The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere · 2026-02-16T14:27:16+0000

Bonvestinel said:
this is unrelated but I just realized there’s a good possibility that in 2010 RedOne approached the Estate in talks of Dancing For Love being a Charity single with a bunch of artists, and the Estate just told him to do We Are The World 25 instead. I’m sure its been speculated before, but I just had the thought now.

For what it’s worth, “Dancing for Love” isn’t confirmed to be the releasable song; it’s just the only title we’re aware of because of the Phillips lawsuit.

That said, that’s a great thought.

Inthestudiowithmj · 2026-02-16T16:56:51+0000

AlwaysThere said:
For what it’s worth, “Dancing for Love” isn’t confirmed to be the releasable song; it’s just the only title we’re aware of because of the Phillips lawsuit.

That said, that’s a great thought.

I bet “Dancing for Love” is the song. RedOne said the song is all about love or something along those lines. I’d love to hear it, even if it’s not that good lmao

AlwaysThere · 2026-02-16T17:11:58+0000

Inthestudiowithmj said:
I bet “Dancing for Love” is the song. RedOne said the song is all about love or something along those lines. I’d love to hear it, even if it’s not that good lmao

It could be, but an MJ song about love is a pretty general statement lmao. It’s just worth pointing out that the title hasn’t been definitively confirmed.

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-16T18:11:56+0000

There’s quite a lot of great songs with little to no vocals or lyrics in them, so I personally still think these songs with only a chorus or one verse are still viable if approached the right way.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-16T18:32:10+0000

mjfp said:
not cut, they just released an earlier version. The electric organ is on the mix done in 1999. Released on The Ultimate Collection was the mix done for Blood On The Dance Floor: HIStory In The Mix in 1997

Buxer said it was cut.

Victorious · 2026-02-16T18:48:47+0000

MsAshley said:
Considering Michael was a virgin at the time (he admits as much in the Glenda Tapes dated just before the Dangerous World Tour), I'm not sure his opinion on sex is all that meaningful.

Maybe the reason he still was a virgin then (if he still was) was because he was after genuine love (and not casual sex/groupies/people who only loved him for his image). That's basically how he explained it himself I guess

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T18:54:21+0000

BlackAnon said:
Buxer said it was cut.

Yeah, iirc ITB on TUC has a fade-out set after mastering.

Victorious · 2026-02-16T18:56:14+0000

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
There’s quite a lot of great songs with little to no vocals or lyrics in them, so I personally still think these songs with only a chorus or one verse are still viable if approached the right way.

I just still don't fully grasp MJ's way of recording tbh
So much demo's with the chorusses and production totally fleshed out and yet the verses are missing..? Even with songs that were candidates for release at one point (Superfly Sister, ITB, MiB, 7 Digits, Innocent Man etc.)

Some say he recorded the chorusses first, so maybe didn't get to the verses yet, but still: one expects there to be more fleshed out scratch vocals/lyrics for those demo's..??

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T19:00:25+0000

Victorious said:
I just still don't fully grasp MJ's way of recording tbh
So much demo's with the chorusses and production totally fleshed out and yet the verses are missing..? Even with songs that were candidates for release at one point (Superfly Sister, ITB, MiB, 7 Digits, Innocent Man etc.)

Some say he recorded the chorusses first, so maybe didn't get to the verses yet, but still: one expects there to be more fleshed out scratch vocals/lyrics for those demo's..??

As for all leaked tracks: almost all of them are WIP daymixes; we have no clue what might have been recorded on actual multitracktapes.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-16T19:39:25+0000

Victorious said:
I just still don't fully grasp MJ's way of recording tbh
So much demo's with the chorusses and production totally fleshed out and yet the verses are missing..? Even with songs that were candidates for release at one point (Superfly Sister, ITB, MiB, 7 Digits, Innocent Man etc.)

Some say he recorded the chorusses first, so maybe didn't get to the verses yet, but still: one expects there to be more fleshed out scratch vocals/lyrics for those demo's..??

The full chorus was the way he worked, if he didn't like the chorus, he'd move on from the song but he would also get side tracked.

"I write all the time. I have so many songs, and another song will come along and beat it out; not that those aren't good enough to release because I am going to do those in the future, but it's just I get more excited about the next one and then the next one" - Michael 1984

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T20:02:21+0000

Billboard, 1984/05/12

BlackAnon · 2026-02-16T20:32:47+0000

Fuzball said:
Billboard, 1984/05/12

#JusticeForVictory

We should've had the unreleased material from this album years ago.

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T20:38:11+0000

BlackAnon said:
#JusticeForVictory

We should've had the unreleased material from this album years ago.

It reads like there are 9 leftovers in a releasable state.

Epic could release an expanded edition of Victory along with a concert dvd/blu-ray this summer. Of course, all brothers (their estate's) have to agree for such step.

michaeljackson.nl · 2026-02-16T20:39:48+0000

Fuzball said:
Billboard, 1984/05/12

The wording of this article seems to imply that Buffalo Bill is finished

Derek1984 · 2026-02-16T20:43:44+0000

michaeljackson.nl said:
The wording of this article seems to imply that Buffalo Bill is finished

This is exactly how I translate this as well.

Bruce Swedien mixed a final version of Buffalo Bill and for some reason, at the last second, the song was pulled from the album.

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T20:51:06+0000

An earlier article (BB, 1984/02/25)

mjfp · 2026-02-16T21:31:53+0000

BlackAnon said:
Buxer said it was cut.

The 99 is mostly just that exact 97 version with the additional overdubs. Mostly the same, so saying „cut“ is theoretically still valid but practically false

AlwaysThere · 2026-02-16T21:37:00+0000

Yeah, I don’t take Buxer saying the overdubs were “cut” literally. They almost certainly just released an early mix.

Derek1984 · 2026-02-16T22:38:39+0000

I just want to know why Be Not Always pushed Buffalo Bill off the Victory album.

SmoothCriminal1995 · 2026-02-16T22:55:20+0000

Derek1984 said:
I just want to know why Be Not Always pushed Buffalo Bill off the Victory album.

Could it be that Mike thought too highly of Buffalo Bill, like he did Liberian Girl, and held onto it for himself. We know he thought it was "going to be a good one"

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-16T22:58:51+0000

Buffalo Bill in the biopic might make more sense than Hot Street or Dream Away actually.

Derek1984 · 2026-02-16T23:15:15+0000

SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Could it be that Mike thought too highly of Buffalo Bill, like he did Liberian Girl, and held onto it for himself. We know he thought it was "going to be a good one"

Maybe but if the brothers put background vocals on BB that means it was close to being on the album.

Derek1984 · 2026-02-16T23:16:43+0000

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Buffalo Bill in the biopic might make more sense than Hot Street or Dream Away actually.

I would not expect any unreleased songs to make the biopic. Only the hits the general audience knows.

Fuzball · 2026-02-16T23:26:05+0000

Derek1984 said:
Maybe but if the brothers put background vocals on BB that means it was close to being on the album.

Maybe the track was too long for the album (symphonic opening according to Bruce Swedien) and Michael opted not to getting it trimmed.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-16T23:41:46+0000

Fuzball said:
It reads like there are 9 leftovers in a releasable state.

Epic could release an expanded edition of Victory along with a concert dvd/blu-ray this summer. Of course, all brothers (their estate's) have to agree for such step.

The brothers songs are definitely finished and ready to go.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-16T23:45:14+0000

AlwaysThere said:
Yeah, I don’t take Buxer saying the overdubs were “cut” literally. They almost certainly just released an early mix.

The Buxer interview was at the end of 2009. He said Michael ultimately chose to cut the part out

AlwaysThere · 2026-02-16T23:46:24+0000

BlackAnon said:
The Buxer interview was at the end of 2009. He said Michael ultimately chose to cut the part out

Oh, I misunderstood—I thought it meant “cut” as in removed for the 2004 box set. Thanks for the clarification!

Derek1984 · 2026-02-17T00:04:35+0000

Fuzball said:
Maybe the track was too long for the album (symphonic opening according to Bruce Swedien) and Michael opted not to getting it trimmed.

Be Not Always is around 5:35 in length. I'd be surprised if BB was much longer than that.

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-17T00:14:49+0000

Derek1984 said:
I would not expect any unreleased songs to make the biopic. Only the hits the general audience knows.

But according to “leaks” Hot Street will be in it?

Derek1984 · 2026-02-17T00:52:21+0000

Fuzball said:
Maybe the track was too long for the album (symphonic opening according to Bruce Swedien) and Michael opted not to getting it trimmed.

I can only think of one reason why Be Not Always made the final cut over Buffalo Bill:

MJ thought it was important for a song like Be Not Always to spread the message of peace on the album.

Otherwise, it makes no sense. Be Not Always is more of a song meant for a concept album. Nothing that would ever top the charts.

The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Community Moderator

Proud Member

Community Moderator

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Community Moderator

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member

Community Moderator

Proud Member

Proud Member

Proud Member