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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

Renan_Antonio said:
This could all go away if the Estate (or the Production company) would just come forward and say if this is true or not. I don't get why they just let this turn into a big mess and let people with weird impressions of the movie.
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So the website will have what he aims for.. Estate/ Production Compagny will talk about the Chandlers.. then it goes over all websites..
 
I don’t believe the day rumors whatsoever. Subjectivity aside, do you seriously mean to tell me that lawyers for Lionsgate and the Estate BOTH didn’t bother to look into the Chandler settlement until recently? When even the fan community has read it and knew there was a media limitation involved? Bullshit.
 
1nn5 said:
So the website will have what he aims for.. Estate/ Production Compagny will talk about the Chandlers.. then it goes over all websites..
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It's already on all other websites. Indiewire, billboard, etc... that's why I don't think it's a good idea to not say anything (if actually fake news).

This isn't Wicked. It's Michael Jackson. A lot of people are gonna try to destroy this movie. They need to prepare for all sorts of stuff like this.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I don’t believe the day rumors whatsoever. Subjectivity aside, do you seriously mean to tell me that lawyers for Lionsgate and the Estate BOTH didn’t bother to look into the Chandler settlement until recently? When even the fan community has read it and knew there was a media limitation involved? Bullshit.
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That’s what I find totally bizarre. When discussing the possibility of a Michael Jackson film and the controversy around it , the allegations would be the biggest red flag about the whole project.

Was there seriously no due diligence? I just don’t believe it.
 
Spidey said:
That would mean relying on the capabilities of Branca, who we all know is inadequate and only out for himself. Cochran negotiated the terms of the settlement and has long-since passed, along with Chandler's father. So it makes sense that the terms fell through the cracks. Remember in the Diane Sawyer interview, MJ himself said his is forbidden to talk about the terms of the agreement and was later sued (unsuccessfully) for the few things that were mentioned. This is 100% true and happening. I doubt it will be released in 2025.
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How do you know this claim is "100% true" if you don't mind me asking?
 
I could see how people are saying that they don't buy this story of the estate not being aware that allegations from 93 were going to featured and dramatized in the family. Because for the longest they have been saying that that was going to be a core element of the movie I feel like with Prince Jackson and Jermaine's son being behind this project it's still going to be done with good taste.
 
Spidey said:
That would mean relying on the capabilities of Branca, who we all know is inadequate and only out for himself. Cochran negotiated the terms of the settlement and has long-since passed, along with Chandler's father. So it makes sense that the terms fell through the cracks. Remember in the Diane Sawyer interview, MJ himself said his is forbidden to talk about the terms of the agreement and was later sued (unsuccessfully) for the few things that were mentioned. This is 100% true and happening. I doubt it will be released in 2025.
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You said you work in the movie business. Just to understand, you are believing this only because of the article or do you have additional sources?
Maybe there will be reshoots for another reason.
 
One thing I will say is that when the release date was postponed, it felt like there was a problem with the production, because the reason given didn't make particular sense.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I don't believe that source first of all.

But in any case, they should do something about undoing the damages caused by this settlement and work to undo it. I think biopic money will give them the push and leverage they need to get Jordie Chandler to speak up, willingly or otherwise in court. Am I missing anything else?
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I still don't believe and it's weird how many people are believing it.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Reshoots happen with most films as well, so the fact that they are happening does not itself give any credence to the claims.
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We know it covers life to death, as Michael's kids are apart of the movie. The family testified against Michael in 2005 during the trial and Jordan has never been seen since the early 2000s where he reportedly defended Michael to various witnesses as a adult. There's no evidence to suggest they would still legally bind Michael under a NDA
 
Let’s just say it was true . You wonder how they would likely tell the 3rd act? By removing allegations completely the film would be a waste of time.

The Chandler story (first allegations that changed everything) needs to be told.

Do they swap the 93 case out for the 2005 trial? And shift the timeline?
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
Let’s just say it was true . You wonder how they would likely tell the 3rd act? By removing allegations completely the film would be a waste of time.

The Chandler story (first allegations that changed everything) needs to be told.

Do they swap the 93 case out for the 2005 trial? And shift the timeline?
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No, it's already covering the 2005 trial and This is It too apparently, people quoted the producer saying that it will show This is It.
 
IhateTheMedia said:
No, it's already covering the 2005 trial and This is It too apparently, people quoted the producer saying that it will show This is It.
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I’m still not convinced everything will be covered based on the fact this is one movie. I think there’s simply too much story to cover but we shall see!
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
I’m still not convinced everything will be covered based on the fact this is one movie. I think there’s simply too much story to cover but we shall see!
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It will be 3 hours and they can just streamline the 2000s until Invincible, the backlash from the documentary airing, the trial and then This is It
 
www.showbiz411.com

Michael Jackson Biopic Will Get Re-shoots This Spring, But They Were Already Planned - Showbiz411

The very estimable Matthew Belloni has a story today in his Puck newsletter about the Michael Jackson biopic. The movie, he says, has to re-shoot its third act. That is true, I’ve confirmed. But it’s a little more complicated than that. A few months ago, “Michael” was moved to fall 2025 from the...
www.showbiz411.com www.showbiz411.com

Ok, I don’t know what to feel anymore… so the movie would end before the allegations? That sounds weird and leaving 1/3 of MJ’s life out of it just seems avoiding what happened to him.
 
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middle of the road biopic ending before even a hint of the first allegations is suicide. That Friedman article is even worse and makes it sound like An American Dream extended version , how boring.

I remember when he was among the worst MJ haters and would be constantly writing negative things about Michael….it’s weird seeing him almost pro MJ these days
 
Renan_Antonio said:
www.showbiz411.com

Michael Jackson Biopic Will Get Re-shoots This Spring, But They Were Already Planned - Showbiz411

The very estimable Matthew Belloni has a story today in his Puck newsletter about the Michael Jackson biopic. The movie, he says, has to re-shoot its third act. That is true, I’ve confirmed. But it’s a little more complicated than that. A few months ago, “Michael” was moved to fall 2025 from the...
www.showbiz411.com www.showbiz411.com

Ok, I don’t know what to feel anymore… so the movie would end before the allegations? That sounds weird and leaving 1/3 of MJ’s life out of it just seems avoiding what happened to him.
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This is total BS and i don't trust that source Friedman.
 
ChanceToDance said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1882702386369556957
"The third act of the Michael Jackson biopic has been scrapped & will have to be reshot due to a legal issue. The third act focused on 1993 investigation into Jordan Chandler’s claim that Michael Jackson sexually abused him at 13 years old. Jackson’s estate forgot they signed a deal with the Chandler family years ago to never include them in any sort of movie, rendering the third act pretty much unusable." (Source: https://puck.news/newsletter_conten...kson-shocker-oscar-stakes-netflixs-blowout-3/)
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I personally doubt all of this is true, since Evan Chandler killed himself the same year that Michael passed, and Jordan's mother June had been married to a man named Dave Schwartz even before they met Michael. As for Jordan himself, he said for many years that Michael never touched him, and he was so hurt by both his parents' roles in the scandal that he emancipated himself from them. During the 2005 trial, Jordan released a statement saying that he'd legally fight any attempt that forced him to testify against Michael, and lead defense attorney Tom Mesereau also said he had witnesses who knew Jordan, that were prepared to co-operate if Jordan wound up telling his story. After his father's death, Jordan pretty much disappeared, to the point that his mother and sister couldn't even reach him. Accusatory director Dan Reed also tried tracking him down to support Wade Robson & James Safechuck's allegations, with no such luck. So if anyone is behind this new lawsuit, I'd have to imagine it would be June or Dave Schwartz - they're the only ones with a motive.
 
If there's any truth to the Showbiz411 article, will be ultimately disappointed if the allegations aren't covered: would just be another watered down biopic akin to "Bohemian Rhapsody". I enjoyed that film as an experience (I'm sure "Michael" will also be a fun time singing and dancing to all the songs in the theater), but, similarly to the MJ musical, I feel I'll leave the theater disappointed that the audience didn't see who he truly was beyond the entertainer.

It's all well and good if they infer his love for helping children and child-like things through prank scenes, charity, origins and true purpose of Neverland and the like, but you can't show that without his reaction to the subsequent attacks to his core, and ultimate survival and resilience. He made it very clear during his life that his very core was helping children, and not seeing his reaction (drug rehab, HIStory album, etc.) to the allegations won't drive home his full story for a casual audience, at least not in my eyes. Tired of seeing Michael as a caricature.
 
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Music biopics are product now, and nothing more. They’re not art and they’re not thought-provoking. They are designed to make money off casual fans of an artist by playing up nostalgia and movie tropes. The last thing they want to do is make normies unconfortable by being original, innovative or unconventional.

The only value in this project, to me, is if somehow it leads to the release of even one new song.
 
I guess I had higher expectations with this one because they explicitly said they’d cover the allegations when asked.

To what extent, we’ll see, especially at this point.
 
Hot_Street said:
If the film ends before the accusations, it could give the impression that something was being hidden.
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Exactly!

Do we just forget everything else and pretend it didn’t exist? Sure we will get the eccentricities, plastic surgery, vitiligo, abuse by Joe but it’s the allegations that had the biggest negative impact on his life and ruined his image and made him into a laughing stock (at times)

The audience needs to see how much he suffered mentally and the reasons otherwise it will just be another hollow story.

My hopes for the biopic have taken a massive nose dive as I really thought we would get something different from the other vanilla biopics and would really let the audience understand who he was and the shit he had to go through.

Still hope it’s all just BS
 
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