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Michael's fans have caught the media's attention.

TheChosenOne said:
We have had the experience in the past where the media outlets have been very selective about what they are willing to highlight about a particular story. This is not just the case with Michael but with other celebrities as well.

We have no guarantee that the slant we want will be focussed on. And considering the nature and content of this particular article, we have even less guarantee. So what will we end up with? - more negative coverage of Michael! Long and short.
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Sadly, I really have to admit to agreeing with what you've said.
 
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Ejacobs29 said:
Due to efforts from MJ fans around the world, DA Steve Cooley And AG Jerry Brown have been feeling the heat. Will we cause them the election?

Please click the link and look under the just fans tab:
http://www.facebook.com/jerrybrown?ref=ts

WE FINALLY ARE GETTING MEDIA ATTENTION FOR OUR EFFORT

When I read this hideous article I wanted to b***** slap and kiss this guy all at the same time. I am not sure anyone one realizes how huge this is...I know it was hard to get past the horrid things the the author said about MJ but we need to be celebrating the point of the article!!

Michael Jackson fans may cause Jerry Brown the election! This is the political pressure we have been talking about. This why I have been asking everyone to apply pressure Steve Cooley's People had to close down his wall and now AG Jerry Brown is next.

They are feeling it people!! Do you know what this means? We could cause two powerful law enforcement officials to lose these elections. Do you understand the power behind this? We are getting a voice. We need the media to pick up on this story and we need it now.

I am going to ask you to put whatever your doing aside for the next day or two and GO TO Attorney General Jerry Brown's face book page, his twitter his email and be relentless. People are seeing what we are doing....if main stream media picks up on this and we are able to ruin the career of people who thought Michael Jackson wasn't worth it and justice for him meant nothing...well guess they made a bad, bad, decision.

People will think twice before messing with Michael because they will know we are just lurking around the corner. Pop the champagne AND DON'T MESS WITH MICHAEL SOLDIERS OF LOVE!!
http://www.examiner.com/x-30407-LA-...y2010m3d16-Will-Waco-*****-derail-Jerry-Brown

AP, CNN, FOX, TMZ, RADAR and more have been sent the story. We apply pressure now!!

http://www.facebook.com/#!/jerrybrown?ref=ts We are asking the Governor to investigate DA Cooley for filing inappropriate charges in the Death Of Michael Jackson!
We want murder 2. The evidence supports it!

www.justice4MJ.com
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Could someone post the article? When I click the link ..it tells me that the 'article is not ready. :yes:
 
Please read an reply
for some reason these actions by fans really worry me :(

I agree with Tom Mez
he feels it my be dangerous to up the charges
he feels a jury will not convict under 2nd degree
I TRUST Tom Mesereau opinion on this more that I do Brian Oxmoron

Listen to Tom Mesereau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQScpYtjg0




What will fans say about their efforts
if Murray is pronounced NOT guilty by the Jury on 2nd degree
becuase the prosecution does NOT have enough evidence to
prove 2nd degree beyond a reasonable doubt - remeber they can
NOT use rumours, conspiracy theories or gossip as evidence in this
case .. it will be thrown out

Tom Mesereau feels the charges of Manslaughter made will at least get
a Guitly verdict for Murrray.

The DA has thier reasons for the charge they chose
they want a conviction - they dont want Murray to walk free
they know what they have as far as evidence to prove thier case

Fans could be sabbotaging the efforts of the DA
to get a GUILTY verdict_ for Murrray

please reply as to your thoughts about this
have you considered your actions many backfire???

You cant NOT blaim the jury
If they dont have enough SOLID evidence to convict Murray
it will fall back on the Fans actions if this blows up in our faces

Please carefully think this over
 
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qbee said:
Please read an reply
for some reason these actions by fans really worry me :(

I agree with Tom Mez
he feels it my be dangerous to up the charges
he feels a jury will not convict under 2nd degree
I TRUST Tom Mesereau opinion on this more that I do Brian Oxmoron

Listen to Tom Mesereau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQScpYtjg0




What will fans say about their efforts
if Murray is pronounced NOT guilty by the Jury on 2nd degree
becuase the prosecution does NOT have enough evidence to
prove 2nd degree beyond a reasonable doubt - remeber they can
NOT use rumours, conspiracy theories or gossip as evidence in this
case .. it will be thrown out

Tom Mesereau feels the charges of Manslaughter made will at least get
a Guitly verdict for Murrray.

The DA has thier reasons for the charge they chose
they want a conviction - they dont want Murray to walk free
they know what they have as far as evidence to prove thier case

Fans could be sabbotaging the efforts of the DA
to get a GUILTY verdict_ for Murrray

please reply as to your thoughts about this
have you considered your actions many backfire???

You cant NOT blaim the jury
If they dont have enough SOLID evidence to convict Murray
it will fall back on the Fans actions if this blows up in our faces

Please carefully think this over
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yep. that's what they're hoping...that it falls back on the fans, and that it is their fault.
 
qbee said:
Please read an reply
for some reason these actions by fans really worry me :(

I agree with Tom Mez
he feels it my be dangerous to up the charges
he feels a jury will not convict under 2nd degree
I TRUST Tom Mesereau opinion on this more that I do Brian Oxmoron

Listen to Tom Mesereau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQScpYtjg0




What will fans say about their efforts
if Murray is pronounced NOT guilty by the Jury on 2nd degree
becuase the prosecution does NOT have enough evidence to
prove 2nd degree beyond a reasonable doubt - remeber they can
NOT use rumours, conspiracy theories or gossip as evidence in this
case .. it will be thrown out

Tom Mesereau feels the charges of Manslaughter made will at least get
a Guitly verdict for Murrray.

The DA has thier reasons for the charge they chose
they want a conviction - they dont want Murray to walk free
they know what they have as far as evidence to prove thier case

Fans could be sabbotaging the efforts of the DA
to get a GUILTY verdict_ for Murrray

please reply as to your thoughts about this
have you considered your actions many backfire???

You cant NOT blaim the jury
If they dont have enough SOLID evidence to convict Murray
it will fall back on the Fans actions if this blows up in our faces

Please carefully think this over
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I agree with this. The case has to be strong against Murray. Tom knows what he's talking about and he, as much as we do, wants to see Murray convicted.
 
vncwilliam said:
yep. that's what they're hoping...that it falls back on the fans, and that it is their fault.
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Hey Vince _ Thats what who is hoping ??
Not the DA they dont want to change the charges

Who is manipulating the fans to do this
and wants this this to fall back on them ?

Im not sure I understand your comment.
 
qbee said:
Hey Vince _ Thats what who is hoping ??
Not the DA they dont want to change the charges

Who is manipulating the fans to do this
and wants this this to fall back on them ?

Im not sure I understand your comment.
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Good question(s), I'm not understanding the logic either, no offense to anyone.
 
Did Tom Mez say overcharging. We don't want to over charge Robert Conrad Murray for Murdering Michael Jackson? I do not judge anyone who thinks this was an accident.. for this is exactly what the DA thinks too. I my opinion, I feel the evidence supports much more than that..if you only took the CPR on the bed, alone that proves Murray was not even trying to resuscitate Michael. He either didn't want him alive or he knew he was long gone. I know one thing for sure..if I accidentally overdosed Michael Jackson and security tapes could prove my story I would have made sure the police had them, rather than stealing them before I called 911.

Hey, what do I know, I just think if they don't start making examples out of these drug dealing doctors now and in this case we will see many more die.

Will everyone be happy when the DA gets a conviction and Murray get's probation, Or will everyone be mad as hell? It will be to late to complain then, because you'll have your conviction.

justice4mj.com
 
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qbee said:
Please read an reply
for some reason these actions by fans really worry me :(

I agree with Tom Mez
he feels it my be dangerous to up the charges
he feels a jury will not convict under 2nd degree
I TRUST Tom Mesereau opinion on this more that I do Brian Oxmoron

Listen to Tom Mesereau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQScpYtjg0




What will fans say about their efforts
if Murray is pronounced NOT guilty by the Jury on 2nd degree
becuase the prosecution does NOT have enough evidence to
prove 2nd degree beyond a reasonable doubt - remeber they can
NOT use rumours, conspiracy theories or gossip as evidence in this
case .. it will be thrown out

Tom Mesereau feels the charges of Manslaughter made will at least get
a Guitly verdict for Murrray.

The DA has thier reasons for the charge they chose
they want a conviction - they dont want Murray to walk free
they know what they have as far as evidence to prove thier case

Fans could be sabbotaging the efforts of the DA
to get a GUILTY verdict_ for Murrray

please reply as to your thoughts about this
have you considered your actions many backfire???

You cant NOT blaim the jury
If they dont have enough SOLID evidence to convict Murray
it will fall back on the Fans actions if this blows up in our faces

Please carefully think this over
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As much as I want to see Murray convicted on a more serious charge. There is truth to this. They should go with something they know will get a conviction. Because if they go with murder and they can't convince the jury to give a guilty verdict, then he walks and he can never be recharged for this crime. If he is convicted of manslaughter then fans can petition for the most severe penalty possible for that crime. But I would hate to see him not get any conviction at all. I realize this is a very sensitive topic and that we all have various opinions. But my biggest fear is that he will not be convicted of anything at all.
 
I havn't read the article and I am not going to, from what some have said I can take a guess.

I think we have to be very careful, I applaud the effort to be heard and demand justice for Michael, but we need to think with our heads not our emotions.

For a start is pressure from us going to be productive, is the DA going to announce that due to pressure he is going to change the charges? of course not. And as Tom Mesereau said murder 2 is much harder to prove and could end in an aquittal, if that happens Murrey gets away with no penalty from a court and worse, it would possibly cost the estate a civil case.

If he is found guilty of manslaughter and I think he probably will be then ok even the maximum sentence is dispropotionate to what he did and the pain it caused, not least to the Jackson family, but they will then have an almost guaranteed win in a civil case, which means that Murrey will only be allowed to keep as much money as a judge believes he can live on, he would probably loose his licence, and his greed that cost Michael his life will never be satisfied.

By all means make the media aware that these two will never get voted for by Jackson fans, and Jerry Brown is all talk, in the three years since he came out ranting about the Anna Nicol case nothing has changed.

I think a campaign for Michael's Law, which recognises that when doctors behave in a manner that kills their patient because of wreckless prescribing, and especially when that involves administering the fatal drug(s), as opposed to the patient themselves doing it as poor Anna Nicol did, the courts should be able to apply a substantial jail term over and above that of other forms of manslaughter. On the basis that doctors abuse the trust of their patients and their hypocratic oath, and are trained, experienced and qualified. I am not talking about incompetence, this is for a doctor who actually administers an innappropriate drug, where they can reasonably be expected to know the risk and their patient dies.

Brown has done nothing to address this and he is just all talk for the TV cameras.
 
Something needs to be done about these doctors. In the UK there was the Harold Shipman case a few years ago and the main reason why it took so long to convict him was because he was a doctor and people just can't fathom that doctors aren't all roses and sunshine. Some of them are just driven by greed. Too many people are dying of prescription drugs and these doctors are just drug dealers with a medical license. Quacks like Murray need to realise that they cannot do these type of things with their patients. Money must never, ever come first and he belongs in prison for what he did.
 
These Doctors are no better that the average street drug dealer. When is the day going to come that, we start seeing the money is more important to them the the oath they swore to take?

Our cries for justice will most likely go unheard anyway. Law enforcement always had it out for MJ, They finally will have the last laugh.
 
I want to keep an open mind about this case. As Mez said, "he is not investigating the case", so he it's safe to say he doesn't have all the answeres.
There is a lot of speculation swirling around it and we as fans don't have all the answers. However, Murray's behavior's following Michael death are very suspicious. I just don't know...the DA, LAPD, DEA are very tight lipped right now and I am sure they are aware of our behavior as well, such as reading all the fan site boards. In fact, they may have assigned individuals just for this purpose. But my intuition is something is up, what? I don't really know, we don't really know cause we are not part of their investigatory project.

We have to wait and see unfortuntetly. In the mean time Michael's children are suffering their loss as is the entire Jackson family, and US!

That is my opinion of course. :angel:
 
If I'm not mistaken, this T-Mez interview was before the last official authopsy report, right?

The last official report list the drugs and amount that was administered, right?

Also says that NO emergency equipment was set-up in the room, right?

Does this look like INvolontary manslaughter to you?:no:

Murray volontairely did NOT take every precaution known to his profession to insure his patient safety.

We and the jury don't need to be rocket scientists to figure this one out.:doh:
 
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