Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Another thing I will say is Safechucks mother comes over as very false and scripted
 
now I have to admit Safechuck comes over ( to an impartial person ) imo as VERY believable.

he was just a freeloaders child. both famillys are seriously tapped , sinister and calculating. the mothers are super scary. (safechuck's esp)
 
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All the faxes must go trough a test to know if they are real and not from Jocobshagen in my opinion!!!
For me Jacobshagen is linked to this documentary.
He sold his story to the tabloids only one day after the sundance premier with the book in his arm. What it seams to be planed.

I mean how old did the paper of these faxes looked?

When they over 25 years old, they have to be yellow or not?

The faxes are most definetly real and look old , browned , yellowed
 
Sometimes I feel like we are beeing to negative because a lot of people do see through it.
 
All in all however this does not convince me any differently. I still do not believe for a second MJ did any of these things but I can see how an impartial person may be a bit meh. Though we know MJ and there really is no evidence. Also may I add this documentary should never have been allowed to air. It's defamatory.
 
Most of Reddit is on team liars
Most of Twitter is on Team MJ

Has anyone else seen the response? Surprisingly positive from what I've seen.

Do you have links to the reddit posts?
 
All in all however this does not convince me any differently. I still do not believe for a second MJ did any of these things but I can see how an impartial person may be a bit meh. Though we know MJ and there really is no evidence. Also may I add this documentary should never have been allowed to air. It's defamatory.
It is absoulutely shameful and disgraseful and I have read reactions from several real victims who feel offended. I changes my opinion on.... Oprah for promoting it.
 
Looks like the old mjjforum is about to reopen. I will register as soon as it does and be on both sites but maybe we can also work together?
 
The faxes are most definetly real and look old , browned , yellowed

But you can pull old fax paper trough a fax machine.

Remember that the maker of this sunday night special is linked to dan reed. ( Is it right that we find that out?)

I guess the interview with Jacobshagen took place when they shoot the pictures for the tabloid article, cause I think Jocobshagen wears the same dress.
So was this story maybe planed from dan reed and his friend who made the suday night special?
 
It is just things you would not write to a child , things like love you , I miss you "my little one" , the lullaby also is just creepy. I am only talking impartially I will have to go back and look at part 1 , they are sent to the mother / son it is made to make it look like they are sent to him but i think that is Reed trying to spin it in a twisted way. I don't believe MJ did these things it's just upsetting to watch what I have just watched . I feel the whole thing is just a horrible tragedy. If they are lying then they should be charged with purgery but they know they can't be touched and they can say anything they want.

They were to Joy, Wade and his sister. You have to keep in mind MJ called Karen turtle and had a nick name for frank delio and for everyone. That was his way of being affectionate. In one of the faxes he tells Joy he was so lonely the previous night he thought of going into the streets to ask anyone of they would like to speak with him. Desperate and lonely. There is definitely a pattern in his behaviour. Whenever he found an ordinary family accepting of him he would clinch into them until he felt something aint right and he start distancing himself. Now people are saying this is his way of grooming telling families that he was so lonely they were his new friends and we he was finished with them he would move to new families and new victims. Very plausible except for the fact there are many other families with the exact similar experiences with him who still swear he had never done anything wrong.
 
If M was alive those two would be all up in his face , on the phone , making plans "ooh how are you mike?" going to barb-b-ques- eating all his food , roaming around in michaels home and being the self opportunists that they are . If michael was alive they would be right up his arse. they would be the ones with the biggest smiles and always at the front. I feel that robson and safechuck can be added to the long list of people who had a role to kill michael .


I aslo think that dan reed is a big opportunist ugly **** that needs to be shut down, :lies: much like joyryde the dj tbh. some people are good in the business. some are bad. (off topic)

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five mins of fame boys!
 
But you can pull old fax paper trough a fax machine.

Remember that the maker of this sunday night special is linked to dan reed ( Is it right that we find that out?)

I guess the interview with Jacobshagen took place when they shoot the pictures for the tabloid article, cause I think Jocobshagen wears the same dress.
So was this story maybe planed from dan reed and his friend who made the suday night special?

There is absolutely nothing incriminating in them. NOTHING.
 
https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1102426422893838338

Here are the fax notes. Read for yourself and make up your mind.

This is sad, look at the some of these faxs. They were clearly opportunist from the get go and MJ was nothing more than a friend who tried to help them.

"Tell little one to read my message every night before sleep. I will practice because practice makes perfect. "

Little one thanx for being my friend also love always.
 
Friday would be a good day to release a song. Idk what’s in the vaults but a collaboration would be a nice surprise. Obviously innocent, there’s a lot of children Michael knew, a lot, none of them have said anything, it’s just a very small portion who have seen the opportunity
 
"Tell little one to read my message every night before sleep. I will practice because practice makes perfect. "

Little one was the name for wade right?
I think MJ wrote this fax during the bad times after his fathers death to make him feel better that he can sleep at night.

How evil to use this against him!!!

Its bad that the faxes have no dates on it to bring them in a time context!
 
Almost finished part one. The faxes from Michael to Wade are all to do with Wade's career lol. Credit to Dan Reed for this propaganda piece, but it's not working. I especially like the parts after Wade and Jimmy talk about the abuse and then stare off into the distance like it's a painful memory. Don't get into acting fellas.
 
Forgive me, but just got to the MJ showing Wade porn section. Sorry to be graphic, but apparently a grown mans penis in his mouth was ok and something he "looked forward to" when visiting with Michael again after being away in Australia. But later when he got back and MJ started showing him porn (a "new thing" straight from the Arvizo trial)... that wasn't ok. That wasn't so fun. And he still looks so troubled by it. Ok, Wade.
 
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