Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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Is this advertisement for a sex abuse film or unvieling of a new product?

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It's an ad for 'The Brokestreet Boyz'...1st single out now on Youtube!

(It's probably been shared here already, but deserves another share!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_...BEIHdVsWL0Rx6smX-debpCDaweXj6itgcTYxQkB_vfdN0

 

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BIG NEWS: Anthony ‘sin eater’ Pellicano walks free from jail today (March 23rd)

Pellicano is being released on his 75th birthday today after serving time for litany of crimes including possession of plastic explosives, wiretapping, racketeering, protection, intimidation, witness tampering and destroying evidence.

He warned in a Newsweek interview in 2008: "A lot of people are quaking that I'm going to disclose a lot of things when I get out.

"They'll just have to keep quaking won't they?"

In the same interview he said of Jackson: "I quit because I found out some truths... He did something far worse to young boys than molest them."

And last year he told the Hollywood Reporter he was disgusted by truths "even darker" than the Chandler case.

He said: "I was offered $500,000 to tell the whole story by a tabloid and I declined."

Pellicano played a huge part in Jackson's 1993 negotiations with Jordy's dad Evan Chandler.

The then 13-year-old claimed ***** groomed and molested him leading to the superstar performer’s arrest and "humiliating" strip search.

Jordy was able to draw distinctive marks on Jackson’s penis and buttocks – as the Thriller icon suffered from the skin condition vitiligo.

Police in California then strip searched and photographed ***** genitals.

The star, who denied all allegations of sex abuse, called that "the most humiliating ordeal of my life”.

But Pellicano talked Jordy's stepfather into recording conversations with Evan, who was heard saying there would be a "massacre... if I don't get what I want".

This formed the basis of Pellicano's claim the accusations were a part of an extortion plot and Jackson agreed a massive settlement with the Chandler family reported to between $20m and $24m.

The news of Pellicano's release comes after Jackson and his scandalous past came into the spotlight again after the release of the Leaving Neverland documentary, featuring fresh abuse claims by Jackson’s one-time fans Wade Robson and James Safechuck.
 

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Anthony Pellicano ha? looks like this could get bigger fairly quick!
 

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I don't believe in this "normalizing paedophilia agenda" thing. Its of course a goal of some paedophiles (not all of them!), but I consider it way too far-fetched to believe that normal people support that or are even aware that some stuff Reed said is very similar to what NAMBLA members say. It seems much more plausible to assume that celebrities, who support LN, are just jumping on the band wagon for their own career or because they really believe in the "You should always stand on the victims side" stuff or they are just hysterical people who are not interested in hearing both sides and are not informed about the whole case at all, maybe because they believed in MJ's guilt even before. Probably they just watched the doc or read one or two articles and thats it. Fans should stop coming up with conspiracy theories like this, it damages the credibility of the whole fan community.

Also this black/white issue...I know that there is a serious racism problem in the United States and always has been, but it is again not helpful to see that kind of motivation behind every action against a black person. In Michaels case it's more plausible that they mainly attack him because he is an easy target with his unique persona and lifestyle and has always been considered strange by many people.

Geffen and Oprah watching it on his yacht? The zero questioning by the media? The complete refusal to present the estate side? That's all just coincidence?
 

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We knew that scumbag was getting out and you can be almost sure some MJ trash talk will be included.
He needs to just sit quiet. A scumbag who just got out of prison and enjoy old age and to be alive.
 
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Anyone that knows Anthony will speak.. he is a narccisist that loves power & attention. He loves the mob like fear people have for him! he'll speak...



PS. regarding the pedo-propoganda... In the large picture, they are not trying to normalize pedophelia, it feels that way because of the story Dan Reed + dumb and dumber put together thanks to Victors book.. So yes there is pedo-propaganda involved but the overall picture is protection of the 'elite'.. and protection with whatever crimes they commit, it could be sexual abuse and/or other.. They are taking advantage of the sensationalism that surrounds Michael..
 

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ILoveHIStory;4251295 said:
BIG NEWS: Anthony ‘sin eater’ Pellicano walks free from jail today (March 23rd)

Pellicano is being released on his 75th birthday today after serving time for litany of crimes including possession of plastic explosives, wiretapping, racketeering, protection, intimidation, witness tampering and destroying evidence.

He warned in a Newsweek interview in 2008: "A lot of people are quaking that I'm going to disclose a lot of things when I get out.

"They'll just have to keep quaking won't they?"

In the same interview he said of Jackson: "I quit because I found out some truths... He did something far worse to young boys than molest them."

And last year he told the Hollywood Reporter he was disgusted by truths "even darker" than the Chandler case.

He said: "I was offered $500,000 to tell the whole story by a tabloid and I declined."

Pellicano played a huge part in Jackson's 1993 negotiations with Jordy's dad Evan Chandler.

The then 13-year-old claimed ***** groomed and molested him leading to the superstar performer’s arrest and "humiliating" strip search.

Jordy was able to draw distinctive marks on Jackson’s penis and buttocks – as the Thriller icon suffered from the skin condition vitiligo.

Police in California then strip searched and photographed ***** genitals.

The star, who denied all allegations of sex abuse, called that "the most humiliating ordeal of my life”.

But Pellicano talked Jordy's stepfather into recording conversations with Evan, who was heard saying there would be a "massacre... if I don't get what I want".

This formed the basis of Pellicano's claim the accusations were a part of an extortion plot and Jackson agreed a massive settlement with the Chandler family reported to between $20m and $24m.

The news of Pellicano's release comes after Jackson and his scandalous past came into the spotlight again after the release of the Leaving Neverland documentary, featuring fresh abuse claims by Jackson’s one-time fans Wade Robson and James Safechuck.


Plus

Barresi and Michael Jackson ‘FBI’ Files. Part 1 - https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2014/04/12/barresi-and-michael-jackson-fbi-files-part-1/

Barresi, Pellicano and Michael Jackson ‘FBI’ files. Part 2 - https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/barresi-pellicano-and-michael-jackson-fbi-files-part-2/

Known info about Pellicano - https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/tag/anthony-pellicano/
 

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‘Leaving Neverland’ transcript. The first half hour of LIES and DISTORTION
MARCH 22, 2019


READ HERE this mega article: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2...t-the-first-half-hour-of-lies-and-distortion/

If you are attentive enough when watching this film and if you compare it with the two guys’ lawsuits, you will realize that it is not only Robson, Safechuck and their relatives who lie there, but it is also director Dan Reed who is complicit, because he makes their lies sound even more sinister than they actually are.

You can’t help making this conclusion when you see the free and willful way he edits the footage and changes the timeline of the events to the point of no recognition.

Of course these lies could be initially presented to Dan Reed in their wrong succession, but a real documentary film maker should still do proper research, at least as regards the timeline of the events he wants to present in his story.

So what you will see in this series of posts is not only the analysis of the two guys’ lies, but also the role of the film director in making their story even worse than his two main characters actually tell it.

Below is the partial transcript of the first half hour of the film with some of its segments compared with the court documents and thus setting the timeline straight. In my opinion even if the events are falsely described they should still come in the right order, and not turn into a separate weird fantasy of the film director.
 

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Anyone that knows Anthony will speak.. he is a narccisist that loves power & attention. He loves the mob like fear people have for him! he'll speak...



PS. regarding the pedo-propoganda... In the large picture, they are not trying to normalize pedophelia, it feels that way because of the story Dan Reed + dumb and dumber put together thanks to Victors book.. So yes there is pedo-propaganda involved but the overall picture is protection of the 'elite'.. and protection with whatever crimes they commit, it could be sexual abuse and/or other.. They are taking advantage of the sensationalism that surrounds Michael..
KOPV, fans have to stop putting things in the universe. We do not know if he will speak and just pray and hope this fool does not come and start trouble with lies. We should just leave it at that. Do not talk him up to speak.
 

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It was amazing watching Dan Reed get destroyed on French television

I don't know why most media doesn't go hard against him.

I remember Piers asking Reed once, "What evidence are you talking about"

And Reed says, "You know, the soiled underwear of wade"

LOL

How do hosts of a tv show just let that fly. SO just saying it makes it evidence?
 

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Terrell, I get what you are saying, and I am not saying specifically he will talk about Michael.. He has already stated that he has a lot to say when he gets out and preaches like he's going to blow the lid off of hollywood.. That's what I am speaking towards!
 

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I haven't followed much of this private investigator, I know he got that tape. I always thought he was for Michael.
 

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can someone please hack wades, james, dans, joys, chantals facebook and email accounts?
 

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Terrell, I get what you are saying, and I am not saying specifically he will talk about Michael.. He has already stated that he has a lot to say when he gets out and preaches like he's going to blow the lid off of hollywood.. That's what I am speaking towards!
I just read the files above. he seem to have continue to defend MJ and he never made the negative comments towards MJ. I remember him back then and he defended MJ to end but I do not trust him since he went to prison. i am going to hope for the best.
 

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G-B_24;4251307 said:
It was amazing watching Dan Reed get destroyed on French television

I don't know why most media doesn't go hard against him.

I remember Piers asking Reed once, "What evidence are you talking about"

And Reed says, "You know, the soiled underwear of wade"

LOL

How do hosts of a tv show just let that fly. SO just saying it makes it evidence?

What I wanna know is who are these LAPD people that Dan Reed claims knew MJ was guilty? That’s the excuse he uses whenever someone points out that he was under surveillance by the FBI.
 
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Geffen and Oprah watching it on his yacht? The zero questioning by the media? The complete refusal to present the estate side? That's all just coincidence?

I don't get what you're trying to say here. Coincidence or not, what has that to do with racism or trying to normalize pedophila? I didn't say that that there's no bigger picture behind this, like, for example, trying to distract from Weinstein. Could be (but the pictures wih Oprah and Weinstein alone are not convincing for me). Or maybe the greatest force here is just pure envy, thats a very powerful motivator.
 

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again, why doesnt brandi show some pictures of wade and herself from when they were dating? i dont get it.
 

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can someone ask brandi to post pictures of wade and herself?
 

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I just read the files above. he seem to have continue to defend MJ and he never made the negative comments towards MJ. I remember him back then and he defended MJ to end but I do not trust him since he went to prison. i am going to hope for the best.

yeah, I wonder if the estate has already got the heads up and has thought of reaching out to him.. I mean, who knows what way it could go. It could actually be a positive thing! he is the one behind the Chandler secret recording..
 

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again, why doesnt brandi show some pictures of wade and herself from when they were dating? i dont get it.

Maybe she doesn't have any. No reason why she would have kept any photos.
 

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i know what you mean and i agree. but in 8 years relationship other people should have pics too. i am not only talking about brandi and her pics. i understand if she got rid of all of them. but there must be some kind of evidence. emails, text messages, photos. dont get me wrong, i believe brandi. i just think it would be really helpful to see "happy" photos of both of them together.
 

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i cant believe chantal and joy joined pro-michael jackson facebook groups and liked mj pics on fb AFTER wade came out with his claims in 2013

HAHAHAHAHA

if not anything else we have found out already then THIS kills it all!

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1109220575589732352

but media wont talk about it lol

guys, seriously. this is a bomb shell isnt it. This should be breaking news around the world! Chantal and Joy liked PRO MJ facebook pages and pictures AFTER Wade made his abuse claims in 2013! HOW CRAZY?!?!

After amazing @prettyoungking exposed it and put all the evidences online, joy and chantal unliked all the pages and put their profiles on private.

how stupid to not have thought about their social media activities before!

big LOL




 
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i know what you mean and i agree. but in 8 years relationship other people should have pics too. i am not only talking about brandi and her pics. i understand if she got rid of all of them. but there must be some kind of evidence. emails, text messages, photos. dont get me wrong, i believe brandi. i just think it would be really helpful to see "happy" photos of both of them together.

It was the 90s. If they emailed each other there's no way she'd still have them at this point, same for texts.
 

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ok but photos.... noone can tell me that not a single photo exists.
 
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