MJresearcher;4009994 said:I personally think you can create your own purpose for life, why should anyone or anything else be needed to accomplish this? How exactly human life got started in the universe I don’t know, but people are here now because their parents bred. We’re more intelligent than other living things (well some of us anyway lol) which is why we ask these questions but does there have to be a reason other than breeding as to why we’re here?
I wouldn’t necessarily say that atheists “deny” the existence of a god, the way I see it is that I reject the claim that there’s one based on the lack of evidence. Yes the human body and the universe is complex but this doesn’t automatically mean a creator. At least in the case where a person has made something, say for example a computer, you can prove that the person who created it existed and you can be shown how it’s done and what to use. People often give supernatural explanations for things they don’t know the answer to to fill the gap in knowledge.
Someone in a tribe away from the western world could conclude that lightening occurs because some supernatural being is angry but that would just come from ignorance.
I am neither an atheist, nor a religious fanatic. I haven't come to debate. I just wondered. Set aside all the religions, what about your personal quest on the meaning of life? Of consciousness? Of existence? Of the purpose all that we live and experience? Denying the existence of God is one thing, but searching answers without excluding any possibility is another. And trust me, all my life I have been asking all sorts of questions. Every philosophy, mythology, science, teachings, religion, has something to say which is helping understanding the meaning of life. Although I understand that to some a set of religious belif systems is unacceptable, I also have hard time believing that all what we see, live and what exists is fruit coming out of nowhere by pure coincidence.
If someobody told me that the Statue of Liberty is a fruit of coincidence that it is shaped the way it is shaped and that it stands there by pure coincidence thanks to the winds, erosion and years of shaping naturally, I would have hard time believing that person. Yet, a human body which is more complex is easier to believe to be a fruit of coincidence, not to mention the whole universe. Those two things sound contradictory to my mind. .
In other words, we tend to be too pride when trying to explain things "naturally".
I've never understood why people even different creeds believe in karma. I've seen many people posting here karma will make bad people to pay the harm they inflected on Michael and his children, I don't mean to be cruel and/or disrespectful but it kind of bothers me to see that kind of thinking posted and :smilerolleyes: when he's still the example such concept is a humongous pile of bullshit. Michael did nothing but good to people and worried to make them happy and what is he still getting in return? Constant backstabbing and kicks in the ass. I've never seen such despicable individuals facing the consequences of the evil they have inflicted, never. Some of them have even been awarded and fully supported. Totally unfair!
Since we're on a forum dedicated to Michael, I was pointing that out and the truth is that threw no evidence to back up the karma doctrine/teaching whatsoever.
It annoys me when I see Michael giving credit to god for all the songs he wrote. I just wish that MJ would have taken more pride in what he created himself
I don't believe Michael's talent has anything to do with a god, since I do not believe in gods, but why should I be annoyed by his beliefs? If it gave him comfort to believe in a god, oh well. The only time I have a problem with religious people is when they try to shove their beliefs down my throat and when they are in positions of power and they use that position to try to make everyone live according to their beliefs.