So a "good one" at that screening leaked this then? This person says the person on the stage at the screening tells everyone to just say "watch the film" whenever we (fans) debunk their crap?
If true, wow. That's the media for ya.
So a "good one" at that screening leaked this then? This person says the person on the stage at the screening tells everyone to just say "watch the film" whenever we (fans) debunk their crap?
If true, wow. That's the media for ya.
I don’t know if we are talking about the same person but there is one person planning to interview his who dosn’t sound brainwashed at all so far. He has had a lot of contact with fans and responded to them mostly ”that is a fair question”.elusive moonwalker;4241640 said:Uk media etc getting viewing now. BBC radio five afternoon presenter tweeting at the viewing anouncing interview on his show with reed. has retweeted vogul article in past weeks. No doubt now getting brainwashed.
AlwaysThere;4241649 said:I'm really not mentally or emotionally prepared for this to air.
Thats a deflection tactic, they can't be called out on the falsehoods by saying that to ensure people view it before anyone confirms it's lies, scary shit
I think the twitter 'poster' just meant that that's what they expected the journalists to say, on the basis of the previous HBO 'influencers' comments to fans.
I'm presuming when the rebuttal doc hits journalists will be given pre screenings or would it be launched with out that? I hope Taj comes up with the goods, he's been amazing
ILoveHIStory;4241500 said:We fans should react and let the ppl know the facts, especially as the reply to those who just think about the nonsense as a fact...
Yes, we can spam the discussions with FACTS, the more the better!
Its time to fight and not to be politically correct.
But, guys, do not act like crazy "J@cko fanatics", only the facts matter
terrell;4241515 said:This trash was knock down. I remember that DD was trying to say this as well. That was a lie. And anyway, if MJ used that for that purpose, why would he allow EVERYONE including parents into his room including maids, etc.
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4241519 said:The sad thing is that the media has stayed running with the secret closet/room and alarm system in bedroom shit for years, so when people hear about it during LN they won't know what it's really about. They don't get it in the right context.
That would be really nice to see for a change. Tabloids will stay doing what they've been doing but if maybe NBC or CNN could actually start to dissect things, that would get the truth out to be public about these two liars.
Do you know who first found out that Jussie may have been lying? Who came forward with their doubts first? Because I do recall that initially he was seen as the victim, people sympathizing with him etc.
SmoothGangsta;4241630 said:Oof that bus thing is cringey and a bad idea. I get the intent but it's absolutely gonna have the opposite effect.
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4241636 said:Just took a look at the comment section of the MJ innocent project video and one dude keeps saying he finds it odd how he was always traveling with boys, in the same bed as them etc etc, and while this isn't proof of any abuse he definitely thinks he was attracted to them. See I just don't get that way of thinking at all, why does it always have to be something like that?
Besides there weren't only boys on his trips, girls were there too and I believe most of the time he brought their families with him too. I just don't get why these people think in such simple ways, don't they think that MJ maybe surrounded himself with children so much because he was a big kid himself? That he knew they wouldn't take advantage of him? He hung around with children a lot so there must be something here....
People, people, people... you've a lot to learn still.
This reminds me of a radio DJ on Dutch TV a long time ago, it was after MJ was gone though. He said MJ visited Holland and he had a kid or kids with him and he found it all very weird, odd, questionable, sigh.
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Speaker on stage: “Now remember, whenever an MJ fan tweets you facts which completely debunk this whole documentary, what do you say?”
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KOPV;4241662 said:There has not been any hint regarding a timeline to the release of the docuseries Taj is working on nor has there been any clue to where or how it will air. All we heard is "..Aiming bigger than HBO", we could dissect how he worded things and when someone from the podcast mentioned Netflix - Taj had a quick response about aiming bigger than HBO but we really have no idea what the plan is.
We know it's in the works, we know hes been paying attention to fan videos and awareness of the subject.. Mentioned that he knows that it has to be detailed (all allegations not just Wade) and big, we know he's reached out to many people that have we discuss in this forum.
There has not been any hint regarding a timeline to the release of the docuseries Taj is working on nor has there been any clue to where or how it will air. All we heard is "..Aiming bigger than HBO", we could dissect how he worded things and when someone from the podcast mentioned Netflix - Taj had a quick response about aiming bigger than HBO but we really have no idea what the plan is.
We know it's in the works, we know hes been paying attention to fan videos and awareness of the subject.. Mentioned that he knows that it has to be detailed (all allegations not just Wade) and big, we know he's reached out to many people that have we discuss in this forum.
dmehta;4241664 said:I have great respect for Taj and love the way he constantly defends MJ. However, I’m sceptical about any doc being made and/or airing on a major tv network or streaming site. I’d love to be proved wrong.
They probably not saying nothing because they are waiting for it to come out even if they know it is going to be BS.Aiming bigger than HBO huh? Have it aired in theaters? But that would mean people have to buy tickets for it and I'm sure after seeing LN there will be quite a few people who won't bother with that. It's probably not that. But what is bigger than HBO, other than Netflix? Netflix is still the biggest streaming service iirc.
Just now on this website I saw a article about Whoopy Goldberg. To my knowledge she has always defended MJ, during talk shows when the host would talk shit she'd be all up in her face about it. But so far we haven't heard anything from her or plenty of other celebrities that did care for MJ. I don't exactly get that.
I know, I'm remain hopeful tho that they have some kind of connections, I remember the What Really Happened rebuttal to Bashir was shown on Ch5 in the UK which is a really low viewed channel compared to ITV that showed Living With, I hope Netflix picks Taj up to highlight it's rival HBO being inept
They probably not saying nothing because they are waiting for it to come out even if they know it is going to be BS.
Uk media etc getting viewing now. BBC radio five afternoon presenter tweeting at the viewing anouncing interview on his show with reed. has retweeted vogul article in past weeks. No doubt now getting brainwashed.
I watched #LeavingNeverland today, ahead of it airing on @Channel4 on March 6&7. It feels like an important film and was compelling and disturbing to watch. I also think it removes any lingering doubts viewers may have - Michael Jackson was a paedophile and this film proves it.
Mark Jefferies Verified account @mirrorjeffers
2h2 hours ago
No, I cannot talk in-depth about what is on screen because of embargoes but I would just say watch the film and look into the eyes of the people talking, listen to them speaking over four hours, and see if you still feel the same.
aiming bigger than HBO could mean a lot of things. Even if it's on a channel like A&E, or better yet a local station. Not everyone has HBO, those who have it usually (in the US) have satalight packages that includes HBO, movie channels and so on. Many americans do not have that high of a package. Meanwhile standard satalight and cable providers do have channels like A&E, or of course local stations for those who don't even have satalight or cable at all..
The only reason I bring up A&E specifically is because before all this, they were the first to mention making a docu-series about Michael..
Bigger than HBO could also mean a popular streaming program like Netflix, Hulu... Amazon prime is fairly big and Apple is launching there own!
We can only speculate with the info we have.. It does seem like a huge feat to tackel and I share the sentiment of some scepticism simply because we have not seen a BIG pro MJ project done regarding allegations EVER! No one has ever attacked allegations head on in a big way (aside in court).. Michael had the tendancy or turnning the other cheek and the Estate seems to often share that same sentiment...
DIfference now is Michael is not here to make the decision how to attack (or not)... But obviously turnning the other cheek wasn't working!
Correct. Starting with the Mirror. (M Jefferies) 'Watch the film' Sigh.
I watched #LeavingNeverland today, ahead of it airing on @Channel4 on March 6&7. It feels like an important film and was compelling and disturbing to watch. I also think it removes any lingering doubts viewers may have - Michael Jackson was a paedophile and this film proves it.
Mark Jefferies Verified account @mirrorjeffers
2h2 hours ago
No, I cannot talk in-depth about what is on screen because of embargoes but I would just say watch the film and look into the eyes of the people talking, listen to them speaking over four hours , and see if you still feel the same.
ILoveHIStory;4241677 said:<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sk"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take this teenager from Canada who offered HOURS of unwavering graphic allegations against MJ on video, phone and in person. No less detailed or graphic than anything Robson/Safechuck now allege. He made it all up and admits it at end of investigation.<a href="https://t.co/f5Vxx8OoOT">https://t.co/f5Vxx8OoOT</a></p>— TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1097630445271949314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">18. februára 2019</a></blockquote>
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We will be ok. Facts are on our side. And most of these people talking already hated MJ and used him to make money.SeeingVoices;4241681 said:Guys, I feel like I'm going out of my mind here!! Please tell me I'm not the only one who is obsessing about this whole saga? This is the calm before the storm and I'm already going out of my mind. I've joined twitter which is clearly the breeding ground for stupidity but I can't stop trawling through endless tweets and engaging in non stop arguments. It's literally draining me to the point of despair (most likely their objective).
I feel like I just want to shut myself away and wait for the storm to pass but I feel like that's the cowards way out. I find myself again back in the same position as 05 - fighting a losing battle where no-one is willing to listen to our voice despite reasoned arguments. This constant feeling of anxiety and unknown is even disturbing my sleep pattern which is absolutely INSANE and PATHETIC. I don't ever recall feeling like this during the 05 trial?
I've came to the realisation that this topic on MJ has, and always will, polarize the public. It's never really disappeared. It's only now that the allegations have resurfaced has it reignited the debate and brought them to the forefront. Both camps have already firmly formed their opinion and it's almost impossible to infiltrate them. With the passage of time the allegations faded and the focus realigned to MJ's talent and we've had the luxury of celebrating being an MJ fan once again. It's difficult to predict what the outcome of this documentary will have as we're relying on the the media's predictable reaction to influence how we should feel. I just pray the public apply common sense and ask some questions before accepting these deceptively alluring "testimonials" at face value.
I'm aware this sounds like a self indulgent pity part and is no way constructive but I feel I have nowhere else to air my thoughts. I feel mildly better that I’ve got it out actually..
Jesus. That's news to me. I had no idea. Truly insane.
Really good of the person on Twitter to bring that up though. He/she could have said that it's basically the same as what was said during the trial, tons of disgusting details and all fabricated with constant changing stories too. It's really no different. Only difference is that wasn't televised or made into a doc.
But wait, he's from The Mirror right? Then I know enough anyway.
SeeingVoices;4241681 said:Guys, I feel like I'm going out of my mind here!! Please tell me I'm not the only one who is obsessing about this whole saga? This is the calm before the storm and I'm already going out of my mind. I've joined twitter which is clearly the breeding ground for stupidity but I can't stop trawling through endless tweets and engaging in non stop arguments. It's literally draining me to the point of despair (most likely their objective).
I feel like I just want to shut myself away and wait for the storm to pass but I feel like that's the cowards way out. I find myself again back in the same position as 05 - fighting a losing battle where no-one is willing to listen to our voice despite reasoned arguments. This constant feeling of anxiety and unknown is even disturbing my sleep pattern which is absolutely INSANE and PATHETIC. I don't ever recall feeling like this during the 05 trial?
I've came to the realisation that this topic on MJ has, and always will, polarize the public. It's never really disappeared. It's only now that the allegations have resurfaced has it reignited the debate and brought them to the forefront. Both camps have already firmly formed their opinion and it's almost impossible to infiltrate them. With the passage of time the allegations faded and the focus realigned to MJ's talent and we've had the luxury of celebrating being an MJ fan once again. It's difficult to predict what the outcome of this documentary will have as we're relying on the the media's predictable reaction to influence how we should feel. I just pray the public apply common sense and ask some questions before accepting these deceptively alluring "testimonials" at face value.
I'm aware this sounds like a self indulgent pity part and is no way constructive but I feel I have nowhere else to air my thoughts. I feel mildly better that I’ve got it out actually..
