StellaJackson
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1 - None of the lyrics you mentioned are anything like the standard of material that Michael wrote, either as a sole writer or co-writer. They seem more like pale imitations made as an attempt to come across as the kind of material Michael would write. I really don't think Michael would write a song where he would refer to himself repeatedly in the first person. It just wasn't his style. Compare the simplistic and frankly immature lyrics of Breaking News with the in depth creative brilliance of Tabloid Junkie, a real song co-written by Michael. If you think Keep Your Head Up is typical of the type of lyric Michael would write, then you clearly haven't been much of a student of Michael's compositions. His lyrics actually made sense, as opposed to sounding like something entered in a high school song writing contest. And yes Michael is credited as co-writer on most of the tracks on Invincible. So what? I'm afraid we don't "all know what that means". Do you have some personal insight from the Invincible writing sessions that has some significance in this matter? I think not. Oh, and Neff-U had no involvement whatsoever with Keep Your Head Up. I think you need to check your facts better.
2 - We know, based on Michael's movements at the time, information from Raymone Bain and from video and pictures taken at various events that Michael arrived at the Cascio house in late August and left at the very beginning of November, in time for Jesse Jackson's birthday party in LA. Minus the time he spent in New York and you are left with 9 weeks. I demonstrated all this months ago using a wealth of evidence to back it up, such as photos of Michael posing with the cast of the Broadway production of The Lion King during the time he was supposed to be at the Cascios. All this information is many pages back in this thread. There is no conspiracy here. That's just the facts as proven. Michael spent 9 weeks in total at the Cascios in 2007. This actually far better supports the unlikelihood of Michael recording so much material in such a short space of time. Regardless, the amount of time Michael stayed there is ultimately irrelevant anyway. The songs and the evidence speaks for itself. There is simply no evidence that Michael recorded these songs.
3 - This is a very hypocritical point to make. No I didn't know Michael's personal reasons for being there at the time, but likewise neither do you, so what makes you think that your belief that Michael recorded these songs there has any more weight? Having followed every step of his career and persona for two decades, I can comfortably say that recording an entire album in such a short space of time with amateur producers was indeed uncharacteristic and unlikely. If you want to take the word of Eddie Cascio, who pocketed a fortune from these songs and doesn't give a damn about the damage they've done after the fact then that's up to you. You think there is nothing in their history that indicates fraudulent behaviour? There is. They are known as the Cascio tracks. And let's not forget Frank Cascio writing a book for profit where he details aspects of Michael's private life that we all know he would rather have kept private.
And yes, we know you have to keep on about how Michael was a complete loser at that time according to you but these type of insults only thinly veil the fact that you are unable to address any of the issues with the songs, from the vocal characteristics that do not match Michael but match Jason Cupeta such as the vibrato, pronounciation, same snorts, accent, poorer singing technique etc to the lack of any MJ habits anywhere in the tracks such as finger snaps, claps, headphone bleeding, all of which are completely absent from the lead vocal channel. Or the total lack of any supporting evidence that Michael recorded these songs - no notes, no out takes, nothing with his voice on asking for another take etc. The poor excuses such as he recorded through a pvc pipe, he was sick, he wanted to try a new voice, melodyne according to Teddy Riley (proven to be a lie based on the original demos), the lack of any Cascio titles on a fairly extensive list of tracks that Michael intended to complete at the time of his death, the fact that it took almost a year after his death for the existence of the songs to be known to anyone, including his own children who were there at the time, the fact that he ordered all takes destroyed because he was so happy with them but then on the other hand he was going to finish them in London. Well which is it Eddie? You make out that recording substandard songs with amateurs was the only work Michael could get at that time. You seem to forget that in the months preceeding his stay at the Cascios, and in the months after, he was recording with uber artists and producers like Will.I.Am and Akon. And guess what? In Hold My Hand, recorded less than a year from the Cascio tracks, he actually sounds like himself. Unbelievable!
And finally, I know you hate Invincible - I've seen your comments on other forums about it, but this is actually quite funny because you clearly don't realise that a considerable amount of material from that album was used to construct these tracks - specifically the adlibs and MJ phrases that Jason couldn't pull off. And as for Monster, you do realise that the version on "Michael" is nothing like the version that Eddie Cascio submitted right? So even if the song were real it doesn't represent anything that Michael did. Musically and production wise Teddy Riley completely changed it.
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