you can always make out the human shapes, faces, sizes etc, even if the picture is low res.
 
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