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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

BlackAnon said:
According to Bill, Price of Fame is early 1986 and the Pepsi version is 1987
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recorded in January - February 1986, mixed January 3, 1987. I thought recording dates were known so I just focused on when each mix was actually done, not recorded
 
lotfi said:
Who knows about groove of midnight
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This one’s a mystery. Years ago, an alleged snippet of the vocal session leaked online where MJ is chatting in the recording studio. Matt Forger was looking for it for inclusion on Bad 25 but wasn’t able to find a version with MJ’s vocals; however, some years later, a tape box of Bad era cassettes went up for sale, and one of the tapes was labeled “Groove of Midnight.” It could’ve been Rod’s writers’ demo for all we know; nobody ever followed up.

My personal conspiracy theory is that Rod wouldn’t sign off on its inclusion since he was allegedly butting heads with the estate, so they either told Forger to say it didn’t exist or purposefully hid the tapes prior to archiving to give him plausible deniability.

Or maybe MJ really didn’t record it, and the leaked snippet just captured him ad-libbing the song randomly while recording a different track. Who knows?
 
AlwaysThere said:
This one’s a mystery. Years ago, an alleged snippet of the vocal session leaked online where MJ is chatting in the recording studio. Matt Forger was looking for it for inclusion on Bad 25 but wasn’t able to find a version with MJ’s vocals; however, some years later, a tape box of Bad era cassettes went up for sale, and one of the tapes was labeled “Groove of Midnight.” It could’ve been Rod’s writers’ demo for all we know; nobody ever followed up.

My personal conspiracy theory is that Rod wouldn’t sign off on its inclusion since he was allegedly butting heads with the estate, so they either told Forger to say it didn’t exist or purposefully hid the tapes prior to archiving to give him plausible deniability.

Or maybe MJ really didn’t record it, and the leaked snippet just captured him ad-libbing the song randomly while recording a different track. Who knows?
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My guess is MJ did record Groove of Midnight.

Listen to that brief snippet that leaked. At the beginning for a second, you can hear the song playing. I also doubt MJ and Rod would waste time in a studio to not record the song, even if it was just a quick vocal take. Rod was very organized. I'm sure he had the song ready for MJ to sing.

GOM is probably my holy grail that's in the vault. I understand why it didn't make BAD (not edgy enough), but Rod is very good at creating songs for MJ to sing.

I'd assume Siedah Garrett would know if there is a MJ version.
 
More on Victory left-overs.

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Fuzball said:
The article mentions 5 contributions from Michael. I wonder if Behind the Mask was one of those?
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The Estate mentioned "Who Do You Know" was considered for "Victory" so we can already fill in 4 of the songs. Maybe "The Hurt" is the 5th song? The Estate also said on the same post that Michael shelved WDYK in favor of it.
Michael first wrote and started work on this song in 1980 but was still working on it in February 1982 and considered it as a song for the Thriller album. When it failed to make the cut for “Thriller”, Michael considered it again for The Jacksons’ Victory album but chose to contribute three other songs to that album: “State of Shock”, “Be Not Always” (co-written with his brother Marlon) and “The Hurt” (co-written with his brother Randy, David Paich and Steve Porcaro).
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Derek1984 said:
My guess is MJ did record Groove of Midnight.
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Michael did record "Groove of Midnight." If there's one piece of music that would be perfect for the biopic, it's this one. I don't know which version is on the sold DAT, but there's a cassette from the day "Groove of Midnight" was recorded. It's essentially what you hear in the snippet, except it's the full song.
 
arisenow said:
Michael did record "Groove of Midnight." If there's one piece of music that would be perfect for the biopic, it's this one. I don't know which version is on the sold DAT, but there's a cassette from the day "Groove of Midnight" was recorded. It's essentially what you hear in the snippet, except it's the full song.
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Groove of Midnight would probably be the best thing left in the vault.
 
mjfp said:
recorded in January - February 1986, mixed January 3, 1987. I thought recording dates were known so I just focused on when each mix was actually done, not recorded
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Okay your post mentioned recording dates not mixing so that’s why I mentioned it
 
arisenow said:
Michael did record "Groove of Midnight." If there's one piece of music that would be perfect for the biopic, it's this one. I don't know which version is on the sold DAT, but there's a cassette from the day "Groove of Midnight" was recorded. It's essentially what you hear in the snippet, except it's the full song.
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Not to be that guy… but are you still willing to post that rip of “Unknown” 👀
 
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