Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

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dam2040 said:
Not sure what MJ saw in Don't Be Messin to carry it through so many eras the way he did!
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The fact that he wrote it/composed it mostly

Maybe it was just a producer's test bed, and was never intended to be finished. Actually scratch that, it was probably on the lists.
 

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dam2040 said:
Not sure what MJ saw in Don't Be Messin to carry it through so many eras the way he did!
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In all fairness we haven't heard its supposedly finished version.


SmoothGangsta said:
I remember someone who worked on messin' saying that the more finished version is awesome. (Can't remember who, Matt Forger?)
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It was Bruce Swedien who spoke highly of that song.
 

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FlyAway0086 said:
I believe it was supposed to feature Nelson Mandela, but the project fell through do to certain controversies, at the time. Matt Forger was going to fly out to record Mandela, but the trip was called off, at the last minute. Pretty much sealed the fate of the track.
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Faces has one of the coolest, if not, the coolest rhythmic pattern in any MJ song. Man, how I wish Michael did something more about it.
 

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FlyAway0086 said:
I believe it was supposed to feature Nelson Mandela, but the project fell through do to certain controversies, at the time. Matt Forger was going to fly out to record Mandela, but the trip was called off, at the last minute. Pretty much sealed the fate of the track.
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It has been written that the project fell through because of Nelson Mandela's advisors who advised him to cancel his planned speech on the 'Faces' song.

Which is odd, because that song was meant as a tribute song to Nelson Mandela.
MultiResearcher said:
So there is more releasable post Invincible songs? Assuming it was really recorded in 2007.
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Many unreleased song titles in a releasable state (in the post 'Invincible' album era) have been mentioned by his fans.

But it appears that not many of these songs actually exist in a complete or in a nearly complete state (vocally).

But note that according to press reports in 2012, the hack on Sony's web servers (that affected other artists, as well) affected also certain unreleased songs (apparently, in a releasable state) that Michael Jackson recorded in his final years.

For example, it was reported in 2012 that among these unreleased songs were also unreleased songs from the will.i.am sessions that were meant for inclusion on Michael Jackson's comeback album.
 

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mj_frenzy said:
It has been written that the project fell through because of Nelson Mandela's advisors who advised him to cancel his planned speech on the 'Faces' song.

Which is odd, because that song was meant as a tribute song to Nelson Mandela.

Many unreleased song titles in a releasable state (in the post 'Invincible' album era) have been mentioned by his fans.

But it appears that not many of these songs actually exist in a complete or in a nearly complete state (vocally).

But note that according to press reports in 2012, the hack on Sony's web servers (that affected other artists, as well) affected also certain unreleased songs (apparently, in a releasable state) that Michael Jackson recorded in his final years.

For example, it was reported in 2012 that among these unreleased songs were also unreleased songs from the will.i.am sessions that were meant for inclusion on Michael Jackson's comeback album.
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There were no Will.I.Am MJ tracks on those servers back then though
 

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People went from not sharing the tracks to deep conversations about it all... here, facebook, Twitter...I really don't get the mj community. Lmao folks mad & happy at the same time & we've gotten leaks for years. Every leak we ever had was stolen....we were never meant to see or hear alot from what we heard so.... im just smiling smh thinking this community is like a toxic relationship. U love em but you can't leave because they're family🤣
 

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wonderouzmj said:
People went from not sharing the tracks to deep conversations about it all... here, facebook, Twitter...I really don't get the mj community. Lmao folks mad & happy at the same time & we've gotten leaks for years. Every leak we ever had was stolen....we were never meant to see or hear alot from what we heard so.... im just smiling smh thinking this community is like a toxic relationship. U love em but you can't leave because they're family🤣
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I respect that everyone has differing viewpoints on the matter. For me, personally, I don't condone the theft of the music, but Brad Buxer once said (paraphrasing) - "If it [leaked music] gets out - great. If it doesn't - great." This was on the MJCast, I believe. Morally, the stealing is wrong, but at the same time, these tracks - finished or not - are all we have in the way of "new" material from MJ. I believe for many fans, it's like grasping for anything that's left of a musical legend.
 

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FlyAway0086 said:
I respect that everyone has differing viewpoints on the matter. For me, personally, I don't condone the theft of the music, but Brad Buxer once said (paraphrasing) - "If it [leaked music] gets out - great. If it doesn't - great." This was on the MJCast, I believe. Morally, the stealing is wrong, but at the same time, these tracks - finished or not - are all we have in the way of "new" material from MJ. I believe for many fans, it's like grasping for anything that's left of a musical legend.
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I agree with that as well
 

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FlyAway0086 said:
Brad Buxer once said (paraphrasing) - "If it [leaked music] gets out - great. If it doesn't - great."
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Was he talking about in an official capacity, or is he accepting that leaks happen? Cause that'd be two different contexts. He probably meant if it leaks out, though, right?
 

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Anyway, if MJ was literally making rap beats like Dr. Dre, with Neff-U, than there is definitely no objection to gifting them to a rapper MJ respected. Or at least one that aligns with his values.

Pharrell actually. Imagine, he wanted to give MJ beats and then he ends up given MJ beats.
 

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Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Was he talking about in an official capacity, or is he accepting that leaks happen? Cause that'd be two different contexts. He probably meant if it leaks out, though, right?
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He was referring to unofficial recordings, specifically. I want to say that it was "Days In Gloucestershire" being referenced.
 

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Fuzball said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1541288062759579649

"Stop That" could be developed from Tomboy

At around the 0:55 mark there's a "hee hee" burried on the right audio channel - sounds much like MJ.

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Good find. This must be it. I believe he mentions Michael in the album notes, so this makes sense. Just wonder now if the MJ version has any vocals by him. I bet they must if we can hear the hee hee.

Also hear multiple "Owws" at the beginning.
 

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"The Star Of The World"Michael Jackson
  • Written and recorded in 1991
  • Is said to be a "Disney-type" of song.
  • Fully complete and ready for release.
  • Considered for "Invincible" and "Michael"
  • The chorus includes "The Star Of The World, This Wonderful World
 

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Do we have informations about the songs in the 1999 canceled album ?
There were Angel, The world is no church. And the others ?
 

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I honestly do wish some things had been handled differently.

Behind The Mask had no place on an album like Michael. The whole effort of that album, tbh, is mishandled, but let's not get too far into that. Thriller 40 just would've been quite good if Behind The Mask was basically never heard before.

Chicago 1945 if it had been on the album, maybe that would've made a better effort of everything overall. But it would certainly have been cool if it had not leaked.

Idk, just feeling a bit of melancholy over so many lost potential hits..
 

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Derek1984 said:
Good find. This must be it. I believe he mentions Michael in the album notes, so this makes sense. Just wonder now if the MJ version has any vocals by him. I bet they must if we can hear the hee hee.

Also hear multiple "Owws" at the beginning.
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Would be cool, if we would have access to the songs multitracks. Perhaps everything from Tomboy (including MJ vocals) is present there. @nick2341: do you have access to the multitracks of "Stop That" (Zapp) by chance??

ChanceToDance said:
(Regarding Tomboy) "My notes say: synth drums, bass, guitar riff, very nice strings, similar sounds to Captain EO at times, similar instrumental melody line to “I bet you remember”
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CapEO sound pattern is present in the Zapp song.
 

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AlwaysThere said:
“Angel” doesn’t exist, nor does “Do You Love Me.” Those were rumors drummed up by Black and White magazine that, upon further investigation, turned out to be untrue.
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Angel existed only Rodney Jerkins have this song but we can called Angel Love is just that the Snippets and instrumental are Fake
 
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