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Invincible 25th Anniversary

Unlike the previous 4 ,this album was a huge disappointment when I got it on release day in 2001 but I often wonder
how I would feel about the songs if recorded 10-15 years earlier.
 
I also got it on release. The first MJ album I bought on release day. What can I say? I listened to it over and over and loved it so much that I started buying all the Jackson 5 albums, Jackson's albums, and missing MJ albums.
 
In Unbreakable there is this line:
I'm steady laughin', while surfacing
If you look at the Invincible cover, you can see that he is constantly smiling. Do you think his smile could be inspired by the line in Unbreakable?
I'm just interested in the smile. It's been known for a long time that the entire cover was inspired by a photo. It's worth noting that the person in this photo isn't laughing. Could Michael's smile be inspired by Unbreakable, especially considering that Unbreakable was planned as a single?
 
I'm not sure how long these have been there and if I'm just finding out about this lol, but they have recently added canvas (background animations) on Spotify for the entire Invincible album.

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love1sfatal said:
I'm not sure how long these have been there and if I'm just finding out about this lol, but they have recently added canvas (background animations) on Spotify for the entire Invincible album.

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show me more please! I don't have spotify!
 
Hot_Street said:
I also got it on release. The first MJ album I bought on release day. What can I say? I listened to it over and over and loved it so much that I started buying all the Jackson 5 albums, Jackson's albums, and missing MJ albums.
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Which color do you have?
 
Hot_Street said:
In Unbreakable there is this line:
I'm steady laughin', while surfacing
If you look at the Invincible cover, you can see that he is constantly smiling. Do you think his smile could be inspired by the line in Unbreakable?
I'm just interested in the smile. It's been known for a long time that the entire cover was inspired by a photo. It's worth noting that the person in this photo isn't laughing. Could Michael's smile be inspired by Unbreakable, especially considering that Unbreakable was planned as a single?
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I doubt it is true. Unbreakable was recorded in the mid of 2000, while picture was taken in 1999
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'd love to hear everything 97-99 material. Everything worked on prior to Darkchild coming on board the project basically.

That's no disrespect to Rodney, he's a brilliant producer and he's done some great work with Mike, but the album went in a different direction when he joined the album.
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That had nothing to do with Darkchild. When Michael started working on the album, he wanted to make something similar to OTW. So he chose this direction and tried to create album, inspired by his previos work. But when he showed material to Sony in 1999, they rejected almost everything except Break of Dawn and Cry. They said album was not good enough. They pushed on him. So he decided to completely change musical direction and make futuristic and "modern" album. That's how songs like Unbreakable, Heartbreaker, 2000 Watts and Threatened were born.
 
Masonh said:
That had nothing to do with Darkchild. When Michael started working on the album, he wanted to make something similar to OTW. So he chose this direction and tried to create album, inspired by his previos work. But when he showed material to Sony in 1999, they rejected almost everything except Break of Dawn and Cry. They said album was not good enough. They pushed on him. So he decided to completely change musical direction and make futuristic and "modern" album. That's how songs like Unbreakable, Heartbreaker, 2000 Watts and Threatened were born.
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According to Rodney Jerkins, it was the other way around.

Rodney Jerkins wanted to make a vintage/old school Michael Jackson album, but Michael Jackson himself wanted a more futuristic album:

"My first batch [of musical beats] is what I really wanted him to do. I was trying to really go vintage, old school Mike. And that's what a lot of my first stuff was, that I was presenting to him. He kept '[You] Rock My World'. But he wanted to go more futuristic" (Rodney Jerkins, VIBE Interview)
 
mj_frenzy said:
According to Rodney Jerkins, it was the other way around.

Rodney Jerkins wanted to make a vintage/old school Michael Jackson album, but Michael Jackson himself wanted a more futuristic album:

"My first batch [of musical beats] is what I really wanted him to do. I was trying to really go vintage, old school Mike. And that's what a lot of my first stuff was, that I was presenting to him. He kept '[You] Rock My World'. But he wanted to go more futuristic" (Rodney Jerkins, VIBE Interview)
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We don't know exactly when Michael said that. But it seems like that he decided to go into futuristic direction 1999 year circa. Because all "futuristic" songs were created after 1999. So my theory still works, and originally during 1997-1999 Michael indeed was trying to make vintage, old school album
 
mj_frenzy said:
According to Rodney Jerkins, it was the other way around.

Rodney Jerkins wanted to make a vintage/old school Michael Jackson album, but Michael Jackson himself wanted a more futuristic album:

"My first batch [of musical beats] is what I really wanted him to do. I was trying to really go vintage, old school Mike. And that's what a lot of my first stuff was, that I was presenting to him. He kept '[You] Rock My World'. But he wanted to go more futuristic" (Rodney Jerkins, VIBE Interview)
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Upvoting MJfrenzy in the year 2025
 
love1sfatal said:
I'm not sure how long these have been there and if I'm just finding out about this lol, but they have recently added canvas (background animations) on Spotify for the entire Invincible album.

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Yeah it's been here since earlier in the year. I noticed this I think a month or two ago. They've got some for Thriller and Beat It and Billie Jean and Chicago(!) also.

Nothing else though.
 
We need Invincible commercials restoration for 25th anniversary, right?

I found these 2 commercials, and they are so cool. I hope Estate will do something with it. Die hard fans will give all money to buy these RARE commercials for collection.


 
Hot_Street said:
The Album That Never Had a Chance: Michael Jackson’s Invincible
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Keep in mind, that Invincible still sold 13 million copies worldwide in the first few years. It's only 7 millions less than History! Even with awful promotion, this album still was a success!
 
Masonh said:
Keep in mind, that Invincible still sold 13 million copies worldwide in the first few years. It's only 7 millions less than History! Even with awful promotion, this album still was a success!
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I was under the impression that it sold somewhere between 8 and 10 million? I may be wrong?
 
aazzaabb said:
I was under the impression that it sold somewhere between 8 and 10 million? I may be wrong?
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Joe Vogel states in his book about 10M sales for Invincible. I dunno what his source was for such a figure.

Considering the total sales were boosted artificially by fans buying multiple copies (different coloured cover art), the total sales are NOT an indicator for quality.
 
Fuzball said:
Joe Vogel states in his book about 10M sales for Invincible. I dunno what his source was for such a figure.

Considering the total sales were boosted artificially by fans buying multiple copies (different coloured cover art), the total sales are NOT an indicator for quality.
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Oh yes, that is true. I haven’t read Vogel’s book since it was originally released. I have new revised paperback also. I may give it a read soon.
 
Fuzball said:
NOT an indicator for quality.
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No no no, Fuzball, you forgot one important moment)) Invincible unlike any other albums was released during the time, when people already prepared to STOP buying physical copies of music, because digital distribution started to become ubiquitous. There was no need to go to music stores, when you could just buy and download it online! So even with these terms Invincible managed to sell more than 10 million physical copies worldwide! That was incredible result in the beginning of 2000s!

Keep in note that Thriller sold 70 billion copies, because it was released in 80s, when people still went to music stores to buy music, there was no digital ditribution during that time. During Invincible era piracy and online sellings were progressing in diametric progression!

Invincible was almost as successful as History was! With good promotion and tour, it could sold around 25 million copies!!!
 
Fuzball said:
Joe Vogel states in his book about 10M sales for Invincible. I dunno what his source was for such a figure.

Considering the total sales were boosted artificially by fans buying multiple copies (different coloured cover art), the total sales are NOT an indicator for quality.
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I saw in another thread here that sales are 13m but I don't believe that.

aazzaabb said:
Oh yes, that is true. I haven’t read Vogel’s book since it was originally released. I have new revised paperback also. I may give it a read soon.
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His book's lose their shine after time, I find.
 
innuendo141 said:
I saw in another thread here that sales are 13m but I don't believe that.


His book's lose their shine after time, I find.
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I know what you mean. I’ve attempted to re-read it a few times, and the new version but I end up putting it down. I might attempt another go at some point. I quite enjoyed the original hardback when it was first released
 
7 Michael Jackson Songs That Showcase His Musical Range and Emotion.

7. “Break of Dawn”

Nestled within Invincible—an album often overshadowed by industry politics and tepid reviews—“Break of Dawn” is a lush, velvety gem. It finds Jackson returning to his romantic roots, but with a more adult tone. This isn’t a bubblegum love song; it’s sensual, grown, and gorgeously textured. It’s MJ as a soul singer, indulging in quiet seduction rather than spectacle.

The track opens with birds chirping and soft keys, setting the stage for a sunrise rendezvous. Jackson’s voice is relaxed and intimate, caressing lines like, “Let’s go down to the park / Making love ‘til it’s dark.” There’s a cinematic quality to it, like a scene unfolding in real time. The Marvin Gaye influence is evident here, particularly from albums like I Want You or Let’s Get It On. But Jackson makes it his own through his breathy delivery and harmonic layering.

“Break of Dawn” deserves praise for its simplicity and sophistication. There are no gimmicks—just pure mood. The instrumentation is warm and inviting: soft percussion, a mellow bassline, and fluttering synths that wrap around the vocals like silk. Jackson doesn’t belt or perform; he whispers, teases, and glides. It’s the kind of vocal performance that reveals its charm over repeated listens.

It also highlights an underappreciated side of Jackson: the balladeer who can set a mood without theatrics. “Break of Dawn” is MJ grown up—not chasing trends, just making beautiful music. In 2025, when sensuality in R&B has made a stylish return, this song proves Jackson was always a step ahead. You can hear its influence in artists like Miguel or Giveon—musicians who blend vulnerability with eroticism in equal measure. “Break of Dawn” is more than a hidden gem. It’s a masterclass in slow jam seduction.
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thyblackman.com

7 Michael Jackson Songs That Showcase His Musical Range and Emotion.

Revisiting these songs reminded me why Michael Jackson’s music still means so much to so many of us—not just for the glitter and chart success, but for the emotion, vulnerability, and innovation he poured into even the lesser-known corners of his catalog.
thyblackman.com thyblackman.com
 
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