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Best Human Nature live performance?

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Hey guys. So I'm slowly trying to turn my boyfriend onto Michael's music and genius. Michael's Human Nature performances are my absolute favorite. I get so carried away emotionally when I watch him perform this song. I really want my guy to appreciate the beauty of this performance at first glance, since Michael gave such a powerful performance every time he sang it.

What would be the best Human Nature performance to show a non-fan? I prefer the ones from the Bad tour first, so I'd rather show him a performance from that tour before showing him any others. However, I love his performances of the song during the Dangerous tour as well.

What do you all think? What is his best Human Nature performance?
 
I can only stand the Victory Tour ones. He did moves that actually fitted the song and sang, instead of whispering. And the band didn't decharacterize the arrangement also. In the subsequent tours the song sadly became an excuse to showboat.
The fans need to have something in mind: if you want any chance of new admiration, bring in black Michael
 
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felipemj said:
I can only stand the Victory Tour ones. He did moves that actually fitted the song and sang, instead of whispering. And the band didn't decharacterize the arrangement also. In the subsequent tours the song sadly became an excuse to showboat.
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In my opinion Bad Tour Human Nature is much much better than Victory Tour's. Performance and the music sounded a lot better. You can't say that he didn't really sing in 87 leg of Bad Tour. :)
 
Victory Tour, Bad Tour and This Is It are great performances of Human Nature
 
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Well this is probably not an obvious choice, it's just my personal favorite. Only I know why :p It might not be the best vocally (I think something got messed up with the microphone?) but dancing? Yes.



But other than that I would go with Brisbane or Wembley
 
Bad Tour 88 Leg for the mime section at the end
Bad Tour 87 Yokohama for vocals
This is It version also have superb vocals
Dangerous performance would come at the end according to my taste
 
Thanks everybody! I'm a big fan of the mime bit at the end but I love Yokohama too. I may go with Bad tour first leg, got a lot of love for that one in here. ha.

I actually am planning on showing him the This Is It version as well to compare (I LOVE this version. I have the audio on my ipod. ;) )


Captaineo - I was just watching that one the other day and I thought it was awesome. But you're right, something was wrong because you can barely hear him at some parts.
 
Bad Tour Tokyo Silver Shirt but the quality is pretty bad.

So maybe best going with Yokohama or Brisbane.
 
everyone complaining about the Victory Tour backing track. This is the only that preserves the original arrangement... so you don't like the record right?
 
Human Nature was best on the Bad Tour 2nd leg. His vocals were great on the Victory tour. Sadly for the Dangerous tour he wasn't really singing it properly and the vocals were too rough and hoarse. Still great dancing for it on the Dangerous tour, but vocally Bad tour and Victory tours were the best for this song.
 
felipemj said:
I can only stand the Victory Tour ones. He did moves that actually fitted the song and sang, instead of whispering. And the band didn't decharacterize the arrangement also. In the subsequent tours the song sadly became an excuse to showboat.
The fans need to have something in mind: if you want any chance of new admiration, bring in black Michael
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What a stupid, racist thing to say. Michael Jackson was born a black man, and died a black man. If you really want to talk like that, 'white' Michael was much better as a dancer and performed with more refinement in his moves. Can't believe I've just read that.
 
IMO it's really hard to say which one was the best. During each tour there was something special about the performance of this song. Victory Tour has great, soft and smooth vocals but I just don't like the music. It just don't 'speak' to me. First leg of BWT has great vocals as well. This one has also better dance moves which MJ started to 'feel' after a few shows and good music. Second leg has better dancing and still great vocals. Finally, DWT which in my personal opinion has the best music arrangement, with all pointing bits and great sound. This one has also the best dancing.

So it's really tough to choose the best one. But if I had to, I'd point out Brisbane '87 and Monza '92 (I know it's just amateur but still awesome!).
 
dam2040 said:
What a stupid, racist thing to say. Michael Jackson was born a black man, and died a black man. If you really want to talk like that, 'white' Michael was much better as a dancer and performed with more refinement in his moves. Can't believe I've just read that.
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Exactly damn, the fact Michael was void of color, (due to vitiligo) it didn't make him less black because his skin desease didn't change his DNA.
 
dam2040 said:
What a stupid, racist thing to say. Michael Jackson was born a black man, and died a black man. If you really want to talk like that, 'white' Michael was much better as a dancer and performed with more refinement in his moves. Can't believe I've just read that.
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Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Exactly damn, the fact Michael was void of color, (due to vitiligo) it didn't make him less black because his skin desease didn't change his DNA.
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I'm talking about time period, not race. After 1985 Michael acumulated bad artistic decisions, including his dancingless hip-hop showboat moves, ridiculous outfits and unnatural singing(including a lot of lip-sync). And his weird face and hair, fair or not, became a negative distraction to the general public.
In other words, a more difficult product to sell. He made so well because people already knew him and tolerated the bad things. Had him started his career that way, it woud be different story... and this is what's on the table now: people having contact with Michael for the first time
 
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felipemj said:
I'm talking about time period, not race. After 1985 Michael acumulated bad artistic decisions, including his dancingless hip-hop showboat moves, ridiculous outfits and unnatural singing(including a lot of lip-sync). And his weird face and hair, fair or not, became a negative distraction to the general public.
In other words, a more difficult product to sell. He made so well because people already knew him and tolerated the bad things. Had him started his career that way, it woud be different story... and this is what's on the table now: people having contact with Michael for the first time
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Are you really a fan or just another Bashir?
 
Ok felipe, you're not talking about race but kept saying racist (discriminatory, derogatory) stuff regarding Michael's physical appearance. Did you say he took bad artistic decitions? Why BAD was the second biggest selling album of the 80's? Why The BAD World Tour was the most successful in that decade also? You just sounded like an MJ hater or detractor I'd expect to read on tabloids. Michael was absolutely versatile and innovative in every field he decided to take part; he wouldn't do the same things he did years before, he'd constantly be evolving.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
Are you really a fan or just another Bashir?
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Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Ok felipe, you're not talking about race but kept saying racist (discriminatory, derogatory) stuff regarding Michael's physical appearance. Did you say he took bad artistic decitions? Why BAD was the second biggest selling album of the 80's? Why The BAD World Tour was the most successful in that decade also? You just sounded like an MJ hater or detractor I'd expect to read on tabloids. Michael was absolutely versatile and innovative in every field he decided to take part; he wouldn't do the same things he did years before, he'd constantly be evolving.
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why calling Michael Jackson 87-2009 face and hair weird is racism? so if a black man call Elvis fat he is racist?
BAD sold so well because the studio music was good and Michael was the most famous man in the earth who had the biggest promotion machine. The thread is about the best live video performances Michael did, which is a different thing. I'm not saying going to a MJ concert didn't worth(Smooth Criminal in that tour was a masterpiece), but the Bad Tour was only a success because there was a lot of people who had never seen Michael Jackson before.
 
felipemj said:
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why calling Michael Jackson 87-2009 face and hair weird is racism? so if a black man call Elvis fat he is racist?
BAD sold so well because the studio music was good and Michael was the most famous man in the earth who had the biggest promotion machine. The thread is about the best live video performances Michael did, which is a different thing. I'm not saying going to a MJ concert didn't worth(Smooth Criminal in that tour was a masterpiece), but the Bad Tour was only a success because there was a lot of people who had never seen Michael Jackson before.
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I'm going to blow any credibility out of the water that you think you may have in one sentence.

In an earlier post you criticized Michael for bad artistic decisions including lip syncing and his dancing, yet now you're saying Smooth Criminal from the Bad Tour was a masterpiece. Smooth Criminal is the song from that tour which features the most dancing and the most lip syncing! Are you mad?


What are you even doing here? You're not a fan.

The Bad Tour was a success because people had never seen Michael Jackson before? Can you answer me exactly why people wanted to see Michael Jackson in the first place? It's because he was at his peak performance wise on the Bad Tour, your comment makes no sense at all. The greatest performer of all time at his peak!

If you're going to come in here and stir up some controversy, at least make a little bit of sense while you're doing it. Name me one thing 'Black' Michael as you put it, did better on the Victory Tour than he did on the Bad Tour?

For the first leg at least, he sang better, he had more energy, he danced better, his costume was better and since you want to talk about appearance then a lot of people actually think he looked his best during the Bad era.

The later tours Michael had problems with his vocals live which seemed to go away once he had a long rest and returned for This is it.

Bad the album sold so well because it's one of the greatest and most diverse albums ever made. I suspect you'll be banned rather soon anyway so just thought I would refute all of your posts quickly before that happens. Bye now.
 
I know everyone is entitled to have his/her own opinion but there are ways to express it. Felipemj has only posted here to bring controversy where there shouldn't exist such thing. If some people don't like, in this case, Human Nuture Live post Victory Tour it's fine but like I said before, there are ways to express it and he did it in such racist and disrespectful way. Yes felipe, the way you referred to Michael's physique was racist. He should be banned IMHO, I don't know what he's doing here offending Michael but it isn't up to me.
 
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I first saw and heard Michael during the Bad era. I immediately became a fan. Without even knowing about Thriller. Nor I was aware of any "big marketing machine" or anything about his past. I just listened to the Bad cassette that another kid left in my father's car and that was it. When I saw pics of him from Thriller era I was never bothered by his changing color. It just did not matter to me. And I don't think for people in Europe it was actually as big of an issue as for Americans. I think the people who make a big issue of it are usually the people who have their own hung-ups about race and color.

I know people who grew to like him during Dangerous era. The Bucharest concert of the Dangerous Tour made my grandmother cry and left her in awe, even though she did not know anything about Michael or his past. It's not true that people only followed Michael after Thriller because of Thriller's earlier success and that after that he could not impress people. In some European countries Bad or Dangerous was more popular than Thriller. In some European countries Earth Song was Michael's best selling single EVER! IMO his Bad Tour vocals were better than his Vicory Tour vocals and his dancing after the Thriller era definitely got a LOT better! His Billie Jean routines got more sophisticated, more precise and better performed. They also included more elements. Motown 25 may be much hyped but his performances of Billie Jean in the 90s are actually a lot better. If I had to show someone who is new to Michael a Billie Jean performance by Michael it actually would NOT be Motown 25, but something from a show from a later era!

It seems to me Felipe only logged in here to get a rise out of people. It's one thing to be critical of Michael for some of his decisions or not to like everything he did, but the way it's expressed is another. It's not the first time he does it either. IMO he's here to provoke.
 
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I agree respect, it's not the first time he does such things and by posting here I meant in the forum, most of his posts bring controversy out of nowhere. He's not an MJ fan, he just loves to troll people.
I precisely knew who he is in 1989 because of Thriller, the more I was discovering new things from the next albums and shortfilms the best he got. His vocal range got higher over years, the lyrics got deeper and meaningful every album, he always did somithing different, new music every record, the shortfilms were more innovative, every tour got better and exciting than the previous ones. His evolution was always for the best.
 
felipemj said:
I'm talking about time period, not race. After 1985 Michael acumulated bad artistic decisions, including his dancingless hip-hop showboat moves, ridiculous outfits and unnatural singing(including a lot of lip-sync). And his weird face and hair, fair or not, became a negative distraction to the general public.
In other words, a more difficult product to sell. He made so well because people already knew him and tolerated the bad things. Had him started his career that way, it woud be different story... and this is what's on the table now: people having contact with Michael for the first time
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????

I can't believe I just read that on a Michael Jackson fan forum!! ??
 
felipemj said:
I'm talking about time period, not race. After 1985 Michael acumulated bad artistic decisions, including his dancingless hip-hop showboat moves, ridiculous outfits and unnatural singing(including a lot of lip-sync). And his weird face and hair, fair or not, became a negative distraction to the general public.
In other words, a more difficult product to sell. He made so well because people already knew him and tolerated the bad things. Had him started his career that way, it woud be different story... and this is what's on the table now: people having contact with Michael for the first time
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My favorite album is Dangerous. - And HIStory and Invincible are amazing albums too. So to say MJ was no good after Thriller is nonsens IMO. - Acually my favorite MJ songs are all post Thriller...
 
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