Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[Soundmind]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I refuse to click on any video.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I refuse to click on any video.

Its obviously a Fan account.
The username is Michael Jacki, he has only this video uploaded, no subscribers and the video title is "Fakecobshagen @Sunday Night" and no # .
So people who search normally on YouTube will not find the video.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I refuse to click on any video.

Its a MJ fans youtube account, the title is Facobsahagen. Whats the problem?

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

No. I sit also in germany. Its maybe not working for anyone outside austalia.
I'm a little bit shocked from this interview.
Sadly I was right that they have hiared an so called hand whriting expert.

But its very interesting that he obviously only had checked the book and not the letters!
The arrows can easyly be faked.

Shocked how? Can you give a little more information as to why or how this shocked you, considering it was widely speculated what the moron would say?

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[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I see now that 60 Min. Australia had uploded a 46:37 long video 5 hours ago which includes the maid. But I refuse to click on that video to give them Ratings.
Maybe the fan who uploaded the Jacobshagen video can reupload this too.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Shocked how? Can you give a little more information as to why or how this shocked you, considering it was widely speculated what the moron would say?

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I was not really sure about how far he will go.

Why did they say in the trailer that Jocobshagen will talk about sleepovers in nerverland? Liars!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I see now that 60 Min. Australia had uploded a 46:37 long video 5 hours ago which includes the maid. But I refuse to click on that video to give them Ratings.
Maybe the fan who uploaded the Jacobshagen video can reupload this too.

From the Neverland 5? Lol, these people so need to get a life.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I turned on my wii u now which did not play videos automatically when I click on it.
What I can say about the video:
- It has a closed comment section ( so we can not post any information there).
- 18.519 views at the moment 869 thumbs up 482 Thumbs down
- The video description says:
"A 60 MINUTES Exclusive. Michael Jackson - What the Maid Saw. For four years Adrian McManus cleaned up after the iconic pop star at his Neverland Ranch. Her allegations about Jackson's abuse of children in his care will shock the world."

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I turned on my wii u now which did not play videos automatically when I click on it.
What I can say about the video:
- It has a closed comment section ( so we can not post any information there).
- 18.519 views at the moment 869 thumbs up 482 Thumbs down
- The video description says:
"A 60 MINUTES Exclusive. Michael Jackson - What the Maid Saw. For four years Adrian McManus cleaned up after the iconic pop star at his Neverland Ranch. Her allegations about Jackson's abuse of children in his care will shock the world."

I am doing a FULL WRITTEN TRANSCRIPT of the maids interview on 60 minutes now!

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We organized fan gatherings and protests in Shanghai, Beijing (Great Wall), Chengdu, Wuhan, Guangzhou, Xi'an, Changsha and 10 more Chinese cities during last and this weekend. It is a national campaign for Michael Jackson's innocence! Justice and Truth will prevail! <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tjjackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/GVBPiZPPiS">pic.twitter.com/GVBPiZPPiS</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1099326281030615040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More receipts &#128071;<br><br>To recount:<br><br>In 2009, MJ is the reason Wade Robson believes in the “pure goodness of humankind.”<br><br>Then he’s strapped for cash. Auctions MJ memorabilia, shops book, files civil lawsuit against MJs estate for millions, changes his story repeatedly, lies under oath <a href="https://t.co/45wTOqQGWc">https://t.co/45wTOqQGWc</a></p>&mdash; Joe Vogel (@JoeVogel1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeVogel1/status/1099674152053673984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJfam</a>: I'm just doing it like <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> did and making the world a better place. &#128579;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonIsInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/2Ix9KdyyRG">pic.twitter.com/2Ix9KdyyRG</a></p>&mdash; &#7437;&#640;s. &#7434;&#7424;&#7428;&#7435;s&#7439;&#628; (@RideTheBoogie) <a href="https://twitter.com/RideTheBoogie/status/1099391568249798656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="da" dir="ltr">Jacobshagen is a fraud <a href="https://t.co/LslcLSwpPr">https://t.co/LslcLSwpPr</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1099554356934762497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Proud to say I SUPPORT AN INNOCENT MAN WITH TRUTH, EVIDENCES, PROOFS AND FACTS. While others support two liars with opinions, emotions, feelings and manipulations. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJinnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/krI5Matt1W">pic.twitter.com/krI5Matt1W</a></p>&mdash; Kerry Hennigan (@kerryhennigan) <a href="https://twitter.com/kerryhennigan/status/1099471361569841153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jason, Bless you for this tribute to the King of Pop! At a time when some are trying to destroy Michael Jackson with lies ...this song is an important reminder of the impact of the man! Thank you &#10084;&#65039;&#128081;&#128591;&#127999; <a href="https://t.co/7MBTe7mwFs">https://t.co/7MBTe7mwFs</a></p>&mdash; Melanie321 (@Mellie4Justice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mellie4Justice/status/1099329242117144576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love this image. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/75ngYMNRGB">https://t.co/75ngYMNRGB</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1099692541635571712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was Daniel Pearl's idea FOR the Michael Jackson film. He and <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> were having breakfast one day when they brainstormed the idea.<br><br>Reed: &quot;So Daniel said, 'What about Michael Jackson? That’s a big story and no one really knows what happened.'&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/M29ijYodo0">pic.twitter.com/M29ijYodo0</a></p>&mdash; TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1099506310930927617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite having already told the authorities she never saw any inappropriate activity, McManus was advised by a civil lawyer that if she implicated Jackson in child abuse in the current climate, it may help force a massive settlement. So she started saying she’d witnessed abuse.</p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1099616198663327744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 2016, I wrote an essay on the media's framing of celebrities for an intro writing class, mainly on Michael Jackson. In light of the recent <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> &quot;documentary&quot; I felt it was a good time to post.<a href="https://t.co/BiXsi2TBbL">https://t.co/BiXsi2TBbL</a></p>&mdash; Stephen Bolen (@stevebolen22) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevebolen22/status/1098414428632973312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It seems that French channel M6 has delayed the diffusion of the LN because of all the questions asked and the lack of proofs. Please, share as much as possible, it's good to know that certain channel and/or journalists still have a consciousness! Thank you <a href="https://t.co/1VTepXCYVo">https://t.co/1VTepXCYVo</a></p>&mdash; Nicole61Belgium (@Nicole61Belgium) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nicole61Belgium/status/1099342287929266176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When we were taking pictures, several foreigners saw them join us, and they said Michael Jackson was innocent.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HBO</a> <a href="https://t.co/JNIrzo2Hrj">pic.twitter.com/JNIrzo2Hrj</a></p>&mdash; lu (@lu87826872) <a href="https://twitter.com/lu87826872/status/1099533504449134597?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> Very interesting Juliens Auctions answer to Wade´s seelling MJ itens <a href="https://t.co/Pas2BKgI4H">pic.twitter.com/Pas2BKgI4H</a></p>&mdash; Nimue (@Nimue9) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nimue9/status/1099642446164754437?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We already addressed Adrian McManus - another Hard Copy starlet. But here it is again. <a href="https://t.co/H04KwQ0s1Y">pic.twitter.com/H04KwQ0s1Y</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1098626337089208320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MAYBE SOME PEOPLE NEED A REMINDER! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NOTGUILTY?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NOTGUILTY</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JUSTICE4MJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JUSTICE4MJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJINNOCENT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJINNOCENT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFAM?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFAM</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JUSTICEWASDONE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JUSTICEWASDONE</a> <a href="https://t.co/DwzzIrwp5L">https://t.co/DwzzIrwp5L</a></p>&mdash; Jen-MichaelsArmy (@Jennife11921080) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jennife11921080/status/1099711393627099137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's get this to 300K, <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeVogel1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeVogel1</a>! If you haven't read the insightful <a href="https://twitter.com/Forbes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Forbes</a> piece on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a>, please do. <a href="https://t.co/GLaI38GYMm">https://t.co/GLaI38GYMm</a></p>&mdash; Talun Zeitoun (@talunzeitoun) <a href="https://twitter.com/talunzeitoun/status/1099713785571336193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sensationalised, shocking attempt at journalism in tonight’s double network Michael Jackson Slanderfest. Pathetic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/innocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#innocent</a></p>&mdash; Talia (@Taliasmusic) <a href="https://twitter.com/Taliasmusic/status/1099704095881887745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson was innocent and the solidarity activities in Tianjin were successfully held.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/knPw7jIRBF">pic.twitter.com/knPw7jIRBF</a></p>&mdash; YanWu (@YanWu1314) <a href="https://twitter.com/YanWu1314/status/1099701361866723328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty <br>Not Guilty<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfan?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/michaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#michaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJIsInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/az7CiBcVP2">pic.twitter.com/az7CiBcVP2</a></p>&mdash; Olivia Hall (@OliviaMJJHall) <a href="https://twitter.com/OliviaMJJHall/status/1099676096579207171?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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[kai]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

bit out of topic but are there shirts to buy anywhere with the innocent pic on it? or can i get a HQ pic of that somewhere?

 

[KrisMJFan]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

It is interesting reading through posts in this forum

 

[Dudex]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

i saw HQ template somewhere in twitter, maybe someone here have it

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I know its tooooo late but I whould choose a older picture from MJ from the 90ies or 2000s for the innocent project. Not a picture from him in the off the wall era before any of the allegations should have happened.
Its too late for the project in general but maybe not for t- shirts.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I turned on my wii u now which did not play videos automatically when I click on it.
What I can say about the video:
- It has a closed comment section ( so we can not post any information there).
- 18.519 views at the moment 869 thumbs up 482 Thumbs down
- The video description says:
"A 60 MINUTES Exclusive. Michael Jackson - What the Maid Saw. For four years Adrian McManus cleaned up after the iconic pop star at his Neverland Ranch. Her allegations about Jackson's abuse of children in his care will shock the world."

Hahaha, oh man. These media idiots truly have no clue do they?

"Will shock the world." I bet she said the same trash as she did in that court room, or similar. Which brings me to this, depending on what she claims here, is this a offense i wonder? She did admit to the judge that she was lying after all.

At the end of the day only one reply is valid here..

 

[KOPV]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

trolls keep bringing up this secrity gaurd selling stories etc.. I've been on a rampage fighting back regardin facts of allegations I did not pay close attention to which security gaurd and what he's saying.. Can someone fill me in with a little summary?

 

[kai]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I know its tooooo late but I whould choose a older picture from MJ from the 90ies or 2000s for the innocent project. Not a picture from him in the off the wall era before any of the allegations should have happened.
Its too late for the project in general but maybe not for t- shirts.

I only want to make a shirt for myself. I mean i could also create a design for tee-spring but people would hate me cause i will automaticly earn some money from it.. haha

 

[AliCat]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Wade Robson has apparently evolved: "Still, the hostility "hurts less and less as time goes on," Robson told USA TODAY in a joint interview with Safechuck last month. "It's not a great feeling, I'll be honest. But I just keep trying to remember that each and every one of us (as) humans are at our own state of evolution. We can accept whatever we're able to accept based on where we're at in our lives. ... So the people who are choosing to take that nasty, volatile approach to me and James, that's just where they're at right now, and I wish them some peace and less anger in their lives." And at the same time Michael Jackson was a god to Wade.

Every time Wade opens his mouth, I become more and more confused. Is this truly his modus operandi, to confuse everyone so he will win, like the ol' Dentist, Evan Chandler. After all Michael Jackson admitted to Diane Sawyer that he gave money to Evan, just to shut him down. Michael wanted to stop being tried in a court of public opinion, but Michael underestimated his fellow human. One can find a loop hole if there is one to be found. Especially if you find a lawyer who can be paid to do so. Usually lawyers are paid either by a flat fee or by the hour. Just lawyer up and find out. Then create enough doubt and you win your case!

 

[Amaya]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Wade Robson has apparently evolved: "Still, the hostility "hurts less and less as time goes on," Robson told USA TODAY in a joint interview with Safechuck last month. "It's not a great feeling, I'll be honest. But I just keep trying to remember that each and every one of us (as) humans are at our own state of evolution. We can accept whatever we're able to accept based on where we're at in our lives. ... So the people who are choosing to take that nasty, volatile approach to me and James, that's just where they're at right now, and I wish them some peace and less anger in their lives." And at the same time Michael Jackson was a god to Wade.

This sounds like he's trying to appeal to the crowd who thinks it's wrong to harass people and that "hate only begets more hate". While I don't doubt him and Safechuck are getting some... more colorful messages, there are plenty who are being calm and rational about things and are offering actual evidence of his lies. Of course, he doesn't mention those people.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I want also post this new video about Adrian McManus here from a very small channel who made other good videos to Leaving Neverland too:

Please give all those videos views, thumbs up, comments (when possible), to become relevant, a attentionmagnet ( good ratings) for people when they make searches about LN, Wade, James, Adrian Mc Manus Michael Jackson etc. on YouTube.

 

[myosotis]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Watch the video, to see what the arrows are about!

Hi thank you for the 'Fakeobshagen' vid.

Edit: Sorry, I've found it - couldn't get it to link at first, My fault !

 

[MJRemixed]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I've seen the trailer and putting aside everything we know and have read, if you were to watch this trailer without any previous knowledge (lived under a rock past 25 years), the way they come across on camera is so so far from genuine it's unreal. Like I said tryt to look at them with a fresh mind and they do not even remotely come across as convincing at all. It appears very much acted and staged, I hope if the general public watch this they see this too.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

trolls keep bringing up this secrity gaurd selling stories etc.. I've been on a rampage fighting back regardin facts of allegations I did not pay close attention to which security gaurd and what he's saying.. Can someone fill me in with a little summary?

Wish I could help you out but I'm just as confused as you are now probably. I thought the security guard was supposed to be the maid (Adrian) and that either the media had reported wrong on that or that the maid claims she was one back then.

 

[La74]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Then I first heard about Wades lawsuit I was wondering if it was possible that he was brainwashed by some kind of receoverd memory therapy but Safechuck really does seem to have copied his lawsuit from Victor Gutierrez book so that was rather naive but cases like that has happend.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered-memory_therapy

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

This sounds like he's trying to appeal to the crowd who thinks it's wrong to harass people and that "hate only begets more hate". While I don't doubt him and Safechuck are getting some... more colorful messages, there are plenty who are being calm and rational about things and are offering actual evidence of his lies. Of course, he doesn't mention those people.

I hate people like that. He's the last person that has the right to talk about hate gets you nowhere, that he wishes the people that wish bad things on him get some peace. I'll refrain from saying what I wish on him.

The hate he's getting is very valid and just, he's ruining a person that did so much good for this world and is accusing him of the worst thing you could accuse him of. Incredibly unlikeable, insufferable piece of shit this guy.

I've seen the trailer and putting aside everything we know and have read, if you were to watch this trailer without any previous knowledge (lived under a rock past 25 years), the way they come across on camera is so so far from genuine it's unreal. Like I said tryt to look at them with a fresh mind and they do not even remotely come across as convincing at all. It appears very much acted and staged, I hope if the general public watch this they see this too.

It looks very fake and very much acted indeed, definitely not genuine and honest at all. Yet the people that have seen it so far say the exact opposite. Some with a agenda, some not necessarily with one. Those are the ones claiming that they were fans and this was shocking, bla bla bla. Those people likely are oblivious to the facts though.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Daniel pearl at chan5 on twitter is now pushing the agenda. Claiming mj will be pulled from radio playlists after the airing. He fails to say he was the one who gave his friend reed the idea for this hit peice.pearl previously worked at chan 4. Lets let him know that we know about his B.S agenda as after this airs their next attack peice will be trying to mute mike.