Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

[Ashtanga]

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Alan Duke ?@AlanDukeCNN
AEG subpoenaed Howard Mann today to ask him under oath where he got those e-mails. Stayed tuned.

:bugeyed



Now I want to see..... :devil: :fear:

 

[passy001]

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Mann is an idiot. he can claim that he got the document from Murray team all he wants. What he forgets is that Murray team never had those documents, especially not in the format they were given to KJ and her lawyers. I'm sure AEG will prove this.

And he getting involved in the case where he has no interest is rather suspicious and awkward. no one will buy his excuses.

 

[jaydom7]

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I am glad AEG is taking Mann to court and put his butt under oath

 

[soulmum]

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If those documents had been kept under seal none of this unpleasantness would have seen the light of day. All boils down to the mighty dollar. Is money so important that you would throw someone under a bus, blight their legacy, demean them, embarrass them etc? As a long time fan I have seen so many try to bring Michael down but I never dreamed that members of his own family would be the ones to stick the knife in. I despair.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Mann is an idiot. he can claim that he got the document from Murray team all he wants. What he forgets is that Murray team never had those documents, especially not in the format they were given to KJ and her lawyers. I'm sure AEG will prove this.

And he getting involved in the case where he has no interest is rather suspicious and awkward. no one will buy his excuses.

exactly. the documents came from the court they had the private/sealed stamp blackened out.and why would murray have them in the first place. he wouldnt. all the rats are blaming each other.

so AEG are subbing mann lol. what did i say. but frankly im sure he will have no problem lieing under oath. whens the hearing on this? oct something?

 

[Mneme]

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There are more updates
The existence of the e-mails, which were not turned over to the insurance company during the discovery phase of the case, have complicated AEG's effort to prevent a court from voiding the $17.5 million policy that AEG purchased through Lloyds of London, he said.
"We are looking for information about Michael Jackson's prior drug use and the failure of AEG to disclose the facts and what the truth was prior to our client's issuance of the policy," Schrieffer said.

Guys I need help in remembering something from 09. After the memorial, didn't AEG give the estate the policy so they could file the claim, and then the estate paid AEG for the debts that arose while Michael was doing the production of TII? Now if the estate has the policy and Mann/Katherine try to help the insurance co win the case, aren't they essentially preventing the estate from recouping the insurance funds? We need to check this, because I have a vague idea that I read that information about the policy.
If the policy is with the estate, then the actions by Mann/Katherine and co show that they really do not care about the estate/Michael at all.

I remember the Estate (Mr Branca) has paid this 17.5 million to AEG with the agreement that AEG will this money give back to the Estate when Lloyd has paid zu them.

If now lawyer Schrieffer (Lloyd) said the e-mails have complicated the AEG ./. Lloyd case and, maybe, Lloyd must not pay to AEG --- how knows what this will mean for this repayment to the Estate.
Perhaps there is a hope from parts of the family this repayment will be not or with complications. (?) And then.... they are meaning they would habe an evidence for their accusation against Mr Branca. (?)

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

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To me, everybody involved or mentioned in this mess should be called to come into court and testify under oath about how much they knew if they knew anything or their alleged participation in it. Because nobody should be allowed to just walk away from this and not have to answer some questions in court, especially with all the damage this has already done to Michael's legacy and the court cases the documents were for. Everybody's blaming everybody else and there has to be a way to find out how this disaster really happened and why. There needs to be a complete investigation into this travesty, in my opinion. And with all the talk that more information is about to come out, this situation sounds to me like it could become a whole lot worse if the court doesn't do something real soon.

 

[Bubs]

They don't care about Michael's memory. They don't care how it looks to people. It's okay for Michael to be thrown under the bus and his issues looked at. Yet Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie, Janet and mom and dad all have things they wouldn't want the public to know. It's okay that their privacy is protected. Michael is always sacrificed and used. Sorry I sound harsh or rude but I have no respect for any of these people. The Jacksons, AEG, Mann etc.

I still wish everyday that Michael was still here. If anything to be be with his kids who have shown more class and respect towards Michael than the so called adults in their lives. Shame on all of them. John Lennon, Elvis, Marley etc their families show more respect and protect their loved one better than Jacksons do towards Michael. It's not hate I feel because I feel nothing towards them. I hope the kids are happy and live a good life and hope that someday Michael can truly rest in peace and be remembered for the special person he was.

That bolded part reminded me of Randy's letter to the executors.
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"AEG has been very vocal about how they are going to destroy her and her family publicly and blame her for Michael’s death. Since then, they’ve waisted no time harassing each and every family member, including Michael’s children in a barrage of depositions, where they are asking personal, inappropriate and disrespectful questions that, to say the least, have nothing to do with his passing. This is something children should never have to experience; neither should an eighty-two year old woman. There has been no objection from you, the executors of Michael’s estate, regarding AEG heinous and heartless threats toward our mother, our family or his children. Why?

However, you did not hesitate writing a letter to Judge Palazuelos presiding over the AEG wrongful death case, wherein, you asked the judge to keep ALL documents handed over by AEG for discover under court seal, clearly protecting AEG, but not protecting our mother nor our niece and nephews Paris, Prince and Blanket. Who are you working for? What is it that you don’t want to be known?"
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I feel like throwing up uke: After the leaked emails, the amount of hypocrisy in that letter is unreal!
He is talking about how their family is going to be shamed in publicity, but yet they (family) has no problem to shame Michael, and Randy's talk about kids is just puke. Is he def, blind and stupid? What does he thinks all these emails out there is doing for kids?

Btw, if Branca saw those letters, no ****** wonder he asked them to be put under the court seal. I would have done the same if I was working for MJ and I have to protect him and his legacy.
Randy is really stupid if he thinks Branca's reason to ask to put emails under the seal is because he wanted to protect AEG, after reading part of them in papers (emotionally paralysed mess, basket case, drunk), Branca did ****** favour for Michael's memory, same cannot be said of family.

I have an answer for Randy's question to whom Branca is working for. He is working for Michael and for his benefit, no one else.

 

[Bubs]

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Guys I need help in remembering something from 09. After the memorial, didn't AEG give the estate the policy so they could file the claim, and then the estate paid AEG for the debts that arose while Michael was doing the production of TII? Now if the estate has the policy and Mann/Katherine try to help the insurance co win the case, aren't they essentially preventing the estate from recouping the insurance funds? We need to check this, because I have a vague idea that I read that information about the policy.

If the policy is with the estate, then the actions by Mann/Katherine and co show that they really do not care about the estate/Michael at all. It seems their need to hurt AEG is so strong that they would engage in actions to hurt their family member's reputation and prevent his estate from winning the claim, if AEG can be hurt in the process. Basically, hurting AEG's reputation is more important than Michael and his legacy.

Are you talking about MJ's life insurance?
The estate got Michael's life insurance money, i think it was 3 million.
I know there are more proper articles about MJ's life insurance, but this one was the first one to show up:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/2009-michael-jacksonaposs-life-insurance-policy-paid-out-news.html

 

[Bubs]

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exactly. the documents came from the court they had the private/sealed stamp blackened out.and why would murray have them in the first place. he wouldnt. all the rats are blaming each other.

so AEG are subbing mann lol. what did i say. but frankly im sure he will have no problem lieing under oath. whens the hearing on this? oct something?

They probably are trying to explain that they got them from Murray's lawyers, and Murray's team got them during the discovery.
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The documents LA Times had was
- 159 pages of discovery from AEG & AEG Live (148 pages confidential)
- 12 pages by Ortega (confidential)
- 1 page from Jacksons
- 36 pages from Murray
- 34 pages from court documents
- 4 pages of news articles
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I have seen so many try to bring Michael down but I never dreamed that members of his own family would be the ones to stick the knife in.

That bolded part hurt me to the core, but it is true.

I was reading comments on CNN, one of them had a same impact on me
"Katherine has abused her position as MJ's mom for 3 years"

Also true.

 

[The Brown Gangsta]

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I hope the family depositions somehow leak and gets even more attention than this leak. Their deadbeat ways should be put out for all the world to see and have the media spin them any horrible way they like. People like to talk about how Michael's finances were a wreck but look how irresponsibly KJ and her helpless cubs blow through money. I think KJ is actually on her best behavior when she's asking the estate for loans and bumps in her allowance, I have no doubt that she was much more bold and relentless about draining Michael's resources when he was alive.

I don't think anyone would be able to handle the all the crap Michael had to deal with as much poise and dignity as he has. I just wish people would acknowledge that before tearing him apart, judging, and mocking every personal struggle he has had.

 

[Bubs]

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I hope the family depositions somehow leak and gets even more attention than this leak. Their deadbeat ways should be put out for all the world to see and have the media spin them any horrible way they like. People like to talk about how Michael's finances were a wreck but look how irresponsibly KJ and her helpless cubs blow through money. I think KJ is actually on her best behavior when she's asking the estate for loans and bumps in her allowance, I have no doubt that she was much more bold and relentless about draining Michael's resources when he was alive.

I don't think anyone would be able to handle the all the crap Michael had to deal with as much poise and dignity as he has. I just wish people would acknowledge that before tearing him apart, judging, and mocking every personal struggle he has had.

That is what Randy was so scared of, which he addressed on his letter to the executors. I too wish that every dirty detail of their depositions will be leaked and we'll see how they feel then. The dirtier the better, in my opinion, they deserve every bit of it.

 

[loveforever]

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update for the cnn article

"CNN has learned from a lawyer for an insurance company embroiled in a lawsuit with AEG that Mann approached him several weeks ago offering the same documents to help their case against the promoter. The company declined to follow up since they did not know their authenticity, attorney Paul Schrieffer said.

Mann alerted the lawyer Saturday that the e-mails would be published in the newspaper Sunday, Schrieffer said. "The first time we saw these documents was in the Los Angeles Times article."

The existence of the e-mails, which were not turned over to the insurance company during the discovery phase of the case, have complicated AEG's effort to prevent a court from voiding the $17.5 million policy that AEG purchased through Lloyds of London, he said."

why Michael had the "family" like this, the worst ever. They tried to team with the insurance company that is suing Michael(the estate) and AEG to avoid paying Michael his 17.5 million policy. They asskiss Conrad Murray the man who killed him and let him cash in on his crime. All for $$$

 

[jaydom7]

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That is what Randy was so scared of, which he addressed on his letter to the executors. I too wish that every dirty detail of their depositions will be leaked and we'll see how they feel then. The dirtier the better, in my opinion, they deserve every bit of it.

Yep! I definitely want to hear Randy and Janet's deposition under oath. I want to hear about their interventions/concertventions where they claim they wanted to help MJ with his alleged drug problem all the while harrassing him to go on tour with them or do a family show in Texas for AllGood Entertainment:timer:

 

[Severus Snape]

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Watch this space, there is much more to come. Only a shame, but not mere coincidence, that these news "leak" when Bad 25 is around the corner...

Also, I'd take what Radar says with a grain of salt. These are the people who previously reported erroneous information such as stating Flanny would leave the defence, when it in fact turned out to be Chernoff who, predictably [being out-of-state, broke, and all] quit the case.

So they were dead wrong with that, as proven by Flanny's continued assistance in the appeal. I'm sure there are other things they've said previously that turned out to be balderdash.

But I know there's more to come regarding this new mess. I think we all know that.If anything, these emails show AEG was arguably culpable in regards to Michael's death. Not to the degree that Murray is, but almost on par with the scheming Jacksons. Reading their emails, you could see why he would drink. If I were under as much pressure as he was judging by AEG's behaviour, I'd be even more of a boozer than I currently am. Probably 24/7 a la Flanny, tbh.

When you consider what a feat making a comeback would be after all the years he spent off tour, even with a dedicated fan base like ours, you could see why he'd feel pressured. With that said, most people drink when under a lot of stress, you'd think if anything this would normalize him in the eyes of the shallow public, but they're trying to spin it in the worst possible way. And obviously [and evidently] neither AEG nor his family cared too much about him, all they ever saw/see are dollar signs attached to his name.

If my bosses treated me the way these people treated Michael, I'd probably have to drag my feet to work every day too, and I probably would [and have] call out sick every chance I got. The pressure they put on him was immense, so of course he'd have anxiety, doubts, etc. He is human, after all.

As for them checking out Murray, I don't think it's a secret that the man was deeply in debt and in danger of losing his home, so he clearly needed the gig, which is why he took it. We know that now, but I am sure, if they really checked him out after all, that they also knew that back then. It's not exactly well-hidden. The guy has several children, had various mistresses, and was very clearly living in a fantasy world way beyond his means before and after accepting the position he was offered. So, they had to have known, and while it is true that, as far as we know, Murray had no prior malpractice experiences, his precarious economic situation was/is well-documented. There's no way they would not know that, if they bothered to do a check on him at all, that is.

Anyway, I'm sure there's more to come, unfortunately. They seldom open with the worst. I'm sure the Jacksons will have a field day when/if more confidential info. is "leaked." With family like his, you're best off counting on nobody but yourself, and Michael realised that, which is why he isolated himself from them. I know because I have similar reasons for doing the same--you know every time they bother to reach out, it's because they want something or other from you. Never out of genuine care, love, or concern.

 

[Petrarose]

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Here we go again. That Radar on Line paper forgot that the e-mails AEG sent to the court were in a special format. The e-mails used in the Muarry case was not created in the same way, so how would Muarry's people have that information? Further, if they had information like that when they wanted to show that someone else killed Michael, wouldn't they sneak it in to show Muarry was innocent and someone in AEG was liable. They were searching for the OTHER, and even suggested people came into the room and Michael killed himself. Mann better prepare his day in court together with the rest of Katherine's children.

Oh Passy I looked back and see you mentioned the format already.

Mneme and Marebear thanks. I see you remembered that insurance policy I was trying to remember, so what we have here is a family who is trying to prevent the estate from getting that money. In trying to harm AEG, they are harming the estate. I hate to say this, but I feel that members of that family feel that if they cannot get their hands on the estate money, then they do not want Branca or anyone else to benefit from it. Consequently, they are engaging in a lot of maneuvers to harm Michael's name and legacy and the ability of the estate to generate money. I do not think it will work, but this is what I feel the intent is.

Snape I agree with you about the behavior of AEG towards Michael. Their words and treatment of him will ever be in our minds. What a horrible experience this man had. His family, semi-friends, acquaintances, enemies, and those he worked with all treated him like crap while making money off him. When will this man have some justice??

 

[Severus Snape]

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^I have to agree, although at this point I would not be surprised if Murray's defence were involved in some offhanded way or other. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be stupid enough to directly leak this themselves, and like you said, if anything this would have been a card to play in Murray's defence, avoiding the need to desperately grasp at unlikely straws such as the things you've mentioned in your post.

Still, I would not be too surprised if somewhere down the line a name either from or connected to the defence was dropped. It seems like their kind of thing, to be honest. Of course, it pretty much goes without saying that the Jacksons played a part in the leakage of info.

If anything, this puts the following in clear terms: no one involved in this whole mess ever had Michael's welfare in mind. All the AEG people, the Jacksons, and Murray ever thought of was money. Their words and actions have proved this.

It seems only the Estate and Michael's children really give a damn about his legacy, or about him altogether as a human being.

 

[Petrarose]

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Snape yes, but the curious thing is that Mann does not have a fraud case/legal action against AEG, so out of the blue clear sky we are to assume that he was walking down the street one day, and decided to get some e-mails from Muarry's team and your boyfriend Flanny, get some more from fans, and then decide to sabotage the insurance case for the estate, and dirty up Michael to help the Jacksons win the AEG case? Now I know that Mann is not the most sensible person out there--remember how many times they had to explain to him that owning a property does not mean you own the intellectual rights. He still has not understood that to this day, by the way. However, Mann's actions are based on what motivation or reward? What is Mann getting out of this, and who asked him to do this?

I just had another thought: Mann just lost a case against the estate, so by his actions, he thumps his nose at the estate, i.e., harm their insurance case, because those e-mails harm Michael more than AEG.

 

[Big Apple2]

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However, Mann's actions are based on what motivation or reward? What is Mann getting out of this, and who asked him to do this?

Me, personally, can see RANDY JACKSON promising Howard Mann the "the sun, the moon, and the stars," if he would be willing to help Randy execute his plan.


I mean, Mann's business, that he thought would make him an instant multi-millionaire is now gone to dust. So why not help Randy, while BLINDLY thinking that Randy will somehow win HIS case against AEG and will then cut Mann a slice of the pie. (I say HIS case, because in my opinion the case against AEG is Randy's case, Mother is just the face of the case.)

They get involved with these different individuals in the HOPE of receiving massive riches for all, and we have seen in the past that that NEVER happens.

Randy already kidnapped his own mother, so making outlandish promises to Howard Mann probably comes easy to his crazy behind.

 

[Severus Snape]

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@Petrarose: I agree in that Mann had to have some sort of agenda which prompted him to take this decision. Like you, I don't think it was out of the blue/random, nor do I think he got the emails from the defence directly, as I said. I'd like to believe my boyfriend Flanny (as you so humourously put it, lol) would not be stupid enough to dip his alcohol-spiked spoon in this pathetic (and non-alcoholic) pudding. I'm not saying the defence were directly involved--but it would not surprise me if something or other eventually indirectly linked itself back to them, is all I'm saying.

Now, we know that KJ (and by proxy the leeches she has for children, no doubt) has been chummy with Mann in recent history, so it is possible the fact this somewhat benefits the current case against AEG played into the decision, but this in itself does not seem like enough reason for Mann to put himself out there like this. Could be some sort of vendetta he has against the Estate, and the fact the emails make AEG look extremely bad is purely coincidental. It is possible that, as you say, he was aiming to make Michael/the Estate look bad, which has been somewhat achieved, but the party which comes out looking worse is definitely AEG. I don't know how anyone could look at these emails and not conclude they were irresponsible and tyrannical, to say the least. The only way they could possibly look any worse is if they were the Jacksons, or Murray.

It makes sense, I reckon, that Mann's intentions would be to cause some damage after counting his losses. His reputation as a sleazeball precedes him, and I don't think anyone would put these games past him.

Of course the Jacksons will probably have a media and/or social network field day when more comes out, and it probably will, and it'll be another very uncomfortable pill to swallow for us as a fan base.

In any case, it seems like everyone's got their own agendas in regards to this. It's all very odd, to be honest. If they did not know about this previously and indeed had nothing to do with it, the defence surely has gotten wind of this by now. I don't particularly know what that means for them as a whole, seeing as most of the known evidence overwhelmingly condemns Murray, and I doubt a few emails would change people's stance on him too much, even if they do reflect unfavourably on AEG and, to a lesser extent, Michael.

I guess we'll have to stay tuned and see what comes down the line as far as further development in this odd turn of events.

 

[Soundmind]

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I'm convinced now some of the Jacksons want to humiliate MJ as much as possible in order to get back at Prince and Paris.

 

[Petrarose]

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Snape and Big Apple I agree with you here. I feel too that the AEG case is Randy's case and that he has access to the court documents via Katherine. I think he together with others made a decision to have this information exposed via a third party. Here we go again with the judge's Third Party phrase, but Randy does act consistently in his habits. I guess the last time they used the family and they got a lot of negative press and did not achieve anything monetary, so this time they use a non-family fraudster to strike the blow.

What I do not understand is how could Mann think he could get anything substantial from Randy and co. Doesn't he see that they never win anything, or is Mann being blinded by AEG's wealth and forgetting the family has to prove their case in order to get their hands on it? I doubt their other information to be leaked is worse than this, because the Jacksons usually give us the best (worse in reality) they have first. They never save the punch line for last, as witnessed by the last fiasco. Rather, we were to hear more in the future, which never came.

About the questioning of Mann by AEG, we all know Mann cannot be trusted to tell the truth. He did say he got some emails from fans, which is highly unlikely, unless he means Jackson family fans; then maybe that is possible if the fans got them from the Jacksons. I only hope that AEG has lawyers who are versed in drilling people like Mann.

Soundmind actually you brought in an element that I did not think about--getting back at Michael's children. The main persons I can see trying to do something like that would be Randy and Janet. They must feel that they were humiliated by the kids the last time. However, from statements made in the past both resent and do not feel that the kids should have the money, so it makes sense that they would try hard so that the estate does not make too much money. Maybe that is one of the reasons they put out trash every time something good is going on in the Michael world.

 

[Big Apple2]

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Soundmind actually you brought in an element that I did not think about--getting back at Michael's children. The main persons I can see trying to do something like that would be Randy and Janet. They must feel that they were humiliated by the kids the last time.

Yes, I agree. Not only humiliated by the children, but in my opinion, it also goes further back.

BOTTOMLINE - some Jackson family members just don't believe that Michael's children should have access to all of that money. Once Mother is gone, her portion reverts back to the children. With "certain" family members left sitting on the outside with access to NOTHING!

I'm sure the thought of that must drive Randy Jackson to the point of no return regarding his craziness and his desperation.

 

[Soundmind]

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a fine of $ 50,000 is not really significant . I want to know could the judge send Mann to jail for breaking his orders? we know any monetary judgment against him or even Katherine will be paid eventually by the estate.

 

[HIStory]

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Soundmind actually you brought in an element that I did not think about--getting back at Michael's children. The main persons I can see trying to do something like that would be Randy and Janet. They must feel that they were humiliated by the kids the last time. However, from statements made in the past both resent and do not feel that the kids should have the money, so it makes sense that they would try hard so that the estate does not make too much money. Maybe that is one of the reasons they put out trash every time something good is going on in the Michael world.

Not only getting back at Michael's children IMO, but also Michael himself. For not touring with them, for isolating himself from them all those years. And for not leaving a penny to them. I have the feeling once Katherine dies things will get even uglier.

 

[pug]

That bolded part reminded me of Randy's letter to the executors.
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However, you did not hesitate writing a letter to Judge Palazuelos presiding over the AEG wrongful death case, wherein, you asked the judge to keep ALL documents handed over by AEG for discover under court seal, clearly protecting AEG, but not protecting our mother nor our niece and nephews Paris, Prince and Blanket. Who are you working for? What is it that you don’t want to be known?"

It has been Randy's goal all along to make public these e-mails. He did not believe they should be left sealed and he was angry at the Estate for making insisting they be sealed. Randy thinks he's smart and knows what is best, what a delusion. If Randy wanted to be a lawyer he has had years to get the education to do so, he is not and he needs to stop pretending. It's like when he pretended he was a financial advisor and almost lost Michael's catalog. The Estate does not belong to him, Michael set it up the way he wanted and his wishes should be respected. The family needs to back off and stop the money grabbing. Someone said it before me but it is true: EVEN A TICK STOPS LEECHING WHEN IT'S VICTIM IS DEAD!!

 

[Soundmind]

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I have the feeling once Katherine dies things will get even uglier.

no doubt, not because she is preventing them for reveling anything ,actually now they r still somehow managing to get the money she's stealing fom the kids allownace but once she dies, they would be left with nothing and would go to the tabloids with wild accusations and stories against MJ.

 

[marebear]

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I think all the fans around the world come Sept 18 should go on twitter, facebook etc and promote the hell out of Bad 25 and remind people why Michael was the best.

What goes around will come around. Maybe I am naive but Michael's legacy is stronger than this and will survive. It survived everything when he was alive and it will survive this. His family are showing their true colors and when his children are old enough they will put people in their places. They have started already and the Jacksons felt the backlash this summer by the public and the media.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

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I shouldn't be surprised, but the fact mann/randy went to lloyds with the leaked emails to try and sabotage the insurance case is just outright war against mj's estate. The insurance is held by aeg and the mjj company which presumably is owned by the estate, so the $17.5m payout would presumably be split between the 2 if the case is won? It's just atrocious that mrs j's actions, whether direct or not, are doing such harm to her son's estate, what with her business partnership with mann resulting in a costly lawsuit for the estate and now this, confidential docs that she had ending up being leaked by her business partner.


She has a massive conflict of interest being the guardian of the main beneficiaries of the mj estate and being involved in these illegal actions by her children against the estate. She's not made one public statement about her anger at the leaking of these emails, just some lawyer making a denial hiding behind the children's names. I can't see how her continued guardianship is tenable, the judge missed a huge opportunity in not ending it last month.

 

[Bubs]

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Can somebody explain to me this insurance thingy?
I thought this Lloyds case is about the insurance AEG took in case Michael cannot pull off the TII.
"The insurance policy was taken out to cover the cancellation or postponement of the London concerts in the case of the death, accident or illness of Michael."

As I understand it, Lloyds sued AEG and refused to pay 17,5 million to AEG.
What I fail to understand what estate got to do with this Lloyds/AEG case?
If somebody could be so kind and explain, please include links for source.

Ps, I know executors collected 3 million life insurance for kids.