- Oct 30, 2022
Truly! It is highest of the calibre.CLHGW sets a high standard, though!
Truly! It is highest of the calibre.CLHGW sets a high standard, though!
That's not heretic. Just a bit advanced. I mostly agree though tbh.I prefer the demo of Hollywood Tonight more than Billie Jean.
I admire that honestly, I have a terrible tendency to let the negative get to me too much. And then I wonder why I sometimes feel so terrible...I like to have fun with my MJ fandom. I ignore as many of the negative takes as I can.
In terms of iconicism, you are literally wrong. But I respect your take.What i’m going to say next is same as suicide but i’m gonna say it
Billie Jean is not top 5 song by MJ
Yeah well it’s probably the most iconic song in my opinion as wellIn terms of iconicism, you are literally wrong. But I respect your take.
Well you can have the crowd reaction edit and I'll have the edit of MJ performing. But I know I'm alone in that. MJ's steps for me are honestly more important.The only thing I like about the MSG concerts are the crowd reactions. It is glorious to see people being so happy to see MJ performing
Anyway I might be a heretic because I literally never ever watch an MJ music video (I made an exception to watch the 4K videos twice a few months ago).
I used to but I know them all from the top of my head, I Just rather listen to his voice than watch him dance I guess
Imo Invincible would've had a good cover had they used the original image. They made MJ look like "This Man" with the edited cover lol.Apart from BOTDF and Invincible I don't like the covers of any of Michael's albums. Thriller is my least favourite album cover.
Dangerous?Apart from BOTDF and Invincible I don't like the covers of any of Michael's albums. Thriller is my least favourite album cover.
I don't exactly dislike it but I don't love it, either. I think I'm mostly disinterested. I recently read Susan Fast's book on Dangerous and she had quite a bit to say about the cover art work and that was really interesting to read, very enjoyable. If I ever get around to reading the book by Isabelle Petitjean ('Dangerous - from Mark Ryden to Michael Jackson') I will probably learn a lot more about it and I'm sure that will be interesting, also. Whether I will ever get to *like* the art work remains to be seen.Dangerous?
I really enjoyed this write‐up over at Art of Design: https://www.artofdesignonline.com/dangerous/dangerousI don't exactly dislike it but I don't love it, either. I think I'm mostly disinterested. I recently read Susan Fast's book on Dangerous and she had quite a bit to say about the cover art work and that was really interesting to read, very enjoyable. If I ever get around to reading the book by Isabelle Petitjean ('Dangerous - from Mark Ryden to Michael Jackson') I will probably learn a lot more about it and I'm sure that will be interesting, also. Whether I will ever get to *like* the art work remains to be seen.
Every now and then I have a look at it closely to see what it is that so many people find enchanting, fascinating, beautiful about the cover art. But I can't sustain any interest in it, I always get distracted.
I do want to read Isabelle's book, though. Have just re-read Brice Najar's review of it. Posting one paragraph from it in case you haven't seen it although I'm sure you have. It's been around for ages.
"It is therefore logical for the work of painter Mark Ryden to be initially approached. While they discovered this musical jewel that is the Dangerous album, fans usually lingered on its fascinating cover, before playing the Compact Disc (or the audio cassette, still frequently used in many homes in 1991…). Up till now, many of their questions had not necessarily been answered, since every one of them could make their own personal interpretation of this very detailed painting and it could be tricky to attempt to make a summary relevant to many different people. Nevertheless, Isabelle takes this initiative to demonstrate that even in such a complex context, it is not impossible to lift the veil on this work. Both men, Michael Jackson and Mark Ryden, with their own influences and experience that they have drawn from their thirst for culture in order to put their inspiration in tune. The meeting of these artists, so close and distant at the same time, when each one tried to get the best of the other, is the genesis of this fabulous album, and I confess that I was far from having fully grasped this nuance before starting reading Isabelle’s book. Through her work and conversations with Ryden, she managed to decipher all its nuances, and one has the feeling of a total discovery, almost in a troubling way. It is true that nowadays we may often find ourselves reading a book about Michael, with the feeling that we have already heard or read the information it contains, as if the artist had finally become a close friend we have known for a long time. This is not really the case when reading this opus related to Dangerous, when all these discoveries offering a wealth of learning opportunities give us a feeling of being an ant wandering among buildings. The world seems larger, the Jackson artistic universe has never seemed so timeless, breaking all the borders."
"La culture pop au panthéon des Beaux-Arts", Isabelle Petitjean-en - BRICE NAJAR“Dangerous, from Mark Ryden to Michael Jackson” Isabelle Petitjean (Delatour France – 2016) For any King of Pop’s fan, buying a book dedicated to their idol is not something that should be taken lightly. Indeed, the publications in this field are numerous, and the legitimate demands of each and...bricenajar.com
Watch the full September 10th 2001 performance of The Way You Make Me Feel, then watch any performance of the song from any of the other tours (hell even the first night) and then you can tell me whether that concert was one of his best.The 2001 MSG concert is not only great fun, it's secretly one of his best ever. Sep 10th is anyway. The main reason it's so uncomfortable is because of the awful camera work mixed with MJ's clear health issues affecting his appearance.
I'm aware of the editing.Watch the full September 10th 2001 performance of The Way You Make Me Feel, then watch any performance of the song from any of the other tours (hell even the first night) and then you can tell me whether that concert was one of his best.
I'm not talking about the editing (which indeed is pretty awful), I'm talking about the performance.I'm aware of the editing.
The editing of his performance based on his health, yeah, I get it. The whole show is not too even for sure. Still. MJ even at his worst is still much more captivating than most on their average good days. Of course at 42 he wasn't as good as he was in the 80s/90s, especially under those conditions. But for the sheer iconism of certain moments, I just enjoy it a lot. The way MJ effortlessly out dances usher in his prime, specifically is why I say it's just so cool.I'm not talking about the editing (which indeed is pretty awful), I'm talking about the performance.
How about The Jackson Five’s One More Chance?I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but I think that One More Chance by The Jacksons is a lot better than MJ's song.
Ngl, had no idea it existed until right now LOL.How about The Jackson Five’s One More Chance?
And that I think hanging out with Uri Geller, Arnold Klein, the Casios, in certain eras Liz Taylor, Sigfield and Roy, and others like that (Definitely BASHIR; MJ had absolutely terrible picks for television interviews and guest appearances later on), were quite cringe. Way more cringe than Heal the World or Lost Children or any of his art, which is always at least earnest and very human. Doing stuff in the odd end of Hollywood with so many weirdos like that, cameoing in a D List Movie like the Castaway Girls, I mean come on. Yet Chris Tucker never bothered me and I always love them together. MJ in the 70s and 80s would never be with guys like those others though. Just Emmanuel Lewis a lot but still. But it just varies depending on options I guess. I'm rambling a lot also.