Of course. It's an opportunity for them to profit and make some more money, and they did not do all that work converting it into 3D only for it to be watched for a limited time by a limited amount of viewers.I really hope they do release this at some point - but it seems like a waste of money if they don't.
Of course. It's an opportunity for them to profit and make some more money, and they did not do all that work converting it into 3D only for it to be watched for a limited time by a limited amount of viewers.
Well technically they have no choice but to start from scratch so far as cgiI never thought of that. yes the short films need to be updated but they don't need to be remade. this is history (no pun). if they do that then they really trying ruin michael as a whole.
They wouldn't recreate Spike with cgi and I don't think they should. That video would be easy to release in HD because it doesn't have cgi. It will look like it does in Moonwalker Blu-Ray. Same with Leave Me Alone.Its stupid of them not to have already released it but imo i think the pressure would be on them heavy about the continuation of the rest of the short films. I cant wait to see remember the time with new cgi, speed demon with a recreated spike thats more digital than claymation & leave me alone with updated (definitely not the moonwalker version)
In my opinion it would be a bad idea to remake some of michael short films. just make them HD. this is 40 years of hard work and don't need someone who's not michael ruining and the history by it.
and the fact Michael was black.
In my opinion it would be a bad idea to remake some of michael short films. just make them HD. this is 40 years of hard work and don't need someone who's not michael ruining and the history by it.
and the fact Michael was black.
In this case, it is more about respect for the artist. How would it look bad for Michael’s race and “lies”?NatureCriminal7896;4303940 said:What i mean by Michael was black because if you look in the past alot black artists and people was sellout due to their talents etc. i'm pretty sure there's alot good stuff out there that has been destroy or remade due to the racism at the time and still is. while michael isn't the only black artist who was talented he deserve to have good quality stuff to show his race culture and being a black artist as whole.
i think you get what i'm saying. making michael look bad for his race and lies. also i'm not saying if someone was black could updated michael work. the fact there's only one michael.
leave me alone and speed demon was all made with some claymation. that's what michael wanted. if they change that it won't really be like michael wanted and made it.
now if they have to updated i hope they don't change too much because what was just been said 1987 animation with 2020 animation probably won't look right and the fact it was claymation.
maybe someone could do it. but right now i don't think that's a good idea.
NatureCriminal7896;4303926 said:In my opinion it would be a bad idea to remake some of michael short films. just make them HD. this is 40 years of hard work and don't need someone who's not michael ruining and the history by it.
This is EXACTLY what I meant. & because of the outdated claymation...im sure spike would be like toy story 4 animation & the leave me alone graphics....(well im not too sure about that 1. The filming process on that looks like it shouldve took years. No computers whatsoever) but remember the time gold & sand new cgi with the exact same effects but in higher resolution & jam definitely could use a clean up! Im curious to know how stranger in moscow & scream would look in 4k with the reels being that they're in black & white. I always felt scream is way too bright! & I'm not sure how they would apply the rain but im sure they have the negatives of Michael in the blue screen! Black or white painting when he's on the statue of liberty is cgi as well (very impressive btw. Whenever I see the statue of liberty I instantly think of Michael, being that he introduced me to it. Lol I saw black or white 1st before I saw the real deal). I think they could add the rain in dirty diana that was supposed to be there before Michael messed up his knees. Not sure how yana graphics will be but 1 thing for sure, that & who is it...its definitely too soft....blurry like. I understand ecasanova later on but i mean the beginning. Ithink blame it on the boogie & was shot on tape. Not sure about Can You Feel It either. Childhood is actually perfect. Just needs to be 16:9. Earth song....dont really remember any cgi, just alot of reversing. & give into me with updated lightning & new lighting.ScreenOrigami;4303942 said:People aren’t talking about remaking the whole films, but the so-called CGI parts of them.
This has to be done for technical reasons.
CGI means “Computer Generated Imagery”
CGI is added to the film after filming, during “post-production”.
If you take such a film today and scan it in higher resolution, the CGI parts would not look realistic anymore, because the were created for a much lower resolution.
This is why they would have to be recreated.
An example is the scene in “Remember the Time” where Michael first appears from the golden sand.
This computer effect would have to be recreated, so that it looks good in high resolution.
Older videos were edited on videotape, especially ones from the 1980s. I don't know about the 1990s, probably were in the early 1990s for sure. So any special effects would have to be done over. Here's the Missionary Man video by Eurythmics in 4K. They only scanned the non-effects parts of the video (which was shot on film) in 4K. The portions with effects are straight from videotape. You can easily tell the difference in the sources. It was probably too expensive and time consuming to try to do the effects over, so they didn't bother.
In the case of claymation, stop motion, & older 2D cartoons, that's usually done in camera. It's pretty much someone taking individual photos of the clay models or drawings. It's not effects added later like the Missionary Man video. So something like Speed Demon shouldn't have to be done over. There's a 4K version of Peter Gabriel's Sledehammer and that has claymation/stop motion, but they cropped it into widescreen though.
Speed Demon might have to be re-edited though, but that's not as much as a problem as creating effects from scratch. They did that with the 1960s Star Trek show, put new effects in. But Star Trek has a big enough audience that will buy it to justify the expense. Music video compilations don't really have the same demand. You can watch music videos for free on Youtube.
They wouldn't have to re-edit Speed Demon. Its already HD in Moonwalker Blu-Ray and it looks great.
DuranDuran;4304067 said:Star Trek has a big enough audience that will buy it to justify the expense. Music video compilations don't really have the same demand. You can watch music videos for free on Youtube.
This for me is ultimate proof that the people in charge are absolutely clueless.
Why this isn't on Youtube is absolutely beyond me.
It only seems to be the artists most popular videos and/or songs that are converted into 4K such as Take On Me by A-Ha, not all of their videos. Otherwise what would be the point of making a 4K version of a video like Wham!'s Last Christmas. I wouldn't say that video was really a big deal like Take On Me or Sledgehammer.ScreenOrigami;4304083 said:New generations of potential fans will become more and more used to high quality videos, so a well restored version will certainly get more views than the trusty old 480p. As more and more artists old and new release their videos in high quality, they’re drowning out MJ’s material, simply because it’s not as eye-catching at first glance to a casual YouTube rabbit-hole visitor. I think we have to look at videos on YouTube as advertisement for the artist, so when the Estate does a money-making project like “MJ the Musical”, the public’s appetite is already whetted. It’s about staying relevant on those video platforms more than anything else.
They just need to remaster them right. I hope Thriller still has film grain when it gets released on Blu-Ray. Film grain shouldn't be removed when restoring film. Usually details are gone if too much digital noise reduction is used. They should also include the original audio.I think Michael's videos should be left in their original form. I find that whenever they're remastered, his dancing is slowed down and softened. that dynamic spark gets lost. 'thriller' was supposed to be dark and gritty. it looks glossy in 3d. also, the sound effects that accompany the movement were perfectly in sync in the original. that's gone in what I've seen of the 3d remake.
the sound effects that accompany the movement were perfectly in sync in the original. that's gone in what I've seen of the 3d remake.
They just need to remaster them right. I hope Thriller still has film grain when it gets released on Blu-Ray. Film grain shouldn't be removed when restoring film. Usually details are gone if too much digital noise reduction is used. They should also include the original audio.
