Associated Press: DA Wants Indictment of Jackson Doctor

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Doctor To Be Prosecuted On Theory Of Gross Negligence, Source Says

POSTED: 1:40 pm EST January 8, 2010
UPDATED: 1:56 pm EST January 8, 2010



LOS ANGELES -- The Associated Press has learned that prosecutors will seek an involuntary manslaughter indictment against Michael Jackson's doctor for the pop star's death.

A law enforcement source says Dr. Conrad Murray will be prosecuted on a theory of gross negligence. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation remains open.

Before an indictment can be sought, the source says the Los Angeles Police Department will follow the formality of presenting the case to the district attorney.

Both agencies have been working on the case along with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency and the California Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement since Jackson died in June.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. ​

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[SIZE=+4]* Manslaughter, Involuntary *[/SIZE]

MANSLAUGHTER, INVOLUNTARY

In order for a person to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter the government must prove that someone was killed as a result of an act by the person;

Second, in the circumstances existing at the time, the person's act either was by its nature dangerous to human life or was done with reckless disregard for human life; and

Third, the person either knew that such conduct was a threat to the lives of others or knew of circumstances that would reasonably cause the person to foresee that such conduct might be a threat to the lives of others.

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[Autumn II]

This is outrageous, but is no surprise. It's the lightest possible charge. I've predicted from the beginning that Murray would probably spend a short while on probation, and then leave the country. He'll be financially set up for life. Just WATCH. He'll probably plead guilty and get probation, and there will be no trial. THIS is the reason why investigations continue to be important. I think there were others involved. Murray can only be charged once for the same crime, but there are others out there. . . .

 

[Maria MJ]

This is outrageous, but is no surprise. It's the lightest possible charge. I've predicted from the beginning that Murray would probably spend a short while on probation, and then leave the country. He'll be financially set up for life. Just WATCH. He'll probably plead guilty and get probation, and there will be no trial. THIS is the reason why investigations continue to be important. I think there were others involved. Murray can only be charged once for the same crime, but there are others out there. . . .

We were expecting that,weren't we?
Could they REALLY be after the others?If this is true,it will restore my broken faith to investigators!

 

[Autumn II]

We were expecting that,weren't we?
Could they REALLY be after the others?If this is true,it will restore my broken faith to investigators!

Yes, we were expecting this. This is the lightest charge possible under the circumstances. I (and others) predicted this as a necessary part of the "plot." That Murray would take the fall, get a light sentence, and be paid off somewhere in the future. Doctors make the best assassins. Except, it's also possible that he will have a bad "accident." He knows too much?

I doubt there is any other "investigation." Police salaries are typically low. If we are right about some theories here, those responsible are among the world's richest people. They have a huge amount of influence in L.A. I'm sure many of the LAPD don't care very much about Michael, anyway. I'd expect that money was thrown at this to make it "go away." Unlimited power can bring about unlimited corruption. I fear that soon, it will be OVER.

 

[goldiee]

Yep. Its all playing out like we said it would. Many of us anyway. They're not even bothering to make it look good. I bet you Murray won't even get a perp walk. He'll be allowed to turn himself in with an attorney beside him, maybe two. No handcuffs. When they formally arrest him, once they take him in, do their process, he'll be home before the end of the day. WATCH.

Once he pleas down, probation, night in the county or whatever, he 'll announce that he's through with medicine, going on to other endeavors in his life, whatever, whatever, and his babies mommas and him, whoever, will all suddenly be aflush with money. Watch.

 

[goldiee]

Yes, we were expecting this. This is the lightest charge possible under the circumstances. I (and others) predicted this as a necessary part of the "plot." That Murray would take the fall, get a light sentence, and be paid off somewhere in the future. Doctors make the best assassins. Except, it's also possible that he will have a bad "accident." He knows too much?

I doubt there is any other "investigation." Police salaries are typically low. If we are right about some theories here, those responsible are among the world's richest people. They have a huge amount of influence in L.A. I'm sure many of the LAPD don't care very much about Michael, anyway. I'd expect that money was thrown at this to make it "go away." Unlimited power can bring about unlimited corruption. I fear that soon, it will be OVER.

As long as he doesn't do a LHO, he shouldn't have any accidents, as long as he keeps his mouth closed. If he sounds like he's about to squeal, then he'll have an accident that gets blamed on mysterious "fans" of Michael.

For the LAPD, I still find that Chief's sudden retirement very interesting. Wonder what went on behind the scenes.

 

[Maria MJ]

I am too afraid this is exactly what's going to happen.
And yes,I was positive that Murrays finances would flourish all of a sudden or he would end up dead somewhere.

 

[dirtydiana27]

Yes, we were expecting this. This is the lightest charge possible under the circumstances. I (and others) predicted this as a necessary part of the "plot." That Murray would take the fall, get a light sentence, and be paid off somewhere in the future. Doctors make the best assassins. Except, it's also possible that he will have a bad "accident." He knows too much?

I doubt there is any other "investigation." Police salaries are typically low. If we are right about some theories here, those responsible are among the world's richest people. They have a huge amount of influence in L.A. I'm sure many of the LAPD don't care very much about Michael, anyway. I'd expect that money was thrown at this to make it "go away." Unlimited power can bring about unlimited corruption. I fear that soon, it will be OVER.

Our worst fears if this leak is true. That offshore account and that beach in the Caymans--just waiting for Murray!!! And the REAL murderers will get away with murder. I see what you see Vic, but I hope with all my heart that all of Michael's loyal and dedicated fans will continue to research and investigate the circumstances of his murder--and pursue true justice for him no matter how long it takes.

 

[Maria MJ]

Our worst fears if this leak is true. That offshore account and that beach in the Caymans--just waiting for Murray!!! And the REAL murderers will get away with murder. I see what you see Vic, but I hope with all my heart that all of Michael's loyal and dedicated fans will continue to research and investigate the circumstances of his murder--and pursue true justice for him no matter how long it takes.

Giving up on Michael is not an option for me.
I'll fight for justice if I'm the last person on earth.

 

[KingOfPop1]

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Prosecutors Mulling More Serious Charge Against Michael Jackson's Doctor, Source Says

FOXNews.com

Prosecutors are debating whether to charge Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, with involuntary manslaughter or a more serious charge, a law enforcement source told FoxNews.com on Friday.


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Dr. Conrad Murray
Prosecutors are debating whether to charge Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, with involuntary manslaughter or a more serious charge, a law enforcement source told FoxNews.com on Friday.

Whatever the charge, Murray will be prosecuted on a theory of gross negligence, the source said.

The agencies involved are looking for a suitable date to present their case to the Los Angeles district attorney, the source said.

The DA's office told Fox News it could not comment on the report because it hasn't received the case yet.

The Los Angeles Police Department has not released an official statement.

Murray's spokeswoman in Houston, Miranda Sevcik, and his lawyer, Edward Chernoff, said the doctor had no comment and reiterated he neither prescribed nor administered anything that should have killed Jackson.


According to a report from TMZ, the LAPD concluded on Friday its investigation into the 50-year-old singer's death on June 25, and the case will go to the district attorney's office within weeks.

Jackson died at his Los Angeles home while under Murray's care as the singer prepared for an ambitious concert schedule.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

[kasume]

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Prosecutors Mulling More Serious Charge Against Michael Jackson's Doctor, Source Says
FOXNews.com

Prosecutors are debating whether to charge Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, with involuntary manslaughter or a more serious charge, a law enforcement source told FoxNews.com on Friday.

I pray so.

I mean what happened to those Dr. Firpo Carr articles when he said he had secret info of the investigation. When I read his first two articles on Michael it seemed like he thought it was murder himself with the "secret info he had." And all we get now is involuntary manslaughter....

It just doesn't make sense.

What Really Happened to Michael Jackson?

You may not be ready for the answer

By Dr. Firpo Carr

Los Angeles Sentinel Newspaper

November 5 - 11, 2009

Please be advised that this article is going to cause more questions than it answers. Regrettably, you probably should prepare yourself for more frustration as you yearn to find out who exactly is responsible for the death of Michael Joseph Jackson. If I've learned nothing else from all that I know (or think I know), it's this: Few things are as they seem. That's right. The "obvious" isn't so "obvious" after all. There are so many twists and turns in this plot that it rigorously tests your sanity. The entire affair is deeply shroud of mystery and the puppet masters are well hidden behind the cloak of anonymity.

But are these masters of illusion responsible for the death of the King of Pop? Why are they so clandestine in their actions? Do they have something to hide? The obvious answer is yes, they're concealing something. And why are they concealing this something? Prepare yourself to enter a multidimensional array of mind-boggling mazes and lurid labyrinths where good guys and bad guys swap roles as they evoke disillusionment and heartbreak. Believe me, if you knew just some of the details it would make you want to take your marbles and go home. Here's what I mean.

In the past week I have learned things that virtually nullify major components of the articles I have written thus far about who may in fact be directly responsible for the death of Michael Jackson. I've encountered shockers that rocked my foundations. This resulted in an abrupt, unceremonious paradigm shift. Here's the first shocker: It may not be Dr. Conrad Murray who had anything to do with Michael's death. Process that. Now, I know you need time to recover from this reality, but, here comes the next shocker: AEG and Dr. Tohme Tohme may not be silent culprits in Michael's death. Oh, I have it on good authority that they drove him relentlessly. Some say they even mistreated him so as to get a major payday. But, kill the King of Pop (really, the King Of All Music!)? Not likely, based on new information I've been made privy to, but am not at liberty to share at this time. Anyway you look at it you come to the stark realization that there are more plot twists in this entire ordeal than in an Agatha Christie novel.

Why were all the versions different? New facts arouse, even though it was determined at the time that all the facts were in. These altered previously held conclusions thought to be fixed in stone. This scenario is not at all too dissimilar from what is going on in Michael Jackson's death investigation. This is why it's taking the police so long! To put this entire matter in perspective, the spine tingling intrigue surrounding the death investigation of the Gloved One rivals the bold brazen assassination of President John F. Kennedy 46 years ago. That happened in broad daylight while the entire world watched! Now, compare that with the death of Michael Jackson, who died in the secluded confines of a bedroom, completely out of the sight of earth's population of nearly seven billion people. I'm not exaggerating when I say the deeper you dig in this whole mess, the more convoluted the details become. The closer you look at the puzzle, the more confused you become. And then there are the details you wish you had not uncovered, which brings me to my next point.

Even with having said all this, there may well be explosive, even monumental developments on the horizon.

Now, you don't have to be a medical professional to know, as one medical expert said, that this much dosage "is enough to put an elephant down"!

Of course, one could argue that Michael had built up a tolerance to these sedatives. Actually, it's very unlikely that the system of a frail man who weighed far less than the leg of an elephant could handle such outrageous dosages. It would appear, then, that Michael was in a coma by this time. Nevertheless, "after repeated demands/requests from [an alert, lucid] Jackson" per the warrant, Dr. Murray delivered the final blow with an IV drip of 25mg of propofol, diluted with lidocaine. Yes, after doping him up with enough medication to drop a full-grown bull elephant, a vibrant Michael Jackson had the emotional strength and mental fortitude to actually "demand" more drugs. This is strange even by Hollywood's standards!

The Nurse: And then there's Michael's one-time nurse, Cherilyn Lee. In her appearances on numerous national television shows she stated that Michael "begged" her for drugs. When I challenged her on national TV and finally confronted her on the Nancy Grace show (neither she nor I was aware that we would be appearing together on this CNN program), she backed off her position and said that Michael didn't beg her after all. Interestingly, according to the warrant she says that Michael simply "asked her [not begged her] if she could get propofol." Suddenly, though, the plot takes an unexpected turn here. While Lee says she refused Michael's request, the warrant says that "Jackson stated that Doctor Cherilyn Lee [investigator's found out that she's really not a medical doctor] had been giving him a 'cocktail' to help him." It further states, "Murray believed the cocktail to be a propofol (diprivan) mix."

So murder expert RHD Detective Martinez was assigned. He has eight years experience investigating murders such as "murders committed during the commission of robberies, gang related murders, narcotic related murders, domestic dispute murders, murders for hire and other types of felony murders," according to the warrant. Why, then, is "manslaughter" mentioned in the warrant? According to legal experts, though Murray may in fact be guilty of murder (at least to the second degree), it may be easier for the District Attorney's office to charge him with manslaughter. It's easier to prove.

I say we take the plunge and go for murder. If it fails, at least we're aiming at the truth! THE TRUTH is the most important thing. Manslaughter IS NOT the truth!!!

 

[princessleia]

I pray so.

I mean what happened to those Dr. Firpo Carr articles when he said he had secret info of the investigation. When I read his first two articles on Michael it seemed like he thought it was murder himself with the "secret info he had." And all we get now is involuntary manslaughter....

It just doesn't make sense.

ITA. Although the very last article seemed somewhat different, I had a bad feeling when I read that this morning, he talks about patience and "divine justice" - which to me implies no justice on this non-divine place we're at. Whatever, I hope I'm getting it wrong or not picking up on everything.

If they're really going to charge Murray with involuntary manslaughter only, what on earth took so long???? And what happened to investigating all the other doctors?

 

[Maria MJ]

Are they only investigating doctors?what about all the other people involved in MJ's life?what about the 100 hours of AEG footage which became 80 after they were sold to SONY?what about these 20 missing hours which probably are where the missing Youtube videos are?
what about everything WE haven't seen so far?

 

[kasume]

ITA. Although the very last article seemed somewhat different, I had a bad feeling when I read that this morning, he talks about patience and "divine justice" - which to me implies no justice on this non-divine place we're at. Whatever, I hope I'm getting it wrong or not picking up on everything.

If they're really going to charge Murray with involuntary manslaughter only, what on earth took so long???? And what happened to investigating all the other doctors?

And Thome....

Someone on FOX news said they're debating whether to charge Murray with something more serious than manslaughter.

I say charge him with the truth, not some half truth, because half truth is a lie.

Here's what they should do at court. Bring Thome, Murray, DiLeo, Lee, and Kleine in all at once and have them speak privately on all this. Then bring them all together in one room, and combine everything they said and question them on why so many contradictions and lies. I would like to see how all of them would behave all in one room together.

I bet they'll all be pointing fingers saying the other is lying.

 

[princessleia]

From updated AP article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_doctor_17

"LOS ANGELES (AP) — Prosecutors are prepared to seek an indictment of Michael Jackson's doctor on a charge of involuntary manslaughter in the pop star's death, The Associated Press has learned.

A law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation remains open said Friday that Conrad Murray would be prosecuted on a theory of gross negligence alleging that his treatment of Jackson was an extreme departure from the standard of care normally followed by physicians."

Should that give some hope or is that just some technicality (case still technically open because it's not been presented to the DA)?

I agree they should go for murder two in any case, the jury could still convict him of a lesser charge, well hopefully, if there's a jury and a trial at all.

 

[ElleBella]

It's all just B.S.! My ONLY hope is that the judge/jury will make an example out of Murray. Too many people in the spotlight are dying too young, and sadly it's because of LEGAL drugs being prescribed by shady doctors!! It would send a warning to doctors that they could be next. It's just sick.

 

[Asedora]

If fans are not going to protest nothing will be done. They dropped the case alredy cus looks like Murray will walk away free. I knew it in August that this will happen.
And yes, probbaly in future Murray will have a car accident or something like that. If fans are not going to protest, the world never will find out the truth about this murder.

 

[Maria MJ]

If fans are not going to protest nothing will be done. They dropped the case alredy cus looks like Murray will walk away free. I knew it in August that this will happen.
And yes, probbaly in future Murray will have a car accident or something like that. If fans are not going to protest, the world never will find out the truth about this murder.

Agreed,Asedora!
Like I posted on the phonecalls to LAPD thread,is there any formal way we can contact the DA?

 

[Asedora]

Agreed,Asedora!
Like I posted on the phonecalls to LAPD thread,is there any formal way we can contact the DA?

In october I posted LAPD e-mail somwhere. But I think that internet protest means nothing now. It has to be a real protest on the street with CNN involved etc.

 

[CatherineNZ]

Doctors make the best assassins. Except, it's also possible that he will have a bad "accident." He knows too much?

yeah. i only hope they wont use Michael's fans name to put blame on for the "accident" if they decide for it

do you think a street protest will change something?

 

[rainny]

do you think a street protest will change something?

I think so.

 

[kasume]

do you think a street protest will change something?

a street protest involving hundreds of thousands of Michael's fans from all over the world, then yes, I think so.

 

[CatherineNZ]

i pray you are right guys

 

[souldreamer7]

This is outrageous, but is no surprise. It's the lightest possible charge. I've predicted from the beginning that Murray would probably spend a short while on probation, and then leave the country. He'll be financially set up for life. Just WATCH. He'll probably plead guilty and get probation, and there will be no trial. THIS is the reason why investigations continue to be important. I think there were others involved. Murray can only be charged once for the same crime, but there are others out there. . . .

Same here..

 

[earth child]

My hope has been they charge Murry with murder and then he starts singing! If he gets the slap on the wrist, he has no reason to talk because taking the slap was part of the deal I am guessing. He was paid well to do it.

 

[Maria MJ]

Ditto EC!!
And yes I think street protests with channels following is the best.
US fans will need to get together outside the DA's office and as for international fans,that's what embassies are for,right?
We should all get out there!