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any idea what is she complaining now? and can she send pms?

I have pictures of Neverland Gates, how do I prove I was the one taking them though? And I haven´t taken any photos at concerts.
And I´ve been off thse board for some time and notcied a moderator have to check my messages before they are posted.. huh? How can it be like that when other people can attack family members and even Michael´s children and derail thread with nonsens (like the BAD25 thread)? And my pics I want to post have to be checked.. I wanted to inform yesterday in one of the pic threads that he got a shirt from Michael Lee Bush, was that wrong? Jee. If it´s gonna take over 24 hours before my posts show I would like you to delete this account and I will leave this board, it only brings bully feelings when being like this.
I really felt welcomed here in 2010, now it´s just wrong. And some fans seem to only want their truth and no matter what you say or what proof you give they still tells you you lie. So what is the point of me posting the one pic I have with Michael and me in it? So fans can steal it and photoshop me away? *sigh*
 
Re: moodyblue

What is she talking out? It seems like a very incomplete thought.
 
Re: moodyblue

It seems she's mad becuase her picture posts in mod que about Michael's shirt wasnt approved in a timily manner .. I went in late last night and approved several posts including hers. she wasnt singled, No one is bullying her by holding back her posts. I dont know if other mods are checking out mod que daily to approve or not.

we disabled her PM abilities when we first had probs instead of bannign her. We put her in mod que when she returned to complain publically about our moderation and was posting about MJ secret GF again in the "Did Mj find love in the dark thread" causing a rift in there

Did she Pm you .. Where did this come from ???

The rest i dont know what she is going on about. she sounds like she is replying to someone ??She wants to prove she knows MJ with a pic ??? no one said she never met MJ .. its just questionable to what extent she actually knew him. She seems to know everything about him and doesnt give a source as if she was always there at all times even at TII ? She is upset beacuse we dont allow her truth ?? she can post what she wants and is not censored as long as it isnt about the secret GF she was luring memebers to.

maybe we should oblige her request
 
She was put in mod que Last month after this stunt in the "Did Mj find love in the dark thread" when her and claudiadoina went in to tell them they know his real GF and refute their fantasy .. She stirred up a hornets nest in there and I deleted both hers and claudiadoina post -

She was told not to go there anymore on this board when we first took her PMs away instead of banning her
She cant be trutsed not to keep goign there and so by her own actions she is now placed in mod que.


http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ued)/page792?p=3611719&highlight=#post3611719

This is the truth she is complainign about that we wont allow her to spread on the board.

You all have the right to have this thread and talk about this subject, and I have no right to talk you down for doing it. And it goes the other way too. As soon as someone says something they have fact about no one believes them, only if it fits there own thoughts. I was contacet by a memebr who seemed to spend a lot of time in this thread. We talked some and I gave away more info then I should have done. That person got this Lady (oh yes, she is a Lady, trust me) to make an account on this board and have a look in this thread, nothing good came out it though. I´m the one who got PM´s from staff about being concerned about me and what I´m up too. I´m up to nothing. I sent a few (4) from this board to that person on facebook, only because of their concern about the children. 2 of them are still talking to her. One reason is because of the trust that have been built up.


Now.. this Lady, because she is one. She is the most humble female I have ever met, she doesn´t say much at all, until you get to know her. And she is so nice and kind. Last time I met her was last summer and we met at FL since she was going there in the early mornings before opening hours. Even if we hadn´t not bought the flowers and
teddy Bears at the flower shop she took it inside for us. :wub: . She has grace and she can also be a tomboy. I have seen her fooling around at Neverland and I´ve seen her in other elements. All the time I didn´t know what was the deal between those two. I had only seen one thing that pointed in one direction, but I didn´t know at all. I do know now though. And not because of her talking, because she doesn´t. So I don´t know where you get that from.

She is not sitting behind her computer talking and telling things on facebook for all to see. She is silent. However, after PM´s of hers ending up on a tumblr because of an hacked account it was clear what this woman is about. Her private notes to a best friend came out and a few managed to read it before it was taken down and people got charged (or one person). And what she and her best friend talked about is very revealing, this woman is bleeding and the sorrow is more than one can take I think. It´s for real. And this is convos from 2 people who also see each other in real life. Not only a online friendship (which I think you can have though).

I don´t like that you judge her without talking to her. She must have the right to share her memories if that keeps her alive, don´t you think? She´s been quiet for so many years, having only 2 or 3 people to talk to about her partner, all who were his close friends. He turned himself inside out to keep her away from the public, I saw signs of this, but I only know now, I didn´t back then. It´s not like she is hanging him out in the press or writing a book. She share with 3 people, and she share what she thinks is okay to share. And only after being asked, she has never claimed anything and she still don´t. Maybe you think that talking to 3 people is claiming, and if you do I accept it.
I´m only rambling here no, sorry about that.

It´s just that some (not me), thought you would be happy knowing there was someone who loved him more than life. That was wrong though. And you are more than allowed to continue with your thoughts in here. Just don´t jump on those who try to tell you something. Not all people lies. And if you knew the whole picture you would understand, but you don´t and most doesn´t want too, but judge anyway. Please don´t judge. Just continue in here and stop talking about this woman. She is in more pain then I can grasp I think. She knows how hated she would be and already are among a few. But she shouldn´t have to deal with more. So lets just leave it and we (who think this is so lovable) continue with ours and you with yours.
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Re: moodyblue

yeah it's a pm to me and I thought she couldn't pm anyone

so she's complaining about being on mod que and also referring to me asking her to prove her knowing Michael.
 
Re: moodyblue

Well why dont we give her what she is requesting ? She is making it easy for us
Im tired of dealing with her. That's why I placed her in mod que

Ill do the honors quietly if no one objects. I dont think anyone is going to miss her.
except maybe Claudinia her partner in crime.

or you or I can PM her and explain about what happened in mod que and the reason she is in mod que
If you want to discuss with her just let her know that no ones post that day were approved untill late and no one was singling her out or bullying her. Tell her the reason she is in mod que is becuase of the post she made in "Did MJ find love in the dark" after we asked her to not longer bring that to the board. Tell her we no longer want or are requesting proof from her. Thas was over a year ago. We made a decision then and proof that she knew MJ or met him isnt going to change it. We already told her we believe she met him or worked with him at one time. That wasnt or isnt the problem.

If we dont ban her we shoudl still revoke her PM privedges again. I think I may have opened it to contact her about her last episode and never closed it again.

I think Gaz should remove the mods from being attched to the contacts in PM privleges
so that we have only PM to mods allowed/ so we always have contact.

By the way where is GAZ I havent heard a peep from him :( for quite a few days
 
Re: moodyblue

Have you replied Ivy?
I can't believe she is complaining about this when it only happens ones. But I have to say you can't put someone in mod que forever. She has been there for a month already.

About the approving posts I check it a few times a day (except yesterday) but most of the time there are no posts.
 
Re: moodyblue

my response

you were put on mod que after you publicly questioned the moderation decisions and started talking about the alleged girlfriend publicly on "did mj found love in the dark" thread. As you know I explained you the concerns and we can't allow this either because it might be a fantasy or if real it's invading people's privacy.

We are open to anyone but you also need to understand the concerns and our position to find the middle ground.

sorry but you haven't given me a single proof to believe you, to the contrary you avoided any and all requests. I also never asked you to post your picture publicly.

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her response

Questioned the moderation?? The post in in the "did mj found love in the dark" thread was a rant and after being sent PM's on Facebook. After a few hours I regret it and wanted to delete it but the it was already gone, sorry about that. Everything about the girlfriend have now been sorted out. And those girls who is happy about it are having a nice time and I've been left alone. And now I just wanted to have a good time again and I've been keeping quiet since I learned to not care.

I know you didn't asked me to post pictures in the open, but you want me to trust you not to spread them? Or it, since it's only one. You don't seem to understand what this was all about. I'm not a Michael Jackson fan, it was first after he visited the shelter I got to know more about him. I had only been to concerts, like I had been to many artists but still not being a fan. I had no desire to run around asking him for pics and taking his signature, that is very unprofessional when the man has big concerns over the animals and want to help. And getting the privilege to spend time in his present in private? You just don't treat him like a artist then, he's just a man.
Only proof I can give you is the shelter and the people there, you are more than welcome to send anyone there to have a look around, but they won't show how much he donated, but pic with him and three big dogs and staff is a treasure for them. I quit my work there a few years ago though, but the pic is taken in 2000.


As I was writing this rant I remembered I said something in my post about moderation, and I'm sorry about that. I was upset and on a rant.
My intention is not to hurt anyone and has never been, I came to this board in the hope to get some comfort from fans. I had no idea how passionate Michael fans can be, it scared me and I kept my mouth shut for long about what I am, I just wanted to be one in the group and was until I opened my mouth. But now everything is good and wonderful and I have a few friends that are fans and they come from here.

You don't want me to talk about the girlfriend and I won't. It's okay to talk about it in books, everyone choose to believe or not and asks for no proof. The proof I can give you is her, but you don't want that. This is not about me anymore. I told my story and gave proof to a web site called reflection of the dance or something, to Deborah. Going through her website and seeing how she have built it up I trusted her, and so far it's been okay.

I won't bother you anymore. Thank you for this board being here when needed, now I'll keep to those friends I got here on fb instead.

Adriana.

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my response

This is about you. To be bluntly honest, it's hard to believe anything you say. So okay Michael had donated to your charity - he had donated to a lot of charities - and you have become friends. You are suddenly everywhere. You were there when the bridge accident happened, you are there when he badmouths Frank Cascio, you know the elusive secret girlfriend. but yet you aren't that close to him as well as living in UK and calling him as well. How convenient that you are always there when an important thing happens.

But being close to michael for at least 10 years, you have nothing that you can actually show that you were there. Not a ticket stub from the concerts, not a unseen concert photo. apparently there's only one picture but you won't show it. Well it makes it hard to believe do you see?

The things about the girlfriend doesn't also make sense. You say she wants to stay private but yet you select people from this board and then invite them to meet her. Why? She was trying to stay private. Why are you so special that you have the power to select the people that will meet the girlfriend? Then we take your PM abilities and then you in public on the "love in the dark" thread you tell everyone about the girlfriend. What happened to the she wants to stay private? Care to explain this inconsistency? And if real why Michael's girlfriend is talking to random fans referred to her by you?

Give me the girlfriend as proof, okay fine. I'm on FB as Ivy MJJC but I want to see pictures as well. You know why that's needed? Because there's a girl from Brazil who says she was special in Michael's life and knew her for decades. She does claim to be "special" in his life for decades - meaning his girlfriend. There's another fan who claims to have sexual relationships with Michael. She also has a private profile on FB on which she talks with selected people about all she knows about Michael.

So what I'm saying I already know 2 woman who claim to be special in Michael's life and be his girlfriend or sex buddy and tells their stories to their selected private groups. Your friend is the third one. So excuse me if I don't take scenarios as facts. I need indisputable hard proof to believe it. Because unfortunately there are people who act like Michael's girlfriend and fool unsuspecting naive fans. It's as simple as that.
 
Re: moodyblue

^^ looks like she was bragging and throwing in your face that she contacted fans from this board to join her Secret MJ GF club on FB .. Interesting - She says Reflections of the dance website is supporing her in this matter? :blink: Im interested in what she will reply to your last message ?
 
Re: moodyblue

Angela_MJJ said:
Have you replied Ivy?
I can't believe she is complaining about this when it only happens ones. But I have to say you can't put someone in mod que forever. She has been there for a month already.

About the approving posts I check it a few times a day (except yesterday) but most of the time there are no posts.
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Angela do you have any contact with her outside this board or by PM. cant you provide further info pro or con ? Thanks
 
Re: moodyblue

Just tell them to **** off, were all volunteers and were not here to babysit each and every member.

When they become a customer when they pay for a service then we can jump until then they can take one.

Damn sick of all hate when there isn't even any reason for it and were totally innocent.

In fact I might just go and ban the moron, I mean who they hell do they think they are, they have probably not even contributed to this community.

Where the hell do they get of thinking this place is some sort of right and we are all slaves to be at their beck and call and if we dont they tell lies stir up shit and hate on us.
 
Re: moodyblue

Well if we are not going to ban her- Im going to go ahead and take her out of mod que
but Im going to keep her Pm's disabled. She is able to contact mods and contacts
but She cant add friends or contacts anyway so that will keep her from luring members
from this board by using our system to do it.

Ivy are you still in a discussion with her has she replied d back.
Do want to PM her to let her know ? or I will if you had enough of her.
 
Re: moodyblue

she hasn't replied to my last pm
 
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