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Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

How does BLS have the nerve to still show Michael's Art when the ownership is still doubtfull? Maybe I'm wrong, but at this point without proving that Michael himself approved the changed of ownership, the art is considered stolen and he goes on tv & show them. Doesn't he have any common sense?
 
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Aquarius said:
How does BLS have the nerve to still show Michael's Art when the ownership is still doubtfull? Maybe I'm wrong, but at this point without proving that Michael himself approved the changed of ownership, the art is considered stolen and he goes on tv & show them. Doesn't he have any common sense?
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No they don't. I think they think if they have Katherine's blessing or any other jackson that it is okay. They have no say. The family don't seem to get it either.
 
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Well to be fair Estate did not sue BLS. To challenge his ownership of the paintings they need to challenge and nullify Tohme's POA first. So it will take time.
 
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ivy said:
Well to be fair Estate did not sue BLS. To challenge his ownership of the paintings they need to challenge and nullify Tohme's POA first. So it will take time.
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I hope the paintings are catalogued so they won't find they way to auctions (open or behind the doors auctions) while waiting for the outcome.
 
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This is a typical grandma move--she wants something in relation to the estate, so she goes on tv to show herself grieving, and then she asks for something. Most times she is accompanied by people like Hunt, Mann, etc. The public will see this grieving mom and she how she suffers. In that context, it is easy for those like Strong to hang around her and claim that Michael's dear mom wants them to have the paintings. The bottom line is that they have some deal going in which money will change hands. Another thing grandma does is whenever there is some legal proceedings, she appears on some show.
 
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^ Yes she does seem to be used as 'a human shield' in the media for all these suspect dealings, these businessmen counting on the estate being reluctant to go after mj's elderly mother. We saw the artwork already been used in a pr event with the hospital last summer which mrs j and the children attended. It's like they are trying to put the estate in a corner and make them the bad guys. It's a shame mrs j has to be the front woman for the media and has to continually display her grief at mj's loss as frankly that is the only reason the media would book her, it runs the risk of cheapening that grief.
 
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Victory22 said:
And this is exactly the reason why I don't trust KJ. She always makes me wonder if her tears are real and that makes me sad.
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You can doubt or don't trust anything or anyone and I also don't know what to think about a lot of things, but I know one thing: If she cries for Michael it's real. Please don't doubt Katherine's tears for Michael. I appreciate your honesty, but you are going too far.
 
Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

May 14 Update

Katherine's lawyers has just filed objection to AEG's ex-parte request to delay the trial dates.

From the objection document we learn that:

- AEG is asking for a 6 month delay - to continue the trial date to March 10, 2013.
-One of AEG's reasons to ask for delay is as they only got substantial information to their requests on April 23 and therefore will not be ready to review them by the summary judgement date.
- AEG states only two depositions of Michael's siblings have been completed. One of them is Tito.
- Katherine also has been deposed for 3 days and her deposition is mentioned as "not finished".
- Katherine's lawyers argue that AEG has until August 13 discovery cut off date to depose anyone and ongoing depositions do not warrant a delay in trial dates.
- Opposition document includes mention of several depositions: Gongaware will be deposed by Katherine's lawyers next week (between May 21 -25). Katherine's lawyers also want to depose Dan Beckerman and Michael Roth from AEG. Deposition dates for Beckerman and Roth is still being discussed among the parties.
- AEG has 4 depositions set up for this week (between may 14- 18) as well. Those are Jermaine Jackson, Dr. Arnold Klein, Debbie Rowe and Trent Jackson.
- AEG lists Michael's medical records as a reason for delay as well. After the Murray case was over and the court allowed Michael's medical records, the documents show that Michael's medical records is mainly limited to last 3 years (starting from June 25, 2006) and Estate lawyers (Weitzman's office) is reviewing and redacting (irrelevant private information) medical documents before they send it out to the parties.
- AEG also states that the motion for protective order (ability to mark documents as confidential) has caused delays. AEG also states that expert discovery has not started.

- Katherine's lawyers asks the court to deny AEG's request to delay the trial dates. They also states that even if court agrees to delay the trial dates, court should keep the date to file summary judgement the same.
- Katherine's lawyers cite California Code of Civil Procedure 36 (b), 36 (f) which states a party to a civil case who is under the age of 14 must be granted a trial date within 120 days unless the court finds the party does not have a substantial interest in the case as a whole. Katherine's lawyers state that as Blanket is 10 years old, he fits to this requirement.

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Thanks ivy. intresting the list of ppl AEG will depose.
 
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Does anyone think it will be delayed?
 
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Blanket doesn't need AEG money. His father left him plenty...so I don't see why they are using poor Blanket to try and square off with AEG.
 
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Questioning Katherine's grief for Michael is really low. Whatever one may think of the reasoning behind the AEG suit, it is highly inappropriate to question a mother's grief for her child.
 
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Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
Where did Katherine get the idea that AEG hired Murray anyway? I have never understood that.
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AEG did hire Murray, after Michael insisted. They didn't want to because it was such a high fee for one doctor but Michael made it clear that that is who he wanted.
 
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StellaJackson said:
Questioning Katherine's grief for Michael is really low. Whatever one may think of the reasoning behind the AEG suit, it is highly inappropriate to question a mother's grief for her child.
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I don't think you have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

KJ is being used as a prawn by opportunists around her to either extort money from AEG or steal MJ properties from his Estate. So she's trying to gain public sympathy as a way of achieving both ends. Hence people are wondering, understandably, whether the grieving are real since they are being played for other motives.
 
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ivy said:
May 14 Update

Katherine's lawyers has just filed objection to AEG's ex-parte request to delay the trial dates.

From the objection document we learn that:

- AEG is asking for a 6 month delay - to continue the trial date to March 10, 2013.
-One of AEG's reasons to ask for delay is as they only got substantial information to their requests on April 23 and therefore will not be ready to review them by the summary judgement date.
- AEG states only two depositions of Michael's siblings have been completed. One of them is Tito.
- Katherine also has been deposed for 3 days and her deposition is mentioned as "not finished".
- Katherine's lawyers argue that AEG has until August 13 discovery cut off date to depose anyone and ongoing depositions do not warrant a delay in trial dates.
- Opposition document includes mention of several depositions: Gongaware will be deposed by Katherine's lawyers next week (between May 21 -25). Katherine's lawyers also want to depose Dan Beckerman and Michael Roth from AEG. Deposition dates for Beckerman and Roth is still being discussed among the parties.
- AEG has 4 depositions set up for this week (between may 14- 18) as well. Those are Jermaine Jackson, Dr. Arnold Klein, Debbie Rowe and Trent Jackson.
- AEG lists Michael's medical records as a reason for delay as well. After the Murray case was over and the court allowed Michael's medical records, the documents show that Michael's medical records is mainly limited to last 3 years (starting from June 25, 2006) and Estate lawyers (Weitzman's office) is reviewing and redacting (irrelevant private information) medical documents before they send it out to the parties.
- AEG also states that the motion for protective order (ability to mark documents as confidential) has caused delays. AEG also states that expert discovery has not started.

- Katherine's lawyers asks the court to deny AEG's request to delay the trial dates. They also states that even if court agrees to delay the trial dates, court should keep the date to file summary judgement the same.
- Katherine's lawyers cite California Code of Civil Procedure 36 (b), 36 (f) which states a party to a civil case who is under the age of 14 must be granted a trial date within 120 days unless the court finds the party does not have a substantial interest in the case as a whole. Katherine's lawyers state that as Blanket is 10 years old, he fits to this requirement.

Disclaimer: This summary is the copyrighted property of MJJC / Ivy. Copying / translating this material is ONLY permitted by REQUEST. Contact Ivy for permission.
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KJ lawyers have been stalling this process for months so AEG would not be ready in time for either summary judgement or even the trial.
They knew what they were doing all along. I hope the judge sees that and denies their opposition to delay trial.
 
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ivy said:
May 14 Update
- Katherine's lawyers asks the court to deny AEG's request to delay the trial dates. They also states that even if court agrees to delay the trial dates, court should keep the date to file summary judgement the same.
- Katherine's lawyers cite California Code of Civil Procedure 36 (b), 36 (f) which states a party to a civil case who is under the age of 14 must be granted a trial date within 120 days unless the court finds the party does not have a substantial interest in the case as a whole. Katherine's lawyers state that as Blanket is 10 years old, he fits to this requirement.
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I guess its typical from both parties to try all sort of tricks, but I do find it funny that KJ lawyers wants judge to deny AEG request to delay the trial, after they themselves were holding back depositions from family members so AEG couldn't prepare for the trial.

Ivy, I don't understand the bolded part? Why are they asking to keep the date for summary judgement the same?
They are not the ones who is looking for summary judgement, AEG is, this very confusing:scratch:
 
Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Probably not give them time to get ready.

Currently the due date for summary judgement is end of May. AEG is asking 6 month delay in all dates. If granted it would move the summary judgement date to November. Katherine's lawyers are saying to the judge even if you delay the trial date, keep the end of may date for the summary judgement.
 
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passy001 said:
I don't think you have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

KJ is being used as a prawn by opportunists around her to either extort money from AEG or steal MJ properties from his Estate. So she's trying to gain public sympathy as a way of achieving both ends. Hence people are wondering, understandably, whether the grieving are real since they are being played for other motives.
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I'd thank you not to question whether I know what I'm talking about. That's just rude. The internal politics of the Jackson family and others are nothing to do with the point I was making, which was that I don"t think it is right to question a mother's grief for her son, regardless of what else going on. Keep the attitude to yourself. It's not doing this site any favours.
 
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ivy said:
Probably not give them time to get ready.

Currently the due date for summary judgement is end of May. AEG is asking 6 month delay in all dates. If granted it would move the summary judgement date to November. Katherine's lawyers are saying to the judge even if you delay the trial date, keep the end of may date for the summary judgement.
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Thanks Ivy
So basically they want to know sooner rather than later whether their case is dismissed or not :D
 
Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I'll do another update tonight. Got new documents.

And I think AEG's defense is becoming quite obvious, if it hasn't been already.
 
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ivy said:
I'll do another update tonight. Got new documents.

And I think AEG's defense is becoming quite obvious, if it hasn't been already.
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Trying to chose words carefully, if I took a guess at AEG's defence it is that the family have publicly stated that Michael was a drug addict, hence KJ now stating otherwise on Piers Morgan. This isn't going to be pretty, poor Michael. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Sorry to MJ Fam and Fam fans, but this time my support lies with AEG. Only because his family managed to screw him over one more time in death, by letting Murray off the hook.
 
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In someway I hope that the judge doesn't allow the delay as (selfish as I'm) I want to finish this AEG case and move on the next one (as Petrarose said earlier;-)), but all the fairness, AEG deserves to have the trial delayed so they get their chance to defend themselves like any other who is in that position.
 
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You can't blame AEG for defending themselves. No matter what it will always be the Jacksons fault for one calling Michael and addict and two for trying to shame AEG into a settlement. And if you think the Jacksons care about AEG calling Michael an addict you are very wrong. I actually think their defense has more to do with the Jacksons themselves then whatever issues Michael had
 
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LastTear said:
Trying to chose words carefully, if I took a guess at AEG's defence it is that the family have publicly stated that Michael was a drug addict, hence KJ now stating otherwise on Piers Morgan. This isn't going to be pretty, poor Michael. I hope I'm wrong.
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Care to explain what do you mean?
I know family has been vocal about their interventions attempts, but last night Katherine kind of said that Michael wasn't addict?
This is what she said last night:
"I think a lot of that was exaggerated, about the different things that he was taking, because I've been to my son's house unannounced and I've been there announced," explains the 82-year-old matriarch. "I have never seen him in that way. I know he was taking painkillers, because he got burnt on the top of his head. Very painful. But all this other stuff they added to it, I don't know if that was the truth or not. But I don't think that have anything to do with the way he died."

She mentioned Michael's drug use is exaggerated at least twice.
Is their tactic going to be that Michael was ok before AEG got into picture, they made Michael to take those meds that Murray gave him?
Hmm,makes me wonder?
 
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Justthefacts said:
You can't blame AEG for defending themselves. No matter what it will always be the Jacksons fault for one calling Michael and addict and two for trying to shame AEG into a settlement. And if you think the Jacksons care about AEG calling Michael an addict you are very wrong. I actually think their defense has more to do with the Jacksons themselves then whatever issues Michael had
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I agree... they are defending themselves.. If MJ's family thought he was addict and needed help why didn't they help him?
 
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Bubs said:
Care to explain what do you mean?
I know family has been vocal about their interventions attempts, but last night Katherine kind of said that Michael wasn't addict?
Makes me wonder?
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She wasn't saying that in 2009-2010 because she knows now it will make her look bad..
 
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