MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF lost the Appeal

Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Wonder what % the judge is on for lawyers fees if he keeps dragging this out. naive or stupid??

It's easy to claim both. but on the other hand, it could be that the appeals are just giving her enough rope to hang herself. i..e at some point she will run out of excuses, in which case the appeals will probably show her the middle finger and say cheers.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

As the appeal is the last chance, they are giving her enough chance to bring her case in front of the court. Court clerk has given her 2 extensions, this one went to the appellate commissioner. they are making this by the book. They wouldn't want to act too quick and then later get this turned back by the supreme court.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

so is this really the actual last chance??? or can a judge randomly say 'here im feeling lienient have another extention despite what was previously said'?? i mean we've previously had 'extention is disfavoured' which didnt seem to make much difference to it being granted anyway.

Any idea of what is defined as an exceptional circumstance?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Oh this court is making me dizzy, and when will this woman take the court's decisions seriously.
 
Hell froze over. HTWF has just filed their 70 page opening brief.

Summary as follows

- HTWF's one of the most interesting arguments are that HTWF's lawyer Pease has committed fraud, Pease had conflict of interest

- HTWF also blames the district court for not following the trial schedule, not giving HTWF enough time to respond and not allowing Melissa to file on her behalf. They even allege that the court accepting and granting many of Estate's requests shows a favoritism of the Estate or courts desire to close the case.

- HTWF says Estate released false statement saying Melissa had no connection to Michael but actually she a had an ongoing relationship with Michael's managers for a decade.

Now the somewhat interesting parts :

- Melissa claims one night before the trial is supposed to start her lawyer Pease calls her about the settlement. Pease says her that the documents aren't final and binding. Melissa says she did not agree with the terms but she says Pease told her that these terms could be negotiated over the next 30 -45 days. Melissa says Pease told her that signing the documents will also give them a continuance in the trial and Pease wasn't ready for trial.

- Melissa says she also later on saw that Pease's fees would be paid by MJ Estate according to the agreement which Pease hasn't told her before.

- Melissa says she signed the documents based on these explanations thinking they are not binding and they are needed for a continuance. After a while when the Estate complains that they aren't doing what they are supposed to do according to the agreement, Melissa says she called Pease and this time Pease told her that the document she signed was final and binding.

- Melissa also says that her new counsel (the one after Pease) had found out that Pease has submitted an inflated bill to the Estate. Melissa says one month before signing the settlement Pease had sent her an invoice for his fees totaling $94,860 for 316.2 hours at $300 per hour rate. Pease however sent an invoice to MJ Estate first for $612,233 and then a corrected invoice for $638, 356 for 1224 hours at $500 per hour rate. (Ivy's note: Document says Pease was averaging 2.59 hours a day for the first 122 days and then for the last 90 days he billed 9.98 hours a day. HTWF doesn't believe this increase is normal but as the trial dates comes closer the lawyers will be working on the case a lot more)

- Melissa also claims this 4 times the actual fees and costs raises bribery concerns - but we know from other documents that Estate did not pay the fees. But overall the document states that Pease was in need of money and betrayed HTWF for money. They claim as Pease wanted to be paid by the Estate, this brought impairment to his judgment, mislead Melissa.

- We learn that after Melissa opposed to the judgment stating it included her and her assets personally, the court have made an addition to the judgment stating "all references to Melissa in this judgment pertain to her as an agent of HTWF and not to her personal capacity". They aren't happy with this as the order still affects her personal property (Ivy's note : A few trademarks are registered under her name and not HTWF)

- We learn that the judge also ordered Melissa to undo the merger she did with Michael's 1991 HTWF and her 2008 HTWF. Also ordered her 2008 HTWF to be either closed or renamed or make no reference to Michael Jackson. Judge also gave MJ Estate the right to be "attorney in fact" of HTWF and sign the necessary documents for Melissa and HTWF's behalf if Melissa refuses to sign them.

Some interesting tidbits.

Here you can see that they are admitting that Melissa has started her HTWF in 2008 and 1991 MJ's HTWF was a different entity. Some people have been claiming the merged HTWF showed that Melissa had been associated with HTWF since 1991. She wasn't.

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Here they are mixing up their stories and claiming Melissa was president of HTWF in 2002 & 2003

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I guess Melissa "the President of HTWF" did not get the memo that HTWF wasn't even active in 2002 and had no president. Not everyone can time travel to the past and become a president to a suspended organization and leave no paperwork trail.

"In late 2002, however, it had net assets of just $3,542 and reported $2,585 in expenses, mostly for “management fees,” according to the latest available tax filings.

As of late 2002, the foundation did not have a director, president or other top manager besides Jackson, who was listed as chairman, records show.

The foundation has been suspended in California since April 2002 for failing to file annual statements required of tax-exempt organizations, said John Barrett, spokesman for the state Franchise Tax Board."


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4601265/s...oundation-now-virtually-defunct/#.UShV5aWG2So
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Do we know if the estate paid the bill to Pease? And if Melissa believe's her lawyers did not act in her best interests, has she put in a complaint to the powers that be?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

thanks ivy
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

:scratch:

I'm confused? Why Pease sent billing to the estate, and did the estate pay it?

By looking at those billings, I wonder how the hell she could afford to pay, not to mention she has had at least 3 lawyers, and all of them charges about the same?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

The fees were obviously part of the settlement, as negotiated by Pease I guess. Melissa is saying Pease inflated his fees invoice to the estate and is accusing him of not acting in her best interests and I guess fraud. Hence why I ask if she has done anything about that as they are very strong statements.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Hell must be freezing over indeed.

Anyways, everything Melissa Johnson says is a pack of lies that will be debunked by the Estate one by one. Eventually her so-called appeal will be dismissed with prejudice.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

I think it's apparent now that the settlement included that
- Melissa will transfer the trademarks and her HTWF to Estate
- Estate will revive Michael's HTWF
- Melissa will get a chair at new HTWF
- Estate will pay Melissa's costs and legal fees (Pease)

Pease was brought in and initially paid by Howard Mann. Now Melissa claims Pease has billed her over $94,000 and said to her he needed the money to keep his business running. Her argument is that Pease had an interest in the settlement because he knew the Estate would pay his fees so Melissa says he pushed her to sign the settlement with misinformation and then sent an inflated bill to MJ Estate.

Also as I mentioned Estate did not pay Pease's fees. In the previous documents before the appeal both sides were arguing who first breached the settlement. Melissa's then lawyer claimed Estate breached the settlement because they didn't pay the expenses, Estate replied by saying they didn't pay because the expenses submitted was inflated.

This is what I posted way back in October 2011

We also learn a little more about the settlement. Like I predicted (if you remember it), it turns out that Melissa was given monetary compensation for settlement.

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As you can see MJ Estate had offered to pay all the expenses Melissa had per settlement.


In another document filed by HTWF we learn that Estate didn't pay the expenses because they believed the numbers they were submitted was inflated.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Her argument is that Pease had an interest in the settlement because he knew the Estate would pay his fees so Melissa says he pushed her to sign the settlement with misinformation and then sent an inflated bill to MJ Estate.

Wasn't Pease guaranteed of payment in any cases. Does it matter whether the bills are paid by the Estate or Howard Mann himself?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Estate will pay Melissa's costs and legal fees (Pease)
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is this normal? seems the estate have no problem handing out mjs money for other ppls legal fees. even ones they are sueing!
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Estate will pay Melissa's costs and legal fees (Pease)
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is this normal? seems the estate have no problem handing out mjs money for other ppls legal fees. even ones they are sueing!

if that's what it takes to resolve cases then so be it. as long as these shady people get lost for good then no problem at all.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Wasn't Pease guaranteed of payment in any cases. Does it matter whether the bills are paid by the Estate or Howard Mann himself?

I'm not sure if Howard Mann was still paying the bills. He had brought in Pease, paid Melissa's previous legal costs and had given Pease the initial retainer payment.

I think what HTWF are missing out realizing is that Pease wasn't ready for the trial, they didn't have a case at all so a settlement with a guaranteed financial compensation was a really good alternative for everyone involved.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

I hope the estate is not trying to revive Michael's HTWF, it is tailed now by Melissa J.
I hope even more if they do revive it, Melissa J has absolutely nothing to do with it.
I couldn't give a penny to any organisation if MJ is working for them.:puke:

I agree with elusive about the estate handing out MJ's money.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Here's the proof that Estate did not pay any money.This actually comes from a October 2011 filing by Melissa's lawyers and they say Estate (plaintiffs) are equally guilty in regards of not following the settlement as they absolutely refuse to pay the expenses including the legal expenses.

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Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

I find Melissa Johnson accusations rather funny. Originally she was claiming that the Estate was equally in a breach of contract because the Estate refused to pay the legal fees as stipulated in the settlement. now she's accusing her own lawyer Peas of inflating those legal fees, and in doing so completely justifies, albeit unintentionally, the Estate action of not paying those inflated fees in the first place.

It's also interesting that she openly accuses the court of bias because the court allegedly never gave her sufficient time to prepare her case. what a bunch of nonsense! i guess when she loses this appeal she will make the same accusations against the appeal court and her current lawyer.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

I don't understand the estate wanting to revive the charity with Millissa as a chair. Who is going to trust this charity now. It seems the settlement was in her favor since she got money and her attorney's were supposed to be paid by the estate. Could it be that a lot of these settlements the estate was engaged in was handled in this manner--Michael's money given to crooks & their attorneys, to make them go away. Is this what is going to happen with Thome?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Wasn't Pease guaranteed of payment in any cases. Does it matter whether the bills are paid by the Estate or Howard Mann himself?

Apparently it does matter who's paying the bills. With some nomark businessman a lawyer can charge 10s of $thousands, when mj enters the equation a lawyer can suddenly find all sorts of extras and charge 100s of $thousands. Maybe i'm not understanding this story, but it just seems as if pease got too greedy and estate refused to pay. So if pease had just kept his expenses to the original amount this whole affair could have been settled in 2011? If there was fraud it would doubtless have been between pease and mann deciding to inflate fees to get a lump sum from the estate, to suggest the estate 'bribed' pease with money they've actually refused to hand over isn't the most convincing argument i've heard.
 
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Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

short update

MJ Estate asked for a 30 day extension. As it was their first extension request and as HTWF did not object, it was granted. Estate's answer brief is due April 26.

Optional reply is due in 14 days. (May 10 with no delays)
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Oh oh, so now the estate is in the extension game too. I guess they have so many trials going on right now that they needed some time to get things together?
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Oh oh, so now the estate is in the extension game too. I guess they have so many trials going on right now that they needed some time to get things together?

Yeh that is possibly what they are doing
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

So now all we can do is wait and see what will happen until the date above? hmm
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Hopefully the Estate has filed its reply brief. This case needs closure already.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Yes they did but it's sealed. so I can't report on it.

Remaining timeline is as follows:

14 days for optional reply by HTWF.

The court can set up oral arguments.

We are looking at 90 days for a decision either after the optional HTWF reply or after oral arguments - if court sets one.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Great. As long as the Estate has responded it's fine. At least things are moving.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Hopefully this woman can continue to pay her lawyer so that this case does not get delayed again.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

Wonderers wondering whether her madness has replied to the Estate response.
 
Re: MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF filing Appeal

No, they asked for a 90 day extension, Estate was willing to agree to a 45 day extension. No ruling by the court yet but it's safe to assume that they would get at least 45 day extension.
 
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