[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

What do you want them to say please tell me? They are treating this case like she's a real accuser. Like they're supposed to
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Hahaha. This is the kind of stuff that probably made the schools and church settle. Ain't gonna work here.
Love that note. Looks like they lifted the "crazy for you" line from Lisa Marie's love note.

Actually I checked it. His writing, the way he writes "I'm crazy for you" is totally different there. LOL. But what is really telling that these letters are not how MJ expressed himself. It is totally off and too try hard. Actually the letters aren't incriminating - but they look fake as hell. As for the checks, they can be for anything and some doesn't even show a recepient, so who they were even for? It is just off and weird.

Sounds like Daniel Kapon level. Like they pulled some random person to accuse him. So I'd really like to know the name.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I've seen many notes written by MJ but the ones provided by "Jane Doe" don't sound like him at all. I suppose the handwriting and grammar look similar enough (this can easily be faked though) but the style of writing is way different. Michael wouldn't start three consecutive sentences with "but", "but", "and". If anything, he'd make a long run-on sentence, usually without any punctuation, lol. The notes read like they were written by a third grader.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So Michael paid out $600,000 in cheques to a teenage girl in 1993 and the FBI didn't notice anything? Riiiight.

Also, I don't know how this whole cheque system works but I didn't see Michael's signature anywhere?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

but they look fake as hell. As for the checks, they can be for anything and some doesn't even show a recepient, so who they were even for? It is just off and weird.


Why would the recipient have these checks anyway after she got the money?
Cancelled checks are sent to the owner of the bank account not the recipient
and they are marked as cancelled.


What do you want them to say please tell me? They are treating this case like she's a real accuser. Like they're supposed to

I said what they should say. They should be forceful and not just "we believe it's without merit"
but point out the absurdity of the case and how Robson's lawyers made it up as a dirty and desperate legal tactic.
The most obvious would be to point out what respect said: if MJ refused to pay off the Chandlers
why would he silence this random person with money?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

You don't argue cases in the press.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

How convenient that when Finaldi goes "victim" shopping someone suddenly discovers she was abused.

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BTW, the complaint is incredibly sloppy. No details at all. Basically just "he abused me, did this or that or that. Groomed me. Groomed my parents. Payed me money." But no details. At least Robson/Safechuck have a detailed account of their interactions with MJ because they actually did have interactions that they can use as reference points in their story. But this person doesn't even seem to have that.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I said what they should say. They should be forceful and not just "we believe it's without merit"
but point out the absurdity of the case and how Robson's lawyers made it up as a dirty and desperate legal tactic.
The most obvious would be to point out what respect said: if MJ refused to pay off the Chandlers
why would he silence this random person with money?

Bringing up other accusers or going into details about the allegations at this stage is an awful idea. The Estate's response was just fine.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I thought nothing would surprise me anymore, but now they're claiming he was into girls too..? wow ok, now we've officially had it all - boys, men, girls, woman.. animals. But of course he was also asexual :smilerolleyes: I wonder what's next

Regarding the 'evidence', I don't think I can really say what he would or wouldn't write, but that letter does look like it could very well be his handwriting imo. That isn't proof of anything sinister happening though. She wouldn't be the first one who's gotten gifts, money & letters from him - although at this point there isn't even proof it was addressed to her or belongs to her. The checks are barely legible, where does it say they're from Michael? Where's his signature?
The whole thing just sounds so random and weird. I think they're really trying to portray him as this predator who'd just lure random children in and molest them on the spot at any given chance..-_- I definitely feel like this is a result of WR's lawyers fishing for victims. It's not unlikely this could be someone who's actually had a brief friendship with Michael as a kid and is now willing to make some money on it.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

How convenient that when Finaldi goes "victim" shopping someone suddenly discovers she was abused.

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BTW, the complaint is incredibly sloppy. No details at all. Basically just "he abused me, did this or that or that. Groomed me. Groomed my parents. Payed me money." But no details. At least Robson/Safechuck have a detailed account of their interactions with MJ because they actually did have interactions that they can use as reference points in their story. But this person doesn't even seem to have that.

Even granting that she was actually abused, who can believe this? She was repeatedly fondled and raped by the most famous man in the world, received almost a million dollars in hush money, but when she later had psychological trauma she had no idea it was related to the abuse she suffered? Come on now.
 
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You don't argue cases in the press.

But Rosbon/Safechuck lawyers DO argue cases in the press. And the Estate's response is wishy washy without ever pointing out
the most obvious flaws in these ridiculous claims. MJ has been killed by the media and the Estate has done nothing to counter
their narrative.

Regarding the 'evidence', I don't think I can really say what he would or wouldn't write, but that letter does look like it could very well be his handwriting imo.

I may be wrong but I don't remember any note written by MJ to another person which stars with
Hello and where he sign it as just Michael.

Is there such a note?
 
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How convenient that when Finaldi goes "victim" shopping someone suddenly discovers she was abused.

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so now you have to have had "specialized training in psychology" to figure out being molested is traumatizing? Lmao, ok. Also she never heard about the other allegations before..? c'mon.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Never mind the absurdity of keeping love letters of your molester for 30 years. This whole thing is just so ridiculous, I hope the public can see it too.
 
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But Rosbon/Safechuck lawyers DO argue cases in the press. And the Estate's response is wishy washy without ever pointing out
the most obvious flaws in these ridiculous claims. MJ has been killed by the media and the Estate has done nothing to counter
their narrative.

Losers argue cases in the media.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

She must have been seen by lots of people, if she was on the sets of Moonwalker and Smooth Criminal. I guess the Tax authorities would have taken interest in an income like that...it's rather hard to hide... And how did she explain it to her family?
 
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900,000 dollars is a lot of money, I hope she paid her TAXES. Is there a statue of limitation on not paying Taxes?
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And no one in the family notices this 12 year old has tons of money?
 
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I hope her name will be leaked. I think they hide it because they know she would be easily debunked.
 
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..riiiight :smilerolleyes:
 
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What is a Valentine picture anyway?
Do they want to say the girl sent something to him on Valentine day?
Do Jehova Witnesses celebrate Valentine day?

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..riiiight :smilerolleyes:



You know she didn't see that Jordan Jason and Gavin were not physically injured
after they accused MJ. She somehow missed that.

:smilerolleyes:
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I may be wrong but I don't remember any note written by MJ to another person which stars with
Hello and where he sign it as just Michael.

Is there such a note?

I wouldn't know from the top of my head, but what would that prove? Just because there isn't a note known to the public that starts with him writing 'hello' doesn't mean it's impossible for him to have written one.
 
Just a reminder of this story and their modus operandi about these lawyers:

SHOCK STORY: Notorious Church-Suing Lawyer Obtained Clients by Phoning Parishioners and ‘Fishing for Victims’

November 13, 2012 By TheMediaReport.com
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Unethical conduct for financial gain? Southern California contingency lawyer John C. Manly

Southern California contingency lawyer John Manly, who has pocketed millions of dollars by suing the Catholic Church, has now admitted that his office has obtained clients for abuse lawsuits by making unsolicited phone calls to Catholic Church parishioners.
This startling new revelation in the Catholic Church abuse narrative was exclusively reported by Sue Nowicki at The Modesto Bee newspaper.
According to Nowicki's piece, numerous individuals in the Diocese of Stockton (Calif.) have said that they received unsolicited phone calls to their homes from a woman hired by Manly. These calls, they claim, left them to conclude that Manly was "fishing" for victims in the case of an accused Catholic priest, Fr. Michael E. Kelly.
Manly has admitted that he hired the woman, but only to "investigate" Kelly.
Busted?
The obvious question for Manly is this: For what other reason would a Church-suing contingency lawyer "investigate" a Catholic priest except to garner clients?
Confronted with the charge that he was "fishing for victims," Manly, of course, denied the claim.
"We don't call people and ask if they want to be in lawsuits," Manly said in part to Nowicki. "That's not happening; it's not what we do. What we are doing is investigation. 'Did you ever see anything that was odd with Father Kelly?' That's how we got our first client."
So Manly has pretty much admitted that he found his first client against Fr. Kelly by "investigating" areas where the cleric worked. Wow.

The phone calls revealed


Some recipients of the phone calls from Manly's employee say the calls left them "infuriated and disgusted." Nowicki reports:
"[One recipient said] she was given the 'strong impression' that if she said her son, now 32, was interested in filing a lawsuit, 'they would have jumped all over that. They were going to find something (against Kelly), regardless if there was any cause for action.'"
And another:
"[Another woman] tried to tell [the caller] that she has known Kelly for three decades and described his positive influence on her sons. 'She told me she has found 10 more victims … She was going on and on and tried to convince me that I was stupid and didn't realize this was going on. I finally had to hang up on her.'"
Are these calls legal?
In her article, Nowicki reveals, "According to the state Bar Association, it is unethical for attorneys to make calls soliciting clients for financial gain." Indeed, it will be interesting to see if the California bar says anything about Manly's actions. (In 2006, by the way, Manly was sanctioned by a judge for "unacceptable" conduct.)
Thomas Beatty, a lawyer who has represented Fr. Kelly, questioned the calls' legality:
"I think it's an inducement into making false claims. I don't think that mass telephoning at every church and every school that (Kelly has) served at to drum up business is a proper way to do things."​
Yet another recipient of a phone call sums up how many would feel after such an episode:
"As a teacher, I feel vulnerable. If former students from 20 years ago can be gathered over the phone to make statements against former teachers, we're all at risk, including police officers, doctors, nurses, coaches, etc."​
About the accused priest

 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wouldn't know from the top of my head, but what would that prove? Just because there isn't a note known to the public that starts with him writing 'hello' doesn't mean it's impossible for him to have written one.

No but it's just another sign that it's not his writing style, that this is a forgery.
If all the other known notes written by him to other people do not start with Hello
and signed as Michael it would be strange that this one to this person does.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Her mother should be Arrested and Charged with PROSTITUTION of a minor. And maybe the LIES will stop.
 
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The alleged "victim". Does anyone have this pic in original?

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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Finaldi posted it. Along with other alleged correspondence: http://www.contentplace.net/FM/Photos.pdf

All fan corresponcence.

This is sure as hell was not written by MJ:

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The rest of it is the kind of stuff MJ wrote, sent to a lot of people.
None of it is incriminating.

She was raped and she kept all these stuff because she too loved his rapist
until now that she realized she hated him after all.
 
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