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Invincible 25th Anniversary

BlackAnon said:
What did he write?
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He brought in Carlos Santana, came up with the whistling idea, got a choir, and did the arrangement - that was all him. He’s also the one who decided to add thank you line to Carlos at the end. Is that really not enough to be credited as a co-writer?
 
Paul MCC said:
He brought in Carlos Santana, came up with the whistling idea, got a choir, and did the arrangement - that was all him. He’s also the one who decided to add thank you line to Carlos at the end. Is that really not enough to be credited as a co-writer?
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So he should be credited as an arranger since the song was already written. If we're being real, isn't that what Michael did to Greg for DSTUGE?
 
RodSerling said:
He got it from the ad-libs, and he changed the first line of the song.
Also, MJ took the song to another level ( the vocals, guitar solos, the rythm, etc.).
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An ad-lib isn't a writers credit. The first line of the song is the same, no?

Him bringing in extra instruments should fall under an arrangement and he shouldn't be top billing as a writer.
 
Hot_Street said:
We don't need Sony to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Invincible with a bonus disc.
We already have it:

Hollywood Tonight
The Way You Love Me
Another Day
In The Back
Shout
Beautiful Girl
She Was Loving Me
Fall Again
A Place With No Name
Blue Gangsta
We've Had Enough
Xscape
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Invincible 25 fanart | Fandom

look at this fanart/ fanmade I made of invincible…
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Wasnt fall again on the esstinal mj collection ??
 
BlackAnon said:
An ad-lib isn't a writers credit. The first line of the song is the same, no?

Him bringing in extra instruments should fall under an arrangement and he shouldn't be top billing as a writer.
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Do you think it’s possible that Michael originally struggled to reach an agreement with the songwriters over co-writing credits?

It’s just that the song is missing from the June 2001 tracklist, which is really strange! It’s one of the best tracks, and it was fully completed by February 2001. Why wouldn't Michael plan to include it in the album from the start...

Could it have been because of the authorship rights?
 
Paul MCC said:
Do you think it’s possible that Michael originally struggled to reach an agreement with the songwriters over co-writing credits?

It’s just that the song is missing from the June 2001 tracklist, which is really strange! It’s one of the best tracks, and it was fully completed by February 2001. Why wouldn't Michael plan to include it in the album from the start...

Could it have been because of the authorship rights?
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YAML wasn't on the June list either as they were still configuring the album but it's very possible WH was in limbo with writing credits and the writers finally gave in and gave Michael credit.
 
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