July 2010 Vanity Fair: The making of "Thriller"

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Nancy Griffin on the Making of Michael Jackson’s Thriller
by Adrienne Gaffney
June 8, 2010, 12:01 AM

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Photos excerpted from Michael Jackson: the Making of “Thriller”/Four Days/1983, by Douglas Kirkland, to be published in November by Filipacchi. © 2010 Douglas Kirkland.
When Michael Jackson died one year ago this June 25, his loss generated a tidal wave of mourning and nostalgia. Journalist Nancy Griffin had tangible memories to cling to, having been present on set for the filming of Jackson’s iconic “Thriller” video. Observing Jackson firsthand at the peak of his career, and then going back to interview his key aides and collaborators, Griffin, in “The ‘Thriller’ Diaries” reflects on a man for whom all the talent in the world couldn’t stave off crippling insecurities and loneliness. Griffin speaks with director John Landis, record executives, Jackson’s co-star Ola Ray, choreographers, and others to illuminate the process of how the star created something totally revolutionary. On the backs of the record-setting LP of the same name, “Thriller” set a new standard for the infant medium of music videos with its unprecedented length, its unheard-of budget, and its unparalleled wit and dancing. This achievement came at a time when Jackson had much to be proud of. As Griffin writes: “Thriller” marked the most incandescent moment in Jackson’s life, his apex creatively as well as commercially. He would spend the rest of his career trying to surpass it. “In the Off the Wall/Thriller era, Michael was in a constant state of becoming,” says Glen Brunman, then marketing director at Jackson’s record company Epic. “It was all about the music, until it also became about the sales and the awards, and something changed forever.”
It was the “Thriller” video that pushed Jackson over the top, consolidating his position as the King of Pop, a royal title he encouraged.… The video’s frenzied reception, whipped up by round-the-clock showings on MTV, would more than double album sales, driving
Thriller into the record books as the No. 1 LP of all time, a distinction it maintains today. But, for anyone paying close attention during the making of the “Thriller” video—and Jackson’s collaborators were—the outlines of subsequent tragedies were already painfully visible.
Still living at home at the age of 25, Jackson’s problems with his family were painfully apparent during the shoot. Landis and other crew members witnessed the frequent clashes between father and son, which would become public knowledge in the coming years, when Jackson would publicly refer to Joe Jackson’s abuse.
More than once Landis found himself caught up in the twisted dynamics of the Jackson family. One night when Joseph and Katherine Jackson visited the set, the director recalls, “Michael asked me to have Joe removed. He said, ‘Would you please ask my father to leave?’ So I go over to Mr. Jackson. ‘Mr. Jackson, I’m sorry, but can you please … ?’ ‘Who are you?’ ‘I’m John Landis. I’m directing this.’ ‘Well, I’m Joe Jackson. I do what I please, and I want to be here.’ I said, ‘I’ll have to ask security to remove you if you don’t leave now.’” Landis had a policeman escort Joe Jackson off the set.
Distancing himself from his father was a theme in Michael Jackson’s life. He had to approve the reams of promotional materials that Epic generated to support “Thriller,” and one day he called the record label’s art department and asked an art director if she could retouch his nose on a famous photo of him as a child. “I want you to slim the wings of my nose,” Jackson told her. “O.K., but why, Michael?” she asked, and tried to reassure him that his face looked fine just the way it was. “I don’t want to look like my father,” Jackson replied. “Every time I look at that photograph I think I look like my father.”

Despite his unfathomable wealth and legions of rabid fans, both male and female, Jackson lived a very quiet and solitary life — neither a typical rockstar’s life nor that of an ordinary 25-year-old man.
Jackson also reveled in the company of children at Hayvenhurst, which was like a warm-up for Neverland, a kids’ paradise, which he loved sharing. He had struck up a friendship with the four-foot-three-inch television star Emmanuel Lewis, 12, with whom he would invent games and roll around on the grass, laughing. When George Folsey’s son, Ryan, 13, accompanied his father to meetings at the Jackson home, Michael behaved like a kid who was bored hanging out with the adults, jumping up to show Ryan around. They would feed the llamas, play the video game Frogger, and drive toy Model T’s around the grounds. “Michael was 25, but I’d say that he was 13,” says Ryan. “Mentally, he was 12 to 15 years behind. He could relate to me because he was my age.”

Jackson’s collaborators also gained some insight into his complicated sexuality. At one point, the singer told Landis he was still a virgin. Others noticed a child-like naïveté about sex:
Vince Paterson, who helped with the choreography in “Thriller,” says that Jackson would ask him startlingly ignorant questions about sex—“simple, biological, stupid 12-year-old questions.” He adds, “I never saw Michael as a sexual creature. He was always sort of asexual to me—some people are like that. I never had one vibe, as dynamic and electric and powerful as he was. He was like nobody I had ever met in my life. On the one hand he was so socially retarded, and on the other hand he was a creative genius.”
Perhaps no one understood this better than Ola Ray, who depicts her flirtation with Jackson as being characterized by his fragility.
“I won’t say that I’ve seen him in his birthday suit but close enough,” she says, laughing. Because he was shy, she tried not to scare him by coming on too strong. “What we had was such like a little kindergarten thing going on. I thought it was important for him to be around someone who would make him feel comfortable and that was my main objective.”
Griffin paints a portrait of Jackson that could come only from those who knew him—honest and revelatory with sympathy. To read the whole story, pick up a copy of the July 2010 issue of Vanity Fair.









http://www.vanityfair.com/online/da...-the-making-of-michael-jacksons-thriller.html


SAD!!
 
i really don't like to read what other people think of Michael or their perception about him .
But joe story is really heart breaking .people need to understand that part of his life .god bless his soul :praying:
thank u memefan for story.
 
I just can't understand. Does his sexuality has anything to do with the making with "thriller"?
 
For me Vanity Fair is Tabloid. I dont like Joe but Vanity is GARBAGE.
 
Lord,am tired of over analysis of michael's sexuality especially from people who knew next to nothing about him.Did he have to behave like a dog,sleeping with everything in sight before people accept he was a normal virile male?She could have just reviewed the making of thriller without throwing ''asexual'' and ''socially retarded in the article.
definitely not picking the magazine nor her book.
 
Wth?! This is one of the most tabloidy things I've seen from Vanity Fair since Maureen Orth's stuff.
Absolutely ridiculous, unnecessary, and irrelevant (And I strongly question the validity anyway.)

Aside from the personal stuff (I HATE it, but we've heard it all before.) It's the criticism of his art that *really* gets to me now. Seeing as how that's (usually) the only thing that no one disagrees with - Please, just let him have that! If nothing else, let his musical legacy remain untarnished and unchanged.

I'm just so sick of people going on and on about Thriller, as if it was the only notable achievement in his career and how he was never able to match it (implying that it's because his material was lacking.)

Ugh, ugh, ugh. So frustrating. I'm so tired of their bs faux tribute articles. VF will be hearing from me. :angry:
 
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Wth?! This is one of the most tabloidy things I've seen from Vanity Fair since Maureen Orth's stuff.
Absolutely ridiculous, unnecessary, and irrelevant (And I strongly question the validity anyway.)

Aside from the personal stuff (I HATE it, but we've heard it all before.) It's the criticism of his art that *really* gets to me now. Seeing as how that's (usually) the only thing that no one disagrees with - Please, just let him have that! If nothing else, let his musical legacy remain untarnished and unchanged.

I'm just so sick of people going on and on about Thriller, as if it was the only notable achievement in his career and how he was never able to match it (implying that it's because his material was lacking.)

Ugh, ugh, ugh. So frustrating. I'm so tired of their bs faux tribute articles. VF will be hearing from me. :angry:

I've been waiting for hours for someone to take this garbage out.

Where is the staff?
 
See, that is why when Vanity Fair came out with that tribute issue after Michael died, I refused to buy it. And that was a hard thing for me to do because it had such a beautiful picture of Michael on the cover; but I remember how this magazine--by means of that shriveled up elf, Maureen Orth--did a hatchet job on Michael; and how that same witch showed up on as many talk shows as possible telling misleading lies about Michael---even after he had died. I can't stomach that woman.

Media still can't resist going to 'the dark side'. It's like it's not right unless there's a put down of Michael as a person or even his work.
 
See, that is why when Vanity Fair came out with that tribute issue after Michael died, I refused to buy it. And that was a hard thing for me to do because it had such a beautiful picture of Michael on the cover; but I remember how this magazine--by means of that shriveled up elf, Maureen Orth--did a hatchet job on Michael; and how that same witch showed up on as many talk shows as possible telling misleading lies about Michael---even after he had died. I can't stomach that woman.

Media still can't resist going to 'the dark side'. It's like it's not right unless there's a put down of Michael as a person or even his work.

I think I bought that magazine. If I can find it, I will scan the pictures for you and send them to you. When I read it I realized it was a trash article. A waste of money, time, effort, and space in my head.
 
I was going to buy this book (out in October) but now that Vanity Fair shows some excerpts I will not. I thought it would be different-where the authors would speak how the video was made and not their ideas about Michael's being.
 
Director John Landis on filming Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” video
By: HollywoodNews.com


HollywoodNews.com: Vanity Fair writer Nancy Griffin, who was on set during the 1983 filming of “Thriller,” talks with director John Landis about Michael Jackson, and with Jackson’s co-star, Ola Ray, who reveals for the first time in depth the relationship the two shared offscreen.

Ray tells Griffin that she “had some intimate moments with [Jackson] in his trailer,” and takes pains not to reveal too much, according to Griffin, saying: “I won’t say that I have seen him in his birthday suit but close enough.” She describes their involvement as “a little kindergarten thing,” saying that she thought it “important for him to be around someone who would make him feel comfortable.” She describes their intimate moments as “kissing and puppy-love make-out sessions – and a little more than that,” but refuses to say more. “I’ve already told you more than I’ve ever told anyone!”

Griffin reports that Ray got romantic advice from Jane Fonda, who was shooting a workout video in the same studio where Ray got her make up done each day. Ray tells Griffin that “Miss Fonda said, ‘Be yourself-just be sweet and talk to him about things he might be interested in or like to do. He’s a Jehovah’s Witness, so you should talk to him about religion. Maybe he will want you to go to church with him one day.’?”

Ray, who has never spoken at length about Jackson before, tells Griffin that “every day, Michael came and sat and watched me. He was in awe of me. He was always in my face trying to learn to do things with makeup like I did.” Jackson asked Ray to give pointers to his own makeup person-”I have a shine on my nose that I can’t get off” Jackson told her. According to Ray, as she was advising Jackson’s make up artist on what to do, she said to Ray, “‘Girl, don’t you know that no matter how much powder I put on his nose it’s going to shine? Do you know how many nose jobs he’s had?’ Then Michael started laughing, because I didn’t know he had had nose jobs!”

After Jennifer Beals turned down an offer to co-star, Landis cast the unknown 23-year-old former Playboy Playmate. “I auditioned a lot of girls and this girl Ola Ray-first of all, she was crazy for Michael,” Landis tells Griffin. “She had such a great smile. I didn’t know she was a Playmate.” Jackson signed off on Ray, then reconsidered the seemliness of cavorting with an ex-Playmate and came close to derailing the casting. According to Landis, “I said, ‘Michael, she’s a Playmate, but so what? She’s not a Playmate in this.’ He went, ‘O.K., whatever you want.’ I have to tell you, I got along great with Michael.”

Ray says she watched Jackson switch from silly to businesslike with ease, and Landis tells Griffin that when he barged unknowingly into Jackson’s trailer while Jackson was meeting with Jacqueline Onassis (then an editor at Doubleday, and there to discuss Jackson’s memoir) the star coolly said, “John, have you met Mrs. Onassis?”

An assortment of luminaries dropped by the set to see Jackson, from Fred Astaire to Rock Hudson. Quincy Jones, watching the filming of the zombie dance, mused about Jackson’s ability to maintain his child-like quality, saying, “It takes a lot of maturity to control all that innocence.” Perhaps the most unlikely visitor to appear was Marlon Brando, who, Landis learned, was slipping acting advice to Jackson. One day when Landis admonished him for not knowing his lines, Jackson said, “Marlon told me to always go for the truth, not the words.”

Landis tells Griffin he dealt with Jackson as he would “a really gifted child, because that’s what he was at that moment. He was emotionally damaged, but so sweet and so talented.” Landis also describes the awkward situations as he found himself caught up in Jackson-family dynamics. One night when Joseph and Katherine Jackson visited the set, the director recalls, “Michael asked me to have Joe removed. He said, ‘Would you please ask my father to leave?’ So I go over to Mr. Jackson. ‘Mr. Jackson, I’m sorry, but can you please leave?’ ‘Who are you?’ ‘I’m John Landis. I’m directing this.’ ‘Well, I’m Joe Jackson. I do what I please.’ I said, ‘I’ll have to ask security to remove you if you don’t leave now.’?” Landis says he had a policeman escort Joe Jackson off the set, which Jackson, through his lawyer, denies.

Ray tells Griffin that she thinks about Jackson every day, with considerable regret. “I just wish I would have had the opportunity to be a little bit more in his life. I bet he would have been happy with me. It would have taken someone like me who would not put pressure on him or play him for his money or anything other than that I wanted to be with him for who he was,” Ray says. “I had no other agenda than that.”

Ray has since abandoned Hollywood-”There were so many big-name directors who told me that if I wanted to do films I had to sleep with them,” Ray says-but recalls the shoot, and especially her co-star, with great fondness. “That walk with Michael, when he was dancing around me and singing, I felt like I was the most, I don’t know, blessed girl in the world. Being able to do that and being able to play with Michael, and having him play around me. I felt so in love that night. You can see it in my eyes. You can see it for sure.”

The July issue of Vanity Fair is available on national newsstands today. It is also available for download on the iPad.

http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/0...s-on-filming-michael-jacksons-thriller-video/

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(Pictures) Vanity Fair Magazine his MJ Thriller

today i saw at my book store i saw this magazine & it was great pices :yes: $5.99 ;) :yes:

here are the pictures:

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Re: (Pictures) Vanity Fair Magazine his MJ Thriller

that is great images and the thriller is a thrill to see
 
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