Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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Today we are going to hear about sanctions :sarmoti:
10/24/2012 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Sanctions (MOTION TO SEAL PORTIONS OF THERECORD)

Funnily enough, 2 years ago my sympathies were on Jackson family side, but a lot has happened since then, I have learned a lot, I have no sympathy or respect left to any of Jackson's except PPB.
 
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we all know michael had his own problems, as many adults too. Its understandable i feel that michael was really nervous and scared, with so much scrutiny , the last 10 years were not kind to him.... he wanted to be the best he could be. I believe a lot of people for This Is It were there for him .... but as always the men in the grey suits get what they want and that cant be changed. resulting in the loss of Michael, AEG should not even be in business anymore.... careless neglectful money making nazis in my opinion
 
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Those men in the gray suits were not in Michael's room June 25 2009
 
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Interesting how Mann/Katherine/Sullivan are all connected. Now we know where Sullivan got his dirt for his book? Mann introduced the lawyer to Katherine, so how good is Sanders supposed to be if Mann is a friend?

I think he is no good and proof is in the pudding = Mann as a friend.
Makes me wonder what else Sanders has given to Mann, all the legal info he has regarding K vs AEG case, and probably other information about Katherine financial situation? After Sanders joined 06/26/2012 as counsel K vs AEG case, funny things started to happen, like this email leak.

Why do you think that Perry Sanders was included in that letter against the executors in July? The siblings cc'd everyone they think are bad guys (Trent, Lowell Henry, Tom Barrack, Randy Phillips, Philip Anschutz etc) including Sanders. I mean take a look at what they wrote in the letter:

"However, for some strange reason her advisors Lowell Henry, Perry Sanders and Trent, although in agreement with her regarding the validity of the will, are telling her to disregard what she knows as facts. Instead, her so called advisors are convincing her to let them "negotiate" deals with Branca and McClain on her behalf, or is it on the behalf of all of you".

Before I were aware of his connections to Mann/Sullivan I honestly thought the siblings didnt liked him and therefore he also recieved the letter, now I dont know.


Totally agree! I remember seeing Katherine on Piers Morgan the earlier part of this year promoting the art work with Brett Livingstone. She said that AEG only cared about money but that was all she could say because of the pending litigation. I thought to myself isn't that what you were concerned about to? She saw Michael didn't she? she should have known how he was doing by looking at him. Joe claimed he told her to check on Mike because he looks frail and weak to him. Did she check on him? How can she blame AEG for not watching out for MJ, when she, his mother, didn't do it either?

In 20009 when Katherine started to do interviews she always said Michael looked fine and she spoke to him on the phone and he soundes like himself. I dont know if she was in denial back then or that someone else have been brainwashing her now to believe these things.
 
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Why do you think that Perry Sanders was included in that letter against the executors in July? The siblings cc'd everyone they think are bad guys (Trent, Lowell Henry, Tom Barrack, Randy Phillips, Philip Anschutz etc) including Sanders. I mean take a look at what they wrote in the letter:

"However, for some strange reason her advisors Lowell Henry, Perry Sanders and Trent, although in agreement with her regarding the validity of the will, are telling her to disregard what she knows as facts. Instead, her so called advisors are convincing her to let them "negotiate" deals with Branca and McClain on her behalf, or is it on the behalf of all of you".

Before I were aware of his connections to Mann/Sullivan I honestly thought the siblings didnt liked him and therefore he also recieved the letter, now I dont know.




In 20009 when Katherine started to do interviews she always said Michael looked fine and she spoke to him on the phone and he soundes like himself. I dont know if she was in denial back then or that someone else have been brainwashing her now to believe these things.

yeah she said that then, but now she's changing her story. The point is there is no way she can blame AEG unless she blames herself to. AEG is a business and they were definitely in it for the money, but Katherine was his mother and she knew MJ was a single father with 3 minor children, no wife and a mountain of pressure. She knew about his alleged money troubles because the house she lived in had received foreclosure papers. Wasn't she aware of that? she talked to him on the phone? why didn't she go over there and cook him some meals and check to see if he and kids were doing alright? Like I said there is no way she can blame AEG without blaming herself.
 
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Randy's tweets from 2010 in case you all need reminding:

Randy tweeted about it:



  1. This could not have been done without the support of the fans. Were all together in this.Thank you for your continued support and patience. less than a minute ago via web
  2. Please understand its not over, we have a long way to go. There is more to come. We are just getting started. 4 minutes ago via web
  3. What happened to my loving brother should NOT have happened. I really miss him. 8 minutes ago via web
  4. I am doing my best to keep that promise. On this day my family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against AEG. I am proud of my family. 15 minutes ago via web
  5. Last year I promised that I would not rest until the truth is exposed about what happened to my brothers passing. May he rest in peace. 18 minutes ago via web
  6. I know im quiet, I dont tweet much. 23 minutes ago via web
  7. Today was a good day. 24 minutes ago via web

In my opinion it proves he was the mastermind behind all of this.
 
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Ivyyyyyyyyyy any news from court room, did judge slapped Randy back of hi head for being stupid?
 
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Ivyyyyyyyyyy any news from court room, did judge slapped Randy back of hi head for being stupid?

you are too early to ask. 8:45 AM LA time which means the hearing just started 30 min ago. Media - if they report it- won't have anything until late afternoon. Court documents will not be available until earliest tomorrow or a few days later.
 
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you are too early to ask. 8:45 AM LA time which means the hearing just started 30 min ago. Media - if they report it- won't have anything until late afternoon. Court documents will not be available until earliest tomorrow or a few days later.


thanks ivy! any word on depositions for Randy, Jermaine and Janet yet?
 
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Thanks for reply Ivy, I guess I'm bit impatient.
Alan Duke might have something later on as he was talking to HNL.

Will evidence be sealed in Jackson family lawsuit?
By Graham Winch
updated 11:37 AM EDT, Wed October 24, 2012
NEED TO KNOW
Michael Jackson's family is suing the company that promoted his last tour for negligence
The parties will be in court to argue over whether the evidence in the case should be sealed

Watch the video to see In Session's Christi Paul talk with CNN's Alan Duke about Wednesday's hearing in the Michael Jackson family wrongful death lawsuit.

Jackson's family is suing the company that promoted his last tour for negligence for hiring Conrad Murray to take care of the pop star during his last tour.

Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in November 2011 in the death of Jackson.


The parties will be in court Wednesday to argue over whether the evidence in the case should be sealed.


Interview with Alan Duke, watch it here:
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/10/24/will-evidence-be-sealed-jackson-family-lawsuit
 
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thanks ivy! any word on depositions for Randy, Jermaine and Janet yet?

as I answered before we won't get any word on the depositions. They don't update the court or the public.

The only time we would hear about depositions is either

a) if they don't sit down for depositions by Oct 26 and AEG again goes to court for sanctions
b) if AEG uses depositions in the future motions or trial

otherwise don't expect to hear anything about them.
 
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ok thanks!
 
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The parties will be in court Wednesday to argue over whether the evidence in the case should be sealed.

That media article is clueless, the evidence was sealed, as far as i understood they're having a hearing to see if there are to be sanctions over the leaking.

Well, i'm really confused now with all the tangled relationships with the jacksons, their lawyers and their super shady hangers on. Mann is meant to be a pal of randy (but i think we only have radaronline for that info) who brought in sanders to represent mrs j and who now seems to be randy's bete noire. Sullivan is a pal of mann and sanders but writes an article anti randy and janet. The only thing that unites them seems to be a mutual distrust and loathing.

The one person who gets off scot free in all these shennenigans is mrs j - no one seems to call her out, nothing sticks to her. For a naive, clueless little old lady she doesn't do badly in all this scheming.
 
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yep.. I noticed how she remains clean in all of these shananigans.. The family makes out like 'Mother' is being taken advantage of and used and abused yet she's raking in the dough from her dead son's estate and leaves his kids who she has guardianship of in the hands of TJ while she continues her shady dealings.:mat:
 
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That media article is clueless, the evidence was sealed, as far as i understood they're having a hearing to see if there are to be sanctions over the leaking.

actually AEG filed the 150 pages of documents given to LA Times under seal. I think - but not sure - Katherine's lawyers is against the seal. That's a part of the issue as well.
 
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AEG wants e-mails banned from Michael Jackson trial
By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 3:57 PM EDT, Wed October 24, 2012
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
AEG accuses the Jacksons of leaking e-mails in violation of the judge's order
"It is clear that only one entity could have done it," AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam says
The e-mails reveal AEG had doubts about Jackson's health months before his death
"He has accused 10-year-old Blanket Jackson," Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle says
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother sat quietly in court on Wednesday watching as her lawyers fought loudly with attorneys for AEG, the concert promoter she accuses of contributing to the pop star's death.
They argued over who leaked e-mails to a reporter that revealed the promoter had doubts about Jackson's health and his ability to be ready for his "This Is It" concerts several months before his death.
"MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent," AEG executive Randy Phillips wrote in a March 5, 2009, e-mail, the day Jackson announced the tour plans. "I (am) trying to sober him up."
The judge must decide if she will exclude those e-mails from the wrongful-death suit filed by Katherine Jackson and her son's three children against AEG.
Jackson died of an overdose of a surgical anesthesia in combination with sedatives on June 25, 2009, according the the Los Angeles County coroner. Dr. Conrad Murray, who was hired to be Jackson's personal physician as he prepared for the shows, was found guilty last year of involuntary manslaughter in his death.
The Jackson suit contends that AEG contributed to the pop star's death by pressuring him to prepare even though the promoters knew he was in a weak condition and by its hiring and supervision of Dr. Murray.
The judge overseeing the case sealed those documents. AEG filed a motion accusing the Jacksons and their lawyers of leaking them to Los Angeles Times reporter Harriett Ryan, who used them for a story she published in September.
"It is clear that only one entity could have done it," AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam said. The cache of e-mails, which the reporter shared with AEG, have "certain unique characteristics" that prove they were given to the Jackson lawyers by AEG as part of discovery in the wrongful-death lawsuit, Putnam said.
AEG asked Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos to punish the Jacksons by not allowing them to use those e-mails in next year's trial when they try to prove the promoter is liable for Michael Jackson's death.
"He has accused 10-year-old Blanket Jackson," Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle said, pointing to Putnam. "What's the idea, that Blanket Jackson got some documents and copied them and somehow walked them from Calabasas to Harriet Ryan?"
Jackson lawyers denied anyone associated with their legal team or their clients leaked the e-mails, even suggesting AEG lawyers may have done it themselves as a set up.
"They could have easily disclosed all of these documents with zero punishment from the court," Boyle said.
Ryan has refused to disclose her sources, although Howard Mann -- who was once Katherine Jackson's former partner in a book venture -- has acknowledged that he gave the reporter a box of documents for her story.
Days after the e-mails were published, AEG dropped its claim against a Lloyds of London underwriter for a $17.5 million insurance policy for Michael Jackson.
The insurer contended AEG hid Jackson's health problems and failed to respond to repeated requests for his medical history when applying for insurance for the 50 shows scheduled for London's O2 Arena.
The Michael Jackson estate, which controls Michael Jackson Company LLC, is still pursuing the insurance payout.
Perry Sanders, who is Katherine Jackson's personal attorney, told the judge that the Jacksons had no motive to leak the e-mails.
"Like we would go and blow up our own case against Lloyds of London?" Sanders said. "Our client and all the plaintiffs in this case are actually the ones who would receive the money."
Sanders also noted that AEG had failed to disclose the e-mails to the Lloyds of London lawyers despite a legal requirement to do so.
While publication of the e-mails might have made AEG look bad, they were "extremely negative against Michael Jackson," painting him "as a basket case," Jackson lawyer Deborah Chang said.
"It's much more negative about Michael Jackson than it is about AEG, by far," Chang said.
The Jackson lawyers accused AEG of using the e-mail issue as a way to delay the wrongful-death trial.
"They've been very successful in tying us up completely and I am sure they are giggling about it back in the office," Boyle said.
AEG previously convinced the judge to delay the trial, which was set for last month, until next April.
"This case is so strong that we very stringently argued this case should have gone to trial in September," Sanders said. "The only people that seem to be trying to keep this case from going forward are the defendants."
The anger and passion between the six Jackson lawyers and AEG's Putnam was evident with personal charges of bad ethics flying from both sides in court Wednesday.
"I've never seen anything like it in my career," Jackson lawyer Brian Panish said. "They think they can just smirk around and make these defamatory statements without evidence."
The documents made public in the Times story are not the most damaging to AEG that were uncovered, Boyle told CNN.
"We can assure you that we are in possession of documents that make for an extremely compelling story in the wrongful-death case, and that completely support the plaintiffs' claims," he said.
It was unusual for the 82-year-old Katherine Jackson to attend such a hearing, suggesting the case is also very personal for her.
The revelations from the leaked e-mails including one written by Randy Phillips weeks after Jackson's death in which the president of AEG Live -- the concert-promotion branch of AEG -- called it "a terrible tragedy," but adding "but life must go on."
"AEG will make a fortune from merch sales, ticket retention, the touring exhibition and the film/dvd," Phillips wrote. In fact, AEG Live was allowed to sell Jackson tour merchandise and share in the profits from the documentary "This Is It," produced from rehearsal video.
The e-mails suggest AEG Live's president saw Jackson's problems first-hand the day the pop star was to appear at the O2 Arena to publicly announce the shows.
"MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent," Phillips wrote in the March 5, 2009, e-mail to AEG Live's parent company, the paper reported. "I (am) trying to sober him up."
"I screamed at him so loud the walls are shaking," Phillips wrote. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it is show time."
The promoter blamed London traffic when Jackson was 90 minutes late for the announcement that day.
"He's as healthy as he can be -- no health problems whatsoever," Phillips told CNN two months later to refute reports Jackson's health was threatening the concerts.
The Los Angeles Times story, however, said the e-mails indicated major doubts about Jackson's ability to perform.
"We cannot be forced into stopping this, which MJ will try to do because he is lazy and constantly changes his mind to fit his immediate wants," AEG Live executive Paul Gongaware e-mailed to Phillips.
Jackson's missed rehearsals in June triggered concerns in e-mails that he was slow in learning his dance routines and would have to lip-sync on stage, the newspaper reported.
"MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time," one e-mail from the show's music director read, the paper reported.
A production manager wrote: "He was a basket case. Doubt is pervasive."
A loud warning from show director Kenny Ortega, who worked closely with Jackson on previous tours, came in mid-June, just over a week before his death. Ortega wrote to Phillips that Jackson had "strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior" and suggesting they bring a "top psychiatrist in to evaluate him ASAP."
"It is like there are two people there. One (deep inside) trying to hold on to what he was and still can be and not wanting us to quit him, the other in this weakened and troubled state," Ortega wrote. "I believe we need professional guidance in this matter."
Ortega testified at Murray's trial about his concerns about Jackson's frail condition and missed rehearsals. It resulted in a meeting six days before Jackson's death in which Murray assured the promoters he would have Jackson ready for rehearsals that next week.
An e-mail from Phillips after that meeting said he had confidence in Murray "who I am gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more."
"This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig, so he (is) totally unbiased and ethical," Phillips' e-mail said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/showbiz/jackson-aeg-hearing/index.html
 
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lol at that. What about Randy and Jermaine delay for their testimony?
 
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This is so ugly.
 
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I think Michael had every reason to be anxious. He knew some of the British tabloids were just drooling in hopeful anticipation that he would trip and fall. Not to mention his own family pushing for their reunion tour and Leonard Rowe and Joe Jackson trying to get a slice of the TII pie. Shoot I would have gotten drunk too...many times!!

There is plenty of blame and guilt to go around. First stop is the Jackson's greedy a$$"s
 
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Popcorn please! :lol:
 
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This is so ugly.

So true! And it appears the Jackson's don't care if they drag Michael's personal and professional reputation through the mud. Just let the poor man have some peace for once!! Michael has certainly earned it...
 
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I have to say though that the emails make me really sad when I read them.
 
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AEG asked Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos to punish the Jacksons by not allowing them to use those e-mails in next year's trial when they try to prove the promoter is liable for Michael Jackson's death.
"He has accused 10-year-old Blanket Jackson," Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle said, pointing to Putnam. "What's the idea, that Blanket Jackson got some documents and copied them and somehow walked them from Calabasas to Harriet Ryan?"
Jackson lawyers denied anyone associated with their legal team or their clients leaked the e-mails, even suggesting AEG lawyers may have done it themselves as a set up.

That Boyle is shameless for dragging lil Blanket into this. No one has blamed Blanket leaking emails, it is very clear that the leak came from Jackson's side, but I doubt anyone in their right mind even thought Blanket being the source of the leak. I hope judge sees through this bull crap, and slap huge sanctions to them, and shame on Katherine for allowing them to use Blanket in their sick twisted games.

By quick reading through Alan's post, made me think if he indeed is impartial? He seems to side his writing style with pro-Jackson.

"While publication of the e-mails might have made AEG look bad, they were "extremely negative against Michael Jackson," painting him "as a basket case," Jackson lawyer Deborah Chang said.
"It's much more negative about Michael Jackson than it is about AEG, by far," Chang said.
The Jackson lawyers accused AEG of using the e-mail issue as a way to delay the wrongful-death trial."

Sick of the thought that Michael didn't receive enough of shite while he was here, he is still in the receiving end, and his mommy dearest is the one that is leading lady.

Ridiculous they claim AEG trying to delay the trial, when Randy and Jermaine have been dodging giving their deposition nearly a year!
 
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There's an awful many lawyers mentioned in this article that works for Katherine with her case (Kevin Boyle, Deborah Chang, Brian Panish, Perry Sanders)

Jackson lawyers denied anyone associated with their legal team or their clients leaked the e-mails, even suggesting AEG lawyers may have done it themselves as a set up.
"They could have easily disclosed all of these documents with zero punishment from the court," Boyle said.

Ok because that makes sense, especially when Howard Mann said he leaked it.

The documents made public in the Times story are not the most damaging to AEG that were uncovered, Boyle told CNN.
"We can assure you that we are in possession of documents that make for an extremely compelling story in the wrongful-death case, and that completely support the plaintiffs' claims," he said.

This will get ugly
 
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Buckle up MJFamily
 
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This is just so disgusting. Drag Michael's name in the mud and then use his 10 year old son's name to gain sympathy. What a bunch of shameless ****** any idiot can see the Jacksons leaked those email to the public to make AEG look bad on michael's expense.
 
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So Mrs. J showed up for this hearing in person. Maybe she is begining to doubt her lawyers.
 
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Mention of Blanket is nothing more than an emotional play for the fans and the judge (and jury). Katherine's lawyers often refer to her as "the grieving 82 year old mother and the minor children". The reality is that no one has blamed Blanket. AEG just said that the leak is from Katherine's side and they filed for motions against all of the plaintiffs as well as all of the lawyers. The only reason Blanket is included is because Katherine choose to include him as a plaintiff. It's that simple.

There's nothing that says anybody would fight less based on the profile of who sues them. I haven't seen anyone say "oh I'm gonna go full force on this person because he's in his 40s but I will use half of my power because this other plaintiff is in his 80s". the reality is that Katherine willingly sued AEG, she willingly included minor kids in this mess in the hopes of millions of dollars. AEG is fighting this case like they would in any other case. They won't use kid gloves just because Katherine is old or the kids are young.
 
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