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Right this is something that is infuriating me personally.

A few weeks ago before it was confirmed homicide, I went downstairs and my brother had the news on they were reporting what Murray told the police in that warrant as 'fact' WHY?

This is what Murray said... its his version of events and the media is all like 'poor debt ridden doctor had to put up with druggie Michael's demands...' Right, whatever Michael's case with drugs was, yes he may have had a problem but... why report the doctor's testament as fact/the truth?? Why not question why some sources say(obviously I can't say its truth as none of us know the truth right now):

- he delayed the 911 call, some say due to no phone line but he made cellphone calls
- some say he didn't know the street address, he drove there everyday!
- he did bad CPR and left Michael to make calls
- he may have made the paramedics carry on CPR when Michael was already dead
- he wouldn't sign the death certificate at the hospital

Until the media cover those issues as well as Murray's versions of events I say scr*w the media! Their reporting on this is so biased towards the doctor. Whether or not Michael had drug problems or not is not the case now, its why the doctor did it and did not do all he could to save Michael's life that day.


Look at this from today....
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/97383/Doc-*****-bullied-me/
and
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/125319/Jackson-to-blame-for-own-death-
There is more than one article like this, not only saying Michael bullied him but... some report what the Doc says as the truth/fact - so out of order! They don't question much of what he did that day though do they!

Why are they siding with the doctor who behaved very strangely that day... why report what he says like its the truth/fact!
 
Because media are controlled by mega-corporations, some of which have ties to Sony?

Oh, and if there is anyone here who really thinks the Arvizos acted alone, raise your hand?
 
Why are they siding with the doctor who behaved very strangely that day... why report what he says like its the truth/fact![
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becasue the media have always hated mike. u think they will change cause hes not here. u think they supported mj in 93 or 03 even when the facts were there for all to see
 
This is how the media see it: Here's a guy who will most likely be arrested and thrown in a jail cell because he's an incompetent idiot. The doctor admits that he's guilty but is using the "Michael begged me. I was stupid" defence. So the media comes into this all like "he can't help but be an idiot. He was so innocent and helpless. Michael begged him. Leave Murray alone!"

Basically, the media feel bad for the doctor because Michael supposedly demanded the propofol, and Murray's getting the blame for it. They seem to forget that Murray admitted to giving Michael 3 different sedatives in 6 hours, prior to giving him the propofol. Under 3 different sedatives, Michael would barely be able to talk, let alone DEMAND. I guess when it comes to the media and Michael, common sense is thrown out the window.
 
Victoria83 said:
Because media are controlled by mega-corporations, some of which have ties to Sony?

Oh, and if there is anyone here who really thinks the Arvizos acted alone, raise your hand?
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Rupert Murdoch not sony .
 
Yep guys I know why and that they've always been against him, I just wanted to point it out so more people out there see it too. I feel it needs to be discussed and attention bought to the fact.

Thanks for the Sony/Murdoch link Victoria83.
 
believe me It is no one but Rupert Murdoch. sony had issues with mj but everything leads to Murdoch .
 
myfavouritewintercoat said:
Yep guys I know why and that they've always been against him, I just wanted to point it out so more people out there see it too. I feel it needs to be discussed and attention bought to the fact.

Thanks for the Sony/Murdoch link Victoria83.
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The Media is Fake and controlled by The Illuminati, Secret Societies, TriLateral who ever you want to call them; they are good for combining 1% of Truth with 99% of Lies so if you know how to decipher their Lies, you can get the picture, if you look at a picture and cant see it clearly; turn it upside down and you can see the picture clearly.
 
Negative sensationalist stories sell I know and I believe they'll stay that way especially as Murdoch is saying he has lost billions and is now going to charge for people to look at his sites....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8186701.stm

They have recently been attacking the BBC too... to think he calls the BBC 'dominant' what a cheek http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8227915.stm

I think as the public its our duty to point it out when it happens for those who are easily manipulated by the media's view.
 
Oceangirl said:
believe me It is no one but Rupert Murdoch. sony had issues with mj but everything leads to Murdoch .
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This is an unusual post . . . . and no, I don't "believe" you, necessarily. Not "everything" leads to Murdoch. At these higher levels of mega-corporations, "deals" are made all the time. Just look at the connection with AEG and Sony, co-producing the TII movie? Some deals are public knowledge, and some are not.

Sony didn't have "issues" with Michael. They wanted his catalog. I think the failure to promote Invincible was related to that, and a lot else. This line of investigation is NOT going away. We're exploring all possible avenues.
 
MJ#1WhoIsIt said:
The Media is Fake and controlled by The Illuminati, Secret Societies, TriLateral who ever you want to call them; they are good for combining 1% of Truth with 99% of Lies so if you know how to decipher their Lies, you can get the picture, if you look at a picture and cant see it clearly; turn it upside down and you can see the picture clearly.
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We have closed the Illuminati thread. For a reason.
 
exactly Sony wants the share in Sony/ATV but Murdoch hate toward mj started way before that and the chandlers allegations made Murdoch take things even more personally and launch a war against MJ .
 
Victoria83 said:
We have closed the Illuminati thread. For a reason.
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Wow ! ! ! you sure did close it Why; what reason was it not beneficial to those who where seeking information and posting about Michael's Death?; and what does that have to do with this thread and my post? Are we not suppose to type the word "Illuminati" on this forum is that what you are saying? I dont understand please explain.
 
Oceangirl said:
exactly Sony wants the share in Sony/ATV but Murdoch hate toward mj started way before that and the chandlers allegations made Murdoch take things even more personally and launch a war against MJ .
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It may not be so much personal, as financial. I think there are many things behind the scenes that we do NOT know . . .
 
no , not financial , what murdoch did was very systematic and well planned . it is nothing about finacial gain. well, at least i don't believe so
 
imo i doubt murdoch gives a dam hes to busy trying to mess with goverments to get what he wants. its the individual editors and the fact all the media go after mj not just murdochs. if everyone else loved him except murdochs then yeah theres a point but that isnt the case
 
myfavouritewintercoat said:
Right this is something that is infuriating me personally.

A few weeks ago before it was confirmed homicide, I went downstairs and my brother had the news on they were reporting what Murray told the police in that warrant as 'fact' WHY?

This is what Murray said... its his version of events and the media is all like 'poor debt ridden doctor had to put up with druggie Michael's demands...' Right, whatever Michael's case with drugs was, yes he may have had a problem but... why report the doctor's testament as fact/the truth?? Why not question why some sources say(obviously I can't say its truth as none of us know the truth right now):

- he delayed the 911 call, some say due to no phone line but he made cellphone calls
- some say he didn't know the street address, he drove there everyday!
- he did bad CPR and left Michael to make calls
- he may have made the paramedics carry on CPR when Michael was already dead
- he wouldn't sign the death certificate at the hospital

Until the media cover those issues as well as Murray's versions of events I say scr*w the media! Their reporting on this is so biased towards the doctor. Whether or not Michael had drug problems or not is not the case now, its why the doctor did it and did not do all he could to save Michael's life that day.


Look at this from today....
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/97383/Doc-*****-bullied-me/
and
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/125319/Jackson-to-blame-for-own-death-
There is more than one article like this, not only saying Michael bullied him but... some report what the Doc says as the truth/fact - so out of order! They don't question much of what he did that day though do they!

Why are they siding with the doctor who behaved very strangely that day... why report what he says like its the truth/fact!
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Murray will not do ome day in jail. The entire Media was and is still Michael Jackson's enemy. They are involved. Remember they knew "poor" "sickly" "indebted" "Jackson will never do the concerts" "was dying" "had six months to live".
They are defending Murray in everyway. Compare this to the way the Media and the Police treat Jackson in 1993,2003/ 2005.

The Media is ONE entity; It has many faces and names. NYT NBC FOX AP REUTERS CNN TMZ SONY TIME WARNER CBS ABC/DISNEY ect...
Are really one in the same.

Do not believe me? Watch the network "news" on multiple "networks" they all "report" the same stories and give the same version of events.
This can also be proven with the "major" newspapers and magazines.

Dare To Think

con·spir·a·cy - An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

pro·gram - to set, regulate, or modify so as to produce a specific response or reaction
(As in TV news program)

hom·i·cide - The killing of one person by another.
(Murder by any other name)
 
myfavouritewintercoat said:
Right this is something that is infuriating me personally.

A few weeks ago before it was confirmed homicide, I went downstairs and my brother had the news on they were reporting what Murray told the police in that warrant as 'fact' WHY?

This is what Murray said... its his version of events and the media is all like 'poor debt ridden doctor had to put up with druggie Michael's demands...' Right, whatever Michael's case with drugs was, yes he may have had a problem but... why report the doctor's testament as fact/the truth?? Why not question why some sources say(obviously I can't say its truth as none of us know the truth right now):

- he delayed the 911 call, some say due to no phone line but he made cellphone calls
- some say he didn't know the street address, he drove there everyday!
- he did bad CPR and left Michael to make calls
- he may have made the paramedics carry on CPR when Michael was already dead
- he wouldn't sign the death certificate at the hospital

Until the media cover those issues as well as Murray's versions of events I say scr*w the media! Their reporting on this is so biased towards the doctor. Whether or not Michael had drug problems or not is not the case now, its why the doctor did it and did not do all he could to save Michael's life that day.


Look at this from today....
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/97383/Doc-*****-bullied-me/
and
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/125319/Jackson-to-blame-for-own-death-
There is more than one article like this, not only saying Michael bullied him but... some report what the Doc says as the truth/fact - so out of order! They don't question much of what he did that day though do they!

Why are they siding with the doctor who behaved very strangely that day... why report what he says like its the truth/fact!
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99.9% of what the mainstream media reports about Michael is untrue to quote Michael himself.

I don't listen to these mainstream sources of media on Michael.

Philip Answutz owner of AEG also owns media outlets running stories on MJ. including the examiner.com which has run every story under the sun on MJ from demerol over dose to propofol junkie and even that he had aids. They are currently reporting homicide now like all other mainstream sources. But they imply it is MJ fault as drug addict.

http://www.b12partners.net/wp/2009/09/01/philip-anschutz-is-building-his-own-empire/

http://www.examiner.com/x-8543-SF-H...-Surgical-drug-abuse-in-Michael-Jackson-death
 
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Gaiaschild said:
99.9% of what the mainstream media reports about Michael is untrue to quote Michael himself.

I don't listen to these mainstream sources of media on Michael.

Philip Answutz owner of AEG also owns media outlets running stories on MJ. including the examiner.com which has run every story under the sun on MJ from demerol over dose to propofol junkie and even that he had aids. They are currently reporting homicide now like all other mainstream sources. But they imply it is MJ fault as drug addict.

http://www.b12partners.net/wp/2009/09/01/philip-anschutz-is-building-his-own-empire/

http://www.examiner.com/x-8543-SF-H...-Surgical-drug-abuse-in-Michael-Jackson-death
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thanks for pointing out that he owns those media outlets. More of what he owns is listed on his Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Anschutz

Also note this on his Wikipedia page he owns... Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie theater chain in the world with approximately 6,000 screens. Anschutz owns more than half of the company, which is a collection of former bankrupt chains - So he will benefit from TII movie again as well as $60m from Sony Pictures...?
 
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myfavouritewintercoat said:
thanks for pointing out that he owns those media outlets. More of what he owns is listed on his Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Anschutz

Also note this on his Wikipedia page he owns... Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie theater chain in the world with approximately 6,000 screens. Anschutz owns more than half of the company, which is a collection of former bankrupt chains - So he will benefit from TII movie again as well as $60m from Sony Pictures...?
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Thanks for that, I read somewhere that he also owns casinos.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
its not murder by any other name
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Oh yes it is. You may wish to re-rwrite the Dictionary but other here disagree. Michael Jackson's death was and is a H o m i c i d e.


(1) hom·i·cide - The killing of one person by another.
(Murder by any other name)

(2) hom·i·cide - person who kills another; murderer.

Heard of the term "Homicidal Maniac" ?

Origin:
1325–75; ME < MF < L homicīdium a killing, homicīda killer, equiv. to homi- (comb. form of homō man) + -cīdium, -cīda -cide
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PS

The killing of someone or thing always have the same results as murdering them.

Murder by any other name.
 
Victoria83 said:
Because media are controlled by mega-corporations, some of which have ties to Sony?

Oh, and if there is anyone here who really thinks the Arvizos acted alone, raise your hand?
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NO Arvizo hadn't acted alone. 'people' who behind this trial framed Michael for years and then they needed 'accusers' and they found Arvizo family. Arvizo family stayed in Neverland and lived off on Michael's money happily.
Same goes to Michael's death. It was planned by 'them' and they needed a hit man, and they found this 'doctor' to do the job.
 
AmberR said:
NO Arvizo hadn't acted alone. 'people' who behind this trial framed Michael for years and then they needed 'accusers' and they found Arvizo family. Arvizo family stayed in Neverland and lived off on Michael's money happily.
Same goes to Michael's death. It was planned by 'them' and they needed a hit man, and they found this 'doctor' to do the job.
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I agree with you.
To quote Dick Gregory, again:
"Doctors make the best assassins."
 
Conrad Murray's long, troubled history
August 25, 3:41 AMPopulist ExaminerBruce Maiman
Now that Michael Jackson's death has been ruled a homicide by the LA County Coronor's office (or so the Associated Press has reported), his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray is likely to be charged with murder, probably manslaughter.
It seems convenient, yet incomplete. Dr. Murray, no saint in this matter, is but the last person in a long train of people to whom we could point who are somehow culpable in Michael Jackson's death. Murray, is a sad figure who's life reads like a hard-luck Charlie story. He has a long and troubled history:

--In November 1985, a girlfriend had Murray arrested for fraudulent breach of trust, meaning she accused him of stealing or misusing money or property entrusted to him. The doc, who was a med student in Nashville at the time, posted a $2,000 bond the next day and the case was dismissed that January.
--In June 1992, Murray filed for bankruptcy in the state of California. According to public records, his debt was discharged by the court.
--In February 1993, the state of California placed a lien on Murray for failing to pay $1,578 in state taxes.
--In February 1994, Murray was charged with domestic violence in the state of Arizona (between 1992 and 1995 he took on a cardiology fellowship at the University of Arizona at Tucson). He stood trial in July of that year and was ultimately acquitted of the charge.
--He owes $940 in fines and penalties for driving with an expired license plate and no proof of insurance in 2000.
--In May 2001, the state of California placed a second lien on Murray for failing to pay $19,457 in state taxes. It was released in December 2003.
--In April 2003, the state placed yet another lien on Murray for failing to pay $21,084 in state taxes.
--Also in 2003, Murray was one of several defendants named in a civil lawsuit brought by Canada Life Assurance Co. The suit was eventually settled and dismissed.
--Murray's Nevada medical practice was nailed for more than $400,000 in three different court judgments in 2007 and 2008 and still has two cases pending against him.
--Last December, he was hit with a nearly $3,700 judgment for failure to pay child support in a San Diego case, and had his wages garnished for almost $1,500 in a court judgment won by a credit card company. Another credit card claim for more than $1,100 filed in April of 2009 is pending.
--He owes some $15,000 on his mortgage, which he hasn't paid since December and he could lose the home by November.
--"He still owes more than $13,000 in child support and $70,000 to a business partner with whom he launched an energy drink called Pitbull."
http://www.examiner.com/x-15870-Populist-Examiner~y2009m8d25-Conrad-Murrays-long-troubled-history
 
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