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Silverstone said:
After emailing Sundance yesterday,I later sent a lengthy email to Channel 4 last night saying I was looking forward to hearing from them and asked if they could kindly not send a generic reply.

I just seen this appear in the news thread on my phone....it's from The Scum,I mean the Sun newspaper in the UK.....this is an extract of some of the crap they print...

"Lawyers say the King of Pop shelled out nearly $200 million to as many as 20 victims"
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I swear that headline has popped in and out of the news several times over the years. Similar shit, different day.

Like I said before in my earlier post, I'm ****ing tired of this. I just want to be a fan and not have to see this crap every couple months.
 
elusive moonwalker;4236819 said:
Because unlike the others no one claimed they saw or knew of safechuck as a victim and he had no connection to any others interms of the timeline of the 05 trial.so there was no reason for him to be involved
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I agree. IF Sneddon could have used Safechuck as a witness for his bogus case, you had better believe that he would have. It just goes to show you that Safechuck is full of crap, because he latched on to Robson’s lie for $$$.
 
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How audacious of Taj to ask the fans to fund his documentary! I wonder if he has reached out to the Estate via Jackie or directly and if so, what the Estate's response might have been.

Does the Michael Jackson Estate not have a vested interest in maintaining Michael's clean image as a family-oriented entertainer? How can they just lean back and offer nothing other than a lame statement? They better have something up their sleeves for the anniversary of his death to counter those nasty attacks! A decade of luke-warm projects without love or passion for Michael Jackson. On the contrary, they give us the 'Michael' album with fake tracks!

If Rashida Jones is able to produce a critically acclaimed docu-series about her father for netflix, then someone, someone, must be able to do this for Michael and his good reputation!
 
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VaNiL said:
A proper documentary is not something we, as fan, can fund. It has to be done by the state, just hire Michael Moore or any other well-known respected documentalist and explain everything through interviews and reenacments et. all on a 4-5 episode series on NetFlix.

MJ state is a one billion dollar enterprise, they do have the funds, the music/video rights, even MJ personal stuff and media connections to put it on NetFlix. It's a very long thing to explain for the general public, so it should be told mostly as a TV-documentary-investigation series, because it's too much info and names for people to follow in just 2h.
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I agree, but I don't think the Estate really cares about Michael's reputation.
 
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VaNiL said:
A proper documentary is not something we, as fan, can fund. It has to be done by the state, just hire Michael Moore or any other well-known respected documentalist and explain everything through interviews and reenacments et. all on a 4-5 episode series on NetFlix.

MJ state is a one billion dollar enterprise, they do have the funds, the music/video rights, even MJ personal stuff and media connections to put it on NetFlix. It's a very long thing to explain for the general public, so it should be told mostly as a TV-documentary-investigation series, because it's too much info and names for people to follow in just 2h.
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Well said, my thoughts exactly, there's a massive market for this kind of doc at the min too
 
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DO YOU REMEMBER

SO F*CKING SAD IN 2019

On November 12, 1993, Michael released an audio taped statement and explained why he had to cancel the remaining dates of his Dangerous World tour. He also thanked Elizabeth Taylor for her love & support during that challenging time in his life.

 
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wednesday said:
How audacious of Taj to ask the fans to fund his documentary! I wonder if he has reached out to the Estate via Jackie or directly and if so, what the Estate's response might have been.

Does the Michael Jackson Estate not have a vested interest in maintaining Michael's clean image as a family-oriented entertainer? How can they just lean back and offer nothing other than a lame statement? They better have something up their sleeves for the anniversary of his death to counter those nasty attacks! A decade of luke-warm projects without love or passion for Michael Jackson. On the contrary, they give us the 'Michael' album with fake tracks!

If Rashida Jones is able to produce a critically acclaimed docu-series about her father for netflix, then someone, someone, must be able to do this for Michael and his good reputation!
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It's crazy. And what about his children? Can't they do something similar to what Rashida did? Speaking of his children, has Paris said anything on Social media yet? Or any of his two sons?
 
What’s mindblowing is that people think Michael Jackson fans would still support him if there was credible evidence of guilt.

NOBODY knows more about Jackson’s trials than his fans. They can quote evidence & trial transcripts all day. They know the cases inside out & backwards.

It blows my mind that people think we only defend Michael because we’re fans. Sure, that’s definitely a reason, but we also defend him because there is a factual basis to prove his innocence.
There is literally not one minuscule piece of evidence that suggests the contrary.

Wade Robson's posthumous allegations against Michael Jackson are a typical example of a false accuser making a mockery out of the legal system.

Last year on Inside Edition Wade Robson claimed that "Every time we were together it happened. There was no night that went by that I was with him that he didn't sexually abuse me."
 
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I seriously hope someone will make a documentary about Robson and Safechuck accusing them for abusing their kids..
That must be the only way they learn..
 
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Media cannot afford to give fans a platform on the issue of the Michael Jackson allegations, as fans will humiliate them. Truth is 99% of commentators you see on TV discussing this issue know absolutely **** all about it.
It’s been a despicable, decades-long campaign of bullshit.

TV invites alleged ‘journalists’ on to discuss Jackson’s trials; they know absolutely NOTHING about the case. They just bang on about ferris wheels & what they reckon. It’s fraud.

Ask them what Kiki Fournier testified to at trial & watch them flounder. Then ask a Jackson fan.

They can ridicule us all they want but it is a fact we know more about this case then tha mainsteam media.
We actually follow the case, read court documents, while the media almost never does its homework, they just keep repeating myths and fallacies.
 
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Oh guys, DO NOT FORGET to DOWNLOAD all available videos from YouTube or dailyMotion about Robson, the old vids and interviews in case anybody would want to block or delete them !!!!
 
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ILoveHIStory;4236841 said:
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Where did you find this and are we certain it’s regarding MJ?

A big time doco series needs to be released on something like Netflix to put an end to this once and for all.
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
It's crazy. And what about his children? Can't they do something similar to what Rashida did? Speaking of his children, has Paris said anything on Social media yet? Or any of his two sons?
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Maybe his kids are waiting to see if this comes out. We do not know what they are doing behind the scene right now to try to get this lying film killed.
 
nextbigthing56;4236843 said:
ILoveHIStory;4236841 said:
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Where did you find this and are we certain it’s regarding MJ?

A big time doco series needs to be released on something like Netflix to put an end to this once and for all.
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Don't sound like Mike. if so, it is stupid. What PR, Mike is gone and nothing has been promoted on MJ favorable about nothing. Who is being PAID online to bot armies? Not MJ fans or anyone else. Fans talk from FACTS that can be found IN COURT of LAW (and who to talk about something being money given. That is all this doc will be if shown (hope it will be cancelled) on a PAID- to- get network (HBO), so again, this can NOT be about MJ).
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BTW, there can be a connection between Corey Feldman´s attempt to make a documentary or a film about pedopfiles to the documentary about MJ as a pedophile, some jerks just used the opportunity to do something against MJ in advance and hide something really monstrous in Hollywood behind the media anti-jackson hype. It wouldnt be the first time they did this.

Lets recollect:

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It was pretty disgusted on how Matt Lauer treated him during that interview.... and then Matt was busted a few weeks later. So he was on the defense.
 
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I'm glad his kids have not said anything, it would only bring attention to it. The only reason we know is because were in MJ fan base..

They could try to do something privately! Dont bring more attention to it, sometimes screaming at it only gets everyone looking.
 
KOPV;4236847 said:
I'm glad his kids have not said anything, it would only bring attention to it. The only reason we know is because were in MJ fan base..
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Not really. News about the documentary is spreading like wildfire. Just search Michael Jackson on google (news). You’ll see it’s practically everywhere.
 
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KOPV said:
I'm glad his kids have not said anything, it would only bring attention to it. The only reason we know is because were in MJ fan base..

They could try to do something privately! Dont bring more attention to it, sometimes screaming at it only gets everyone looking.
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I agree. Where I work in the United States, I only heard two shows mention this doc and then read what the family said and I heard no more. On Friday, no one said no more about it. CNN does not even have it posted on their site and no one has brought it up on tv, no talk show gossip moment, no entertainment, etc. Again, it was a reason why all the media did not dwell on Wade and James case. When the news came about the dismissal, many did report about it even my morning news and she did it in a way as if "we already know this was a lie".
 
nextbigthing56;4236848 said:
Not really. News about the documentary is spreading like wildfire. Just search Michael Jackson on google (news). You&#8217;ll see it&#8217;s practically everywhere.
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Yeah but who is doing search MJ? I doubt many people do only if they just go into that site; BUT you notice, hardly NO ONE is posting about Wade's and James lawyer saying "they are doing this to be heard". Hardly no one is picking that up. That tells you something as well.
 
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terrell;4236850 said:
Yeah but who is doing search MJ? I doubt many people do only if they just go into that site; BUT you notice, hardly NO ONE is posting about Wade's and James lawyer saying "they are doing this to be heard". Hardly no one is picking that up. That tells you something as well.
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Agree with this. Here in the UK, at the time Wade first made his allegations back in 2013 or whenever it was, there was barely any coverage of it. It will be the same for this, except when/if that tv documentary gets shown on channel 4. That is when things could get messy depending on how much promo they do, how many people watch it, how believable Wade and Jimmy come across etc etc. I&#8217;m hoping it will pass without too much fuss, but that&#8217;s just a hope at the moment.
 
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Dont forget to refresh the memories....




Must watch film: The Hunt (2012) - A harrowing story of false allegations and mob mentality. Eerily parallels what Michael Jackson endured.
 
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This is the EXACT moment - August 16 - during the rehearsals in Thailand, Michael find out about the Los Angeles Police Department's Sexually Exploited Child Unit began a criminal investigation.
He didn’t want to sing, and by the end it looks like he was crying, he knew about the allegations since at least early/mid July, after hearing the secretly recorded phone convos between Evan and David Schwartz.

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On August 21, a search warrant was issued, allowing police to search Neverland Ranch.

On the day the allegations were made public, August 24, Michael Jackson began the third leg of his Dangerous World Tour, in Bangkok.
That same day, Michael Jackson's investigator held a press conference accusing Chandler of trying to extort $20 million. He did not mention that Jackson had made several counter-offers.

On August 25, Jackson's young friends Brett Barnes and Wade Robson held a press conference in which they stated that they had slept in the same bed as Jackson, but nothing sexual in nature had occurred.
 
 
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So, I sent an email out to Sundance. I'm not sure if it's allowed to share the email in a forum post, but I actually received a response back from a guy named Adam Montgomery. It wasn't one of those automated messages. He asked which part I specifically take issue with the documentary. I replied back, I haven't heard back from him yet, but if I do it probably won't be until after the weekend. I'll admit I'm not the greatest at writing messages about this, but I try my best. But it really might be worth it for people to send him an email because he may be willing to listen.
 
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ILoveHIStory said:
Last year on Inside Edition Wade Robson claimed that "Every time we were together it happened. There was no night that went by that I was with him that he didn't sexually abuse me."
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I cannot even comprehend what human beings are capable of doing sometimes. Wade Robson and Safechuck are vermin. :puke:
 
I’ve send an email to Sundance as well. Saying that this needs to stop, and if they won’t the fans will use their voice.
 
CaptainEoLove85;4236860 said:
So, I sent an email out to Sundance. I'm not sure if it's allowed to share the email in a forum post, but I actually received a response back from a guy named Adam Montgomery. It wasn't one of those automated messages. He asked which part I specifically take issue with the documentary. I replied back, I haven't heard back from him yet, but if I do it probably won't be until after the weekend. I'll admit I'm not the greatest at writing messages about this, but I try my best. But it really might be worth it for people to send him an email because he may be willing to listen.
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Lol what part do we have issue with? Maybe the fact it’s a 4 hour slander fest with lies already disproven and thrown out of court?? What a moron
 
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