"Sub"?? Bruh, this isn't Reddit!
Well tbf Frank was certainly the King of the Crooners and a massive massive star both in music and film."Sub"?? Bruh, this isn't Reddit!
Anyway. No hate towards Frank Sinatra, but he's no "King of Pop".
Also IMO anyone who keeps downplaying MJ's legacy, on a fan forum of all places, should just delete their account here and go work for Rolling Stone instead.
Well, 'pop' as in 'popular' for the time. Not pop music as it's understood today with the type of sound a lot of pop music has.
Indeed, and he was a true genius, imo. Ngl, I wasn't keen on the big hits he had in the 1960's and later on. Basically those songs you just listed. His earlier stuff and the songs from his films are the ones I prefer. But he was genius. For me, he was.
I don't know if it was ever an official designation. Chairman of the Board and Ol' Blue Eyes are the titles that most people know. But he has (allegedly) sold more singles than Michael. He had a really successful film career, he won an Oscar and a Golden Globe. He started his own record label. I think by any reasonable measure he could be a contender for the title 'the king of pop'. Not that I care and I don't know if such a 'title' was ever used for him in his lifetime.
I love a lot of the classic musicals once they are turned into Hollywood films but musical theatre, generally, is not my jam. But SoM is so embedded into popular culture. Or maybe not, lol.
I am not that young, but you are talking to someone who spent their life buried in books and work, away from pop culture, and I am proud of that because I overcame a LOT to build the life I have today. Up until I became a fan, I used to think Michael Jackson is someone who did these loud fast songs like Thriller and Beat It,Hiker can I ask how old you are?
I was reading your posts and I'm flabbergasted that you've never heard of Frank Sinatra? Like seriously?
Imagine that!! Of course I knew him as someone very big in pop culture, king of pop, but I had nothing to do with that culture. It blew my mind 
to find out that YANA is also Michael, and that's how this whole journey started, . And I have no interest in expanding my horizons to outside of Michael's music. He takes about 110% of my time now 
I could easy believe Frank sold more singles than MJ - Frank also released more than 100 singles I would guess - MJ only released 30-40 singles in his adult carreer. Frank is one of my favorites too - he is the best crooner ever. I have many of his concerts on DVD, concerts for the Americans is amazing. - One of my favorites is Love been good to me. - Not very known I think and I doubt he ever sang it at live concerts, but he sings it with so much passion, feeling and emotion - great song and delivery.Well, 'pop' as in 'popular' for the time. Not pop music as it's understood today with the type of sound a lot of pop music has.
Indeed, and he was a true genius, imo. Ngl, I wasn't keen on the big hits he had in the 1960's and later on. Basically those songs you just listed. His earlier stuff and the songs from his films are the ones I prefer. But he was genius. For me, he was.
I don't know if it was ever an official designation. Chairman of the Board and Ol' Blue Eyes are the titles that most people know. But he has (allegedly) sold more singles than Michael. He had a really successful film career, he won an Oscar and a Golden Globe. He started his own record label. I think by any reasonable measure he could be a contender for the title 'the king of pop'. Not that I care and I don't know if such a 'title' was ever used for him in his lifetime.
Here is the source for the claim re the record sales figures. No idea if this info is reliable but it is recent.
NJ's Sinatra, Elvis Or Michael Jackson: Who Is # 1 In Sales?
NJ's Sinatra, Elvis Or Michael Jackson: Who Is # 1 In Sales?wpgtalkradio.com
Sounds about right. He released 59 studio albums in his lifetime, I believe.
Well, I've always taken him for granted and been a bit blase about him. Maybe precisely bc he was SO prolific and also did so many successful films which is the bit of his career I love the most. Anyway, I suddenly feel the need to do a bit of rapid reassessment, lol.
Oh, it's funny you should say that. Just today I was watching an interview clip where he was adamant he's not a crooner. I already can't remember the details. Between him and Quincy Jones, I've posted so much today it's all beginning to blur, lol. I didn't post the clip and didn't bookmark it. But I thought it was interesting to hear his thoughts on this. I just recently picked up a copy of Bill Zehme's book, Frank Sinatra and the Lost Art of Livin' - don't know if there's anything on this in there. I'll have to see.
Oh, I created a thread for Frank today but didn't think to add that one.
It is gorgeous. It's pretty well known in the UK, I would say. Top 10 hit in the 1960's. Not my fave - I'm not sure I have a fave song from Frank. I don't listen to him loads, ngl. But that is a great song. Let me go and find it.- Not very known I think and I doubt he ever sang it at live concerts, but he sings it with so much passion, feeling and emotion - great song and delivery.
This.
Yea, even I know who Frank Sinatra is! And I'm only 12
Interesting, yes.
SINTARA Lmaoooworse! European
Seriously though, I am really not into music. Pop culture was never part of my life up until last year. Even now its just Michael, I don't venture beyond that. So my not knowing this Sintara person does not hurt his popularity.
I would say that is probably one of the most important things when we want to understand what was going on in Michael's mind a lot of times.
Trying to make the best deals that serve his interests and big goals.Yep, same. It's a silly marketing gimmick.
