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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

JamesCMJJ said:
Michael did make a whole soundtrack for the Willy Wonka movie in the 2000s...Could World of Candy be...?
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He put forward 2 solo compositions recorded between 1997 and 2001 for his 2001 solo album of 16 songs - There is no way on earth that he made a whole soundtrack for a film he had absolutely zero ties to.
 
innuendo141 said:
He put forward 2 solo compositions recorded between 1997 and 2001 for his 2001 solo album of 16 songs - There is no way on earth that he made a whole soundtrack for a film he had absolutely zero ties to.
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Pretty sure he was gonna play WIlly
 
JamesCMJJ said:
I mean If you wanna search it, go on ahead
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To cite a source for something you have said? No. Johnny Depp was always Burton's number one choice. If you would like to back up the claim that MJ was to play Willy Wonka, then please do. I don't for a second believe that he recorded an entire soundtrack.

A song or 2 maybe, in early to mid 2003? Absolutely.
 
innuendo141 said:
To cite a source for something you have said? No. Johnny Depp was always Burton's number one choice. If you would like to back up the claim that MJ was to play Willy Wonka, then please do. I don't for a second believe that he recorded an entire soundtrack.

A song or 2 maybe, in early to mid 2003? Absolutely.
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Then don't believe it lmao no one's forcing you to
 
innuendo141 said:
To cite a source for something you have said? No. Johnny Depp was always Burton's number one choice. If you would like to back up the claim that MJ was to play Willy Wonka, then please do. I don't for a second believe that he recorded an entire soundtrack.

A song or 2 maybe, in early to mid 2003? Absolutely.
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Even if he did "create" an entire soundtrack, it would be just the work of his producers. I doubt Michael at that point he composed anything.
 
JamesCMJJ said:
Then don't believe it lmao no one's forcing you to
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Don't believe it
Don't believe it
I said don't
Don't believe it
Yeah don't believe it
I said don't
Don't believe it
Don't believe it
No no, no no, no
Don't believe it, don't you
Don't, don't, don't believe 'em
Don't be what they believe
You da na, da na na
You're stuck on one thing
So don't believe it, all the things that you're told
 
innuendo141 said:
To cite a source for something you have said? No. Johnny Depp was always Burton's number one choice. If you would like to back up the claim that MJ was to play Willy Wonka, then please do. I don't for a second believe that he recorded an entire soundtrack.

A song or 2 maybe, in early to mid 2003? Absolutely.
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Apparently the only source to ever mention this supposed soundtrack is an interview with Marc Schaffel in Randall Sullivan's biography on Michael, "Untouchable: The Strange Life and Tragic Death of Michael Jackson".
Found a source here : https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-jackson-acting-career_n_7656622

No idea whether Schaffel is to be trusted or not though, if Brad Buxer or Michael Prince never talked about it I find it hard to believe.
Maybe people should ask them if they get the chance since they would be the most likely people to have been involved with it.
 
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JamesCMJJ said:
Pretty sure he was gonna play WIlly
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He would have been artistically and physically perfect for the role, and I remember getting through watching that movie in the theater by pretending it was MJ instead of Depp, but sadly, there is no way a big studio would have cast MJ in a major role like that in the 2000's. The financial risk of that decision would have been overwhelming -- not just because of how controversial he was (especially in a movie aimed at children), but also because the studio would have required guarantees regarding his mental and physical health and his capacity to show up on set, and 2000's-era MJ would sadly not have passed that test.
 
alexbism said:
No idea whether Schaffel is to be trusted or not though, if Brad Buxer or Michael Prince never talked about it I find it hard to believe.
Maybe people should ask them if they get the chance since they would be the most likely people to have been involved with it.
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At 1:30:25 Michael Prince briefly mentions that Michael tried very hard to get the Willy Wonka role. He also mentions at some point that MJ did a few songs for The Green Hornet film, so I can’t see why World of Candy couldn’t have been a “pitch” of sorts to Warner Bros for his potential involvement
 
@GYWOOM:
Do you know how finished „Red Eye“ is and when it was recorded? Apparently it was considered for the Michael album. Would love to know if thats true.

Also, as a big fan of ancient egypt I would love to hear more about the song „King Tutankhamun“. Do you know anything about that one?

Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
 
Inthestudiowithmj said:
Based on recent leaks. It really seems like there is nothing of true interest left in the vault. The only material I can think of is the bad era material. Other than that, there’s pretty much nothing
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I don’t think recent leaks should be indicative of anything. There are hundreds of song titles we have absolutely no information about, not to mention the likelihood that we still haven’t learned of every song title in existence.

At the end of the day, we have no idea what remains.
 
One day we'll have heard everything, literally everything.

Even if most of these demos aren't anything special, there's something nice about still getting to hear "new" MJ every once in a while, it's very special, whether through leaks or official releases. It's kinda sad that we're reaching the end of it all, but it is what it is!
 
Tyler446 said:
I heard about that title from znop. Never heard the song itself. He said the track is complete. I'm really not sure if he was trolling or not.
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Who is Znop? Can we trust him? Because saying that without mentioning the name of a collaborator is suspicious.
 
mjfp said:
fyi Brad Sundberg said most good stuff is already out, Michael Prince and Brad Buxer there‘s still enough good releasable material in the vaults
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at least one more acceptable solo album is feasible

1. Chicago 1945
2. Throwin' Your Life Away
3. Hot Street
4. There Must Be More to Life Than This
5. I Was the Loser
6. If You Don't Love Me
7. Serious Effect
8. Dream Away
9. Get Your Weight Off of Me
 
Hot_Street said:
at least one more acceptable solo album is feasible

1. Chicago 1945
2. Throwin' Your Life Away
3. Hot Street
4. There Must Be More to Life Than This
5. I Was the Loser
6. If You Don't Love Me
7. Serious Effect
8. Dream Away
9. Get Your Weight Off of Me
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We know the estate will milk the ultimate collection songs. They are still not available on streaming services. Look at Sunset Driver and the P.Y.T. Demo

These are left from TUC:
Scared of the Moon
We are the world (demo)
We are here to change the world
Cheater
Dangerous (demo)
Monkey Business
Someone put your hand out (1992 release)
On The Line (technically a 1997 release)
Fall again
In the back
Beautiful girl
The way you love me
We’ve had enough

13 songs that they 100% will use on albums or anniversaries
 
Hot_Street said:
at least one more acceptable solo album is feasible

1. Chicago 1945
2. Throwin' Your Life Away
3. Hot Street
4. There Must Be More to Life Than This
5. I Was the Loser
6. If You Don't Love Me
7. Serious Effect
8. Dream Away
9. Get Your Weight Off of Me
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I bet most of the songs that were name checked at the 1993 deposition have full vocals.
 
NetflexKing said:
This year has been crazy.
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2025:

  1. Adore You
  2. Blue Powder
  3. Boy No
  4. Brad Loop
  5. Bump Like This
  6. Changes
  7. Dark Lady/H2O
  8. Garbage
  9. I Love You More
  10. I Was The Loser
  11. Innocent Man
  12. It Don't Matter To Me (Anka Mix)
  13. Light The Way
  14. Man In Black (HQ)
  15. Monster
  16. Neverland Landing
  17. Red Eye
  18. Remember What I Told You (Just Remember)
  19. Rocker
  20. Shut Up And Dance
  21. Speechless (Demo)
  22. Streetwalker (Western Mix) (HQ)
  23. Thank Heaven
  24. Throwin' Your Life Away (HQ)
  25. Time Marches On
  26. Turnin' Me Off
  27. Water
  28. World Of Candy
 
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Saka21 said:
2025:

  1. Adore You
  2. Boy No
  3. Changes
  4. Dark Lady/H2O
  5. Garbage
  6. I Love You More
  7. I Was The Loser
  8. Innocent Man
  9. It Don't Matter To Me (Anka Mix)
  10. Man In Black (HQ)
  11. Monster
  12. Neverland Landing
  13. Red Eye
  14. Remember What I Told You (Just Remember)
  15. Rocker
  16. Shut Up And Dance
  17. Speechless (Demo)
  18. Streetwaler (Western Mix) (HQ)
  19. Thank Heaven
  20. Throwin' Your Life Away (HQ)
  21. Time Marches On
  22. Turnin' Me Off
  23. Water
  24. World Of Candy
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+ Light The Way, Brad Loop, Blue Powder, Bump Like This, and all the snippets smelly shared which apparently includes songs we never heard of

Just the fact we got "Dark Lady" still feels incredibly surreal to me. I'll eat a whole shoe if we get a HQ snippet this year but I'm still hoping it'll happen.
 
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