The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T00:25:12+0000

SmoothGangsta said:
The brothers probably sing most of it, MJ on adlibs and chorus. Lol.

Michael sings on it but mumbles the verses with a few partial lyrics

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-19T00:38:12+0000

BlackAnon said:
Michael sings on it but mumbles the verses with a few partial lyrics

Then call the brothers to sing the verses and then leave him on the hook, and that’s the song.

Fuzball · 2026-02-19T00:42:57+0000

Cash Box, 04/28/1984

Derek1984 · 2026-02-19T00:48:39+0000

Fuzball said:
Cash Box, 04/28/1984

Buffalo Bill beats Billie Jean!!

Derek1984 · 2026-02-19T00:50:05+0000

So how did Buffalo Bill not make the Victory album? These articles have me spinning.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:02:54+0000

Derek1984 said:
So how did Buffalo Bill not make the Victory album? These articles have me spinning.

He sang the chorus’. There probably is a guide vocal on the Original master. - John Barnes

Derek1984 · 2026-02-19T01:04:32+0000

Fuzball said:
The article mentions 5 contributions from Michael. I wonder if Behind the Mask was one of those?

Not sure how reliable this list is for Victory:

Doing Dirty (Michael Jackson, Marlon Jackson)
Far Far Away (Michael Jackson)
Liberian Girl (Michael Jackson)
Born to Love (Michael Jackson)
Still in Love with You (Michael Jackson)
Tender (Michael Jackson)
Buffalo Bill (Michael Jackson)

Derek1984 · 2026-02-19T01:05:27+0000

BlackAnon said:
He sang the chorus’. There probably is a guide vocal on the Original master. - John Barnes

But it seems the track was further developed after his work with John Barnes. There's too much evidence now to support this.

SeriousFX · 2026-02-19T01:07:52+0000

mjfp said:
.The instrumental doesn‘t exist on multi-tracks. MJ was sent the instrumental as simple 2-track audio and simply overdubbed his vocals on top. You would probably have to track the multi-tracks down heavily, if they even still exist.

It's lilely the 48trk instrumental multitrack (or was it 24trk/32trk?) is in the hands of Sony, just labelled under Corey Rooney. Given how Iron Mountain works and its drawbacks, my assumption is that it's buried very deep in the facility containing their Epic/Columbia holdings.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:09:43+0000

Derek1984 said:
But it seems the track was further developed after his work with John Barnes. There's too much evidence now to support this.

Possibly tweaking production but nothing vocally.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:11:15+0000

Derek1984 said:
Not sure how reliable this list is for Victory:

Doing Dirty (Michael Jackson, Marlon Jackson)
Far Far Away (Michael Jackson)
Liberian Girl (Michael Jackson)
Born to Love (Michael Jackson)
Still in Love with You (Michael Jackson)
Tender (Michael Jackson)
Buffalo Bill (Michael Jackson)

Still In Love is written by Marlon and Tender is written by Jackie I believe.

The 5 songs were State of Shock, Buffalo Bill, Be Not Always, Liberian Girl and possibly Dream Away.

SeriousFX · 2026-02-19T01:13:56+0000

BlackAnon said:
Still In Love is written by Marlon and Tender is written by Jackie I believe.

The 5 songs were State of Shock, Buffalo Bill, Be Not Always, Liberian Girl and possibly Dream Away.

There's also Alright Now and (maybe) You're The One but I think those were discarded early into Victory's production.

SmoothGangsta · 2026-02-19T01:15:56+0000

I would find it weird for BB to only have mumbled vocals after being talked about so much. Who knows.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:16:54+0000

SmoothGangsta said:
I would find it weird for BB to only have mumbled vocals after being talked about so much. Who knows.

No one talks about the vocals or lyrical content, only the big production of it

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:18:53+0000

SeriousFX said:
There's also Alright Now and (maybe) You're The One but I think those were discarded early into Victory's production.

You could add those. I’d say You’re The One is a Victory track as John Barnes confirmed it was for the album.

Fuzball · 2026-02-19T01:20:41+0000

This is interesting. The author must have been impressed by BB so much that even five years later he couldn't forget about it.

The R&B Report, February 1989

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T01:42:51+0000

Fuzball said:
This is interesting. The author must have been impressed by BB so much that even five years later he couldn't forget about it.

The R&B Report, February 1989

The song deserves to be heard in some form. A shame we can’t get a Victory anniversary album. It would be the best place to release it

Derek1984 · 2026-02-19T01:57:52+0000

BlackAnon said:
The song deserves to be heard in some form. A shame we can’t get a Victory anniversary album. It would be the best place to release it

I fear we'll never get to hear outtakes from Destiny, Triumph, and Victory due to the Estate and the brothers.

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-19T02:02:47+0000

Derek1984 said:
Buffalo Bill beats Billie Jean!!

That’s why he’s the GOAT. THE GOAT!

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-19T02:03:18+0000

Also Water is a marvelous 30 seconds of music. Every time I drink H20 I think of it.

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T02:05:05+0000

Derek1984 said:
I fear we'll never get to hear outtakes from Destiny, Triumph, and Victory due to the Estate and the brothers.

Or make a trip to the good ol’ Copyright office

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T02:05:39+0000

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Also Water is a marvelous 30 seconds of music. Every time I drink H20 I think of it.

The whole song repeats itself

Mister_Jay_Tee · 2026-02-19T02:12:33+0000

BlackAnon said:
The whole song repeats itself

30s x3

BlackAnon · 2026-02-19T02:38:12+0000

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
30s x3

Quite literally

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