I don't know what level of belt Michael got besides the honorary 5th degree one, but given his extraordinary talent as a dancer, I suspect he would be able to learn the karate moves a lot faster than most people.Just wanted to point out that it's not a "real" black belt. I assume to get that, you have to train many years. I don't have much knowledge in that area though.
I would say every man can do that? Maybe we should define the word "strength", I feel like I have a different view on things
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No, not all men can do that. There are men who can't lift a woman even small.I would say every man can do that? Maybe we should define the word "strength", I feel like I have a different view on things
Never made that experience
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(sorry, don't want to be a meanie).
Nah, men are generally stronger because they have more muscle over all. Especially in the upper body, lower body is not such a big difference.
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That's what I'm saying! But no, you're not boring! You have your point of view, and I have mine for sure, but at no point are you being annoying, don't worry haha.
SameI have mixed feelings about what you're saying
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Ok, then let's agree to disagreeIf I can successfully lift a heavy table without help and without pain, I can be considered strong. For me, it's as simple as that; you shouldn't look for something relative. It all depends on what you consider strong and heavy.
She's going in circles because it's based on a different perspective, namely the subjectivity surrounding strength and what we personally consider strong or heavy. And we can't have a debate about a point of view.
It depends on each individual, of course. We can say that beyond 50kg and without pain, a person can be considered quite strong. And really, when someone lifts 70 to 80kg, heavy things, without apparent effort or successfully, yes, for me, they are strong. Michael was strong. I believe Lou Ferrigno, Ron McDowell, and Jermaine Jackson when they say that Michael was trained and strong.
Well, yes, it all depends on the texture, but you're not going to lift the same weight when you lift a sheet of paper compared to a wooden board and a huge rock.
No, don't worry, we're not arguing at all, we're just giving our arguments
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He was very impressive, a furious beast! (me too, I'm MJPerv lool 
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Bet he was stronger than many of his peers.
No, it doesn't bother me, but like I said: let's agree to disagree. I would only repeat what I already wroteI understand better what you mean; you weren't talking about the number of muscles in the body, but muscle mass.
We have the same number of muscles, yes. It's just that they don't develop in the same way. Men have always been socially perceived as stronger because they developed their strength more than women. But that's just an average; men are more inclined to play sports, thus developing their muscle AND probably their strength. That's why social factors have had an impact on biological factors. But on average, the average man might only lift slightly less than his own body weight. I'm taller than the average man in my country. It depends on the region of the world, your metabolism, and socially; it's more complicated than simply saying "on average, men have more muscle mass." It's just an average, and it doesn't necessarily mean that men are stronger. The species evolves, and hypotheses and corrections are made as science improves. ^^ Ask ChatGPT :3
Besides, you shouldn't try to compare a dancer and a powerlifter; they're not the same thing, and they don't have the same goal. A powerlifter who trains specifically for it for years is obviously the most qualified. As for pure strength, Michael was naturally strong, and if he had been a powerlifter, he would have been a champion in that field, given his already considerable base strength. But that wasn't Michael's dream, and he made that clear to Lou Ferrigno during training sessions. Michael has aptitudes and predispositions for strength.
Then again, it's subjective. Many pros and fans find Michael very strong, myself included. He could lift me without any problem, I'm sure of it, lol!
I don't think I'll manage it even if I try, lol. I can't imagine lifting my own weight when I can't even lift a fifth of it. I hope you're not angry because we can't agree; it's just that I have a less general perspective because every body is different, and sometimes you can be surprised by anything, so it's normal that I try to be specific, etc. I hope this doesn't bother you...
It doesn't matter; endurance is the most difficult thing, but not the most important. But for me, a tall but not strong woman, Michael had both
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I don't believe we're both right, but some of what we're saying must be true; everyone's entitled to their opinion, let's leave it at that. I won't change my mind about what I think of Michael's body specifically, I won't repeat myself.No, it doesn't bother me, but like I said: let's agree to disagree. I would only repeat what I already wrote
At least we can agree on the 18+ part
It's definitely all about body upper body strength to me and M had...those shoulders.
(That triangle shape he had , and enhancing that through dance and performances , attracted me very much more..so much so ..more so, than the bottom half that people are attracted to , his feet etc ..
( ..This is why the thoracic spine thread reasonably exists ..do you know what I mean?)
Super duper strong upper body. Well defined shoulders .. I've only got to peek at In The Closet,.. or the 1993 soul train Remember The Time live performance ...! Feast your eyes !Yo!
I want a Michael's chest thread with no shirt haaaaaaaa!!
