Mark Geragos on His Client Frank Cascio vs Michael Jackson

At the moment we are supposed to believe that 7 different kids were molested by MJ and all 7 did not tell a single soul about it until 20-30 years later after Michael Jackson had died and all around the time either themselves or their families got into financial difficulties.

Nor did they help Gavin Arvizo during the 2005 trial when they could have spoken up and put MJ behind bars and thus been safe from MJ and also have saved other potential molestation victims? So all of them turned into masterful liars that kept 100% silent? I just find that very hard to believe!
 
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But I find it hard to believe that Frank behaved like a true gentleman and somehow it was all fabricated, but we cant know for sure.
You've just demonstrated the exact viewpoint most will use against MJ.

The fake songs, FCs book, the fact that he worked for MJ as an adult and was part of the 2005 trial needs to be front and centre of any rebuttal to the Cascio allegations. Shame TMZ glossed over the fake songs.
 
You've just demonstrated the exact viewpoint most will use against MJ.

The fake songs, FCs book, the fact that he worked for MJ as an adult and was part of the 2005 trial needs to be front and centre of any rebuttal to the Cascio allegations. Shame TMZ glossed over the fake songs.
With exception that there await no big financial payout from describing Frank Cascios alleged bad behavior while making accusations against MJ all can be related to enormous financial motives! That is why I always say that you can not compare the accusations against MJ with any accusations made against a standard citizen/normal person. Nobody would for example falsely accuse Jack 49 of child molestation as there would be nothing to gain from it!

Frank Cascio was not hated by the fan base as he defended MJ in his book and everywhere else, even with the fake songs hitting there was certainly no mob against him, many fans are still not even aware that the songs are fake and even less so who was behind it!

The 2005 trial is tricky as Frank was one of the 5 co-conspirators along with Dieter Wiesner, Ronald Konitzer, Mark Schaffel and Vinnie Amen who allegedly assisted MJ in molesting children in various ways but for some bizarre reason were not charged with any crime.

Perhaps that whole scenario will be explained, or at least Franks version of it! But like you have noted before, it would be tough for Frank to bury MJ in the 2005 trial while excusing himself! Unless he claims he was being strung along by Michael Jackson via some kind of role play or that MJ was controlling him. At this point I would not be surprised by anything!
 
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With exception that there await no big financial payout from describing Frank Cascios alleged bad behavior while making accusations against MJ all can be related to enormous financial motives! That is why I always say that you can not compare the accusations against MJ with any accusations made against a standard citizen/normal person. Nobody would for example falsely accuse Jack 49 of child molestation as there would be nothing to gain from it!
All true, except it's only us fans that seem to care about the fake songs and the financial motives. Rest of the world seems to not care about those details. The Faking Michael podcast was great investigative journalism released a year ago, but it had no impact outside the fan community. And I think MJs voluntary 93 settlement is what works against him when accusing others of financial motives, it's seen as hush money irrespective of whether it was or wasn't. And these Cascio payments will likely look the same.
Did the TMZ reporter bring up 2005 trial?

Also, false allegations also occur outside of the world of the rich and famous.
 
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Which victim writes a thick book about his tormenter With a lot of love who still believes that you can't help
 
All true, except it's only us fans that seem to care about the fake songs and the financial motives. Rest of the world seems to not care about those details. The Faking Michael podcast was great investigative journalism released a year ago, but it had no impact outside the fan community. And I think MJs voluntary 93 settlement is what works against him when accusing others of financial motives, it's seen as hush money irrespective of whether it was or wasn't. And these Cascio payments will likely look the same.
Did the TMZ reporter bring up 2005 trial?

Also, false allegations also occur outside of the world of the rich and famous.

I dont think they spoke much about the 2005 trial, I did watch the entire interview, but since Frank did not testify I believe there was little to discuss there.

Geragos also kept saying that the estate should have a duty to inform the kids and Katherine about settlements and stuff. That was brought up by Geragos 3 or 4 times with the TMZ host disagreeing with him as thats not how the estate is set up. Branca does not have to go to Prince and say "hey Prince, we are set to do this, do you give us permission to do that?" The only thing the kids could do is go to a court and say thate estate is not working in their best interest - but that would require the estate probably losing a lot of money or tanking the estate on purpose - which is the opposite of what they have done!

As for the fake songs, of course non-MJ fans wont pay attention to that as long as its not tied to the credibility of the Cascios. And I do not think many outside the fan base knows about both the fake tracks and the new allegations. But of course I would hope it will be brought to attention if the Cascios are given the green light to go public with this!

False accusations does indeed take place, but it happens a lot more often if the accused is filthy rich, which we knows as MJ had 1000s of lawsuits every year regarding various things!
 
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Geragos also kept saying that the estate should have a duty to inform the kids and Katherine about settlements and stuff. That was brought up by Geragos 3 or 4 times with the TMZ host disagreeing with him as thats not how the estate is set up. Branca does not have to go to Prince and say "hey Prince, we are set to do this, do you give us permission to do that?" The only thing the kids could do is go to a court and say thate estate is not working in their best interest - but that would require the estate probably losing a lot of money or tanking the estate on purpose - which is the opposite of what they have done!
Which is what Paris Jackson is accusing the Estate of:

US Weekly: Paris Jackson Compares Michael’s Estate Executors to ‘The Wizard of Oz’ as They Reveal $65M Was Spent On Her (Exclusive)

More on that:
 
I’m angry at MJ for allowing himself to be caught up in these situations. As you rightly said, after the Chandler stuff he should have distanced himself completely, yet he continued doing exactly what he wanted.

It was not good for his image.

Who’s next? Brett Barnes? I’m surprised he’s never came forward at this point.

The whole thing is ridiculous but one day I fear a victim will eventually win in court and if they do , it will open the floodgates and MJ’s career will be ruined.
I'm confident that Brett Barnes and Macaulay Culkin will never ever accuse MJ. The media tried to make Aaron Carter accuse MJ, but it backfired:

“In my opinion it WAS a Little inappropriate what’s the problem with that? What I achieved? I’m not trying to achieve anything except telling my story to validate he didn’t f—ing do anything sexual! Are you all this stupid? Honestly?”


People: Aaron Carter Clarifies His Claim That Michael Jackson Was 'Inappropriate,' Says It Wasn't 'Sexual'

I've only heard the rumour about FC sleeping with fans in order to allow fans access to MJ. I don't think any of this was substantiated, I think it was rumours from follower fans and the online fan community at the time.

@Moonstreet might be able to shed more light on these rumours, as I believe she was part of the follower fan community at some point.
Out of curiosity... Only female fans?
 
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......The 2005 trial is tricky as Frank was one of the 5 co-conspirators along with Dieter Wiesner, Ronald Konitzer, Mark Schaffel and Vinnie Amen who allegedly assisted MJ in molesting children in various ways but for some bizarre reason were not charged with any crime.

Perhaps that whole scenario will be explained, or at least Franks version of it! But like you have noted before, it would be tough for Frank to bury MJ in the 2005 trial while excusing himself! Unless he claims he was being strung along by Michael Jackson via some kind of role play or that MJ was controlling him. At this point I would not be surprised by anything!
The 5 co-conspirators were not indicted because the prosecution - Tom Sneddon et al, including Gordon Auchinloss and Ronald Zonan thought they had enough to convict.
Joe Tacopina, who would have represented the 5 co-conspirators as their defense attorney should they be indicted, thought it would be a TRIAL WITHIN A TRIAL,
which can cause the overall legal case to be protracted.
The conspiracy trial would have taken place before the actual Michael trial.
Furthermore, if the co-conspirators were acquitted, that would mean a shoe-in ACQUITTAL FOR MICHAEL, certainly a risk too big for Mad Dog (Tom Sneddon ) to stomach.
It is worth noting, though, Debbie Rowe, who had testified in court in 2005's trial, described
the co-conspirators (Frank Cascio alias Frank Tyson included) as "opportunistic vultures" who were exploiting Michael .

 
Out of curiosity... Only female fans?
From my very vague recollection yes. But I also remember it being said that this was a rumour passed on by jealous follower fans about other follower fans to explain preferencial treatment. Like I said, this was all unsubstantiated, so doesn't really hold any weight. FC was a young man at that time, there were a lot of young women around, I think it could even be reasonably expected.

I think even LMP indirectly described the Cascios as vampires/leeches.

I wish I shared your confidence about BB and MC but I don't. MJ has proven that he willingly bought and kept all the wrong people in his inner circle. I'm pretty sure that during most of the 90s, he spent every Xmas with the Cascios. If he spent that much time with them and got them so wrong then I seriously question others he kept within his inner circle.
 
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I often say fans ( and of course fake "fans") do just as much harm as the lying media by blindly believing and spreading their false narratives.

The proof of this is that most of you cannot even see that the casios are actually the ones in trouble.

You blindly believe the daily fails article, which is a lie. No lawsuit has been filed they blatantly lied. Jael Rucker filed a complaint against dailyfail and was told that the dailyfail is basically allowed to lie about whatever they want when it concerns subjects outside of the UK


We've been discussing this cascio crap here for months now. So all of you should know that MG has only responded to the estates petition for arbitration. No lawsuit has been filed yet! And in fact the Cascios are in big trouble if the judges in this case actually follow the law and don't react with their foolish emotions like those idiot appeals court judges.

They committed textbook extortion and the estate has emails of their extortion demands.

But the dailyfail posted one lie filled article and many of you forget everything that's been discussed for over a year and just blindly believe them without a second thought. SMDH.
 
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I often say fans ( and of course fake "fans") do just as much harm as the lying media by blindly believing and spreading they're false narratives.

The proof of this is that most of you cannot even see that the casios are actually the ones in trouble.

You blindly believe the daily fails article, which is a lie. No lawsuit has been filed they blatantly lied. Jael Rucker filed a complaint against dailyfail and was told that the dailyfail is basically allowed to lie about whatever they want when it concerns subjects outside of the UK


We've been discussing this cascio crap here for months now. So all of you should know that MG has only responded to the estates petition for arbitration. No lawsuit has been filed yet! And in fact the Cascios are in big trouble if the judges in this case actually follow the law and don't react with their foolish emotions like those idiot appeals court judges.

They committed textbook extortion and the estate has emails of their extortion demands.

But the dailyfail posted one lie filled article and many of you forget everything that's been discussed for over a year and just blindly believe them without a second thought. SMDH.
I don't think there are many here referencing that said article.

What we are doing is thinking forward to the damage that will inevitably be caused by FC speaking, as was hinted by the TMZ interview.

The legal proceedings of WR and JS were well under way before LN, but it was them speaking in LN that did the most damage to MJ, not the legal paperwork beforehand.
 
At the moment we are supposed to believe that 7 different kids were molested by MJ and all 7 did not tell a single soul about it until 20-30 years later after Michael Jackson had died and all around the time either themselves or their families got into financial difficulties.

Nor did they help Gavin Arvizo during the 2005 trial when they could have spoken up and put MJ behind bars and thus been safe from MJ and also have saved other potential molestation victims? So all of them turned into masterful liars that kept 100% silent? I just find that very hard to believe!
You find it hard to believe???

SMH

You do realize that MJ never did those things?
Those are the wild money hungry fantasies of some of the most vile people in existence.

Their lies & stories are so ridiculous, so brazen, so dumb & bold. It’s really laughable that anybody would give them the benefit of the doubt.


Another tidbit:
The Father of the family (Dominic Cascio) supposedly died recently. He was the original friend of MJ. He brought MJ into his family.

I think it’s no coincidence that now, that he is dead the backstabbing brats of his go full force with their BS plan.
He probably wouldn’t have wanted them to go this far.
 
I generally don’t wish bad things on nobody.

But there are some exceptions, especially in MJ‘s cosmos.

The Cascio‘s now rank very high on that list.

• the fake tracks
• the book „my friend…“ (MY ASS!!!)
• the shameless auctions
• then extortion #1
• and now this …

They all should go to hell!!!
 
I hope they will not be allowed or able to do that if they get free´d up because I think that would pretty mean the case is impossible to win. If you have 7 different people showing up to witness about similar abuse and grooming etc, I just dont see with the 50.01 vs 49.99 % burden of proof in a civil trial how a jury or judge wont convict! As they would also think "oh its just the super rich companies or the Estate paying damages anyways"
it has nothing with proving or not, I'm saying this since the claims and the ask for is the same.
 
I don't think there are many here referencing that said article.

What we are doing is thinking forward to the damage that will inevitably be caused by FC speaking, as was hinted by the TMZ interview.

The legal proceedings of WR and JS were well under way before LN, but it was them speaking in LN that did the most damage to MJ, not the legal paperwork beforehand.
But the point is they didn't file a lawsuit yet, the estate went after them for extortion and breaking the agreement.

If the judges follow the law, frank will not be able to spread his lies. And they have no legal grounds to sue.
 
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